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Doug Bennett · March 2nd, 2006, 03:52 PM

seems to me there is a hole in the canon lineup that could be met by a 5-6K hdv cam without some of the broadcast features. Any comments?

Bob Grant · March 2nd, 2006, 04:06 PM

Once you've spent the dollars on the engineering and tooling costs there's not much to be saved bypulling bits off, if anything your costs might go up.
Sony do this with the Z1 and FX1 but they're built by different divisions.
With the XL H1 how much do you think removing two BNC sockets and half an I.C. is going to save? $5 maybe. How much is the cost of new drawings, parts lists and storage space going to add? $10.

Jonas Nystrom · March 2nd, 2006, 06:04 PM

I think, if Canon will launch a new HDV cam it will be in the XM-series (or GL-series in the States) - a XM/GL3 with HDV! I really (rather) hope that Canon will give us some new lenses for the H1.

Chris Hurd · March 4th, 2006, 11:35 AM

Keep in mind that Canon Video has never introduced a new camcorder at NAB. That's not their show. They always take a back seat to Canon Broadcast at NAB. I would be very surprised if Canon Video broke from tradition and announced a new camcorder at NAB. That's never happened before, and the recent past is always a very good guage of the near future.

Doug Bennett · March 8th, 2006, 10:02 AM

Seems like a longshot I guess. I hate to leave Canon XL after owning 3 but the 10K price tag is too rich for my blood.

Zack Birlew · March 8th, 2006, 01:37 PM

It'd be neat if they came out with an even HIGHER-end XL-type camera that uses a new lense mount. But then we're going into Area 51 territory. But seriously, I wouldn't count on any new cameras at NAB, unless they want to show lenses or something.

I don't know, does Canon announce lenses at least at NAB?

Bob Zimmerman · March 8th, 2006, 02:26 PM

Can you get free stuff at NAB? Magnets, pens, rulers?

Pete Tomov · March 8th, 2006, 02:30 PM

How about an XL H2!!!
Following xl2 tradition - progressive ccds, better low light, less noise, less CA(with the new lens), 60p recording(this one's not exactly and xl2 feature), much higher latitude and...and...well then I wake up with my foot in the fish tank.
...and don't even have fish.

Tony Davies-Patrick · March 8th, 2006, 02:50 PM

I think that Canon should make some new lenses to fit the H1 (especially wide angle) before thinking of uprating or down-grading the original body.

Zack Birlew · March 8th, 2006, 02:50 PM

Yeah, you can get some free stationary at some booths, I don't remember if Canon had stuff at their booths last year. I know they sure as pancakes had brochures left and right though! =)

Robert Sanders · March 8th, 2006, 06:30 PM

An HD 3X Lens for me please!

Jean-Philippe Archibald · March 8th, 2006, 08:05 PM

At least, if Canon doesnt plan to release new HD lenses, they should release a firmware update to let us use the SD lenses without the 10 second warning...

Bob Zimmerman · March 9th, 2006, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Felis

Yeah, you can get some free stationary at some booths, I don't remember if Canon had stuff at their booths last year. I know they sure as pancakes had brochures left and right though! =)

Canon might as well be handing out pencils since they won't have anything else to show people.

Chris Hurd · March 9th, 2006, 07:52 AM

The broadcast division usually has new lenses to show at NAB. It's their biggest event of the year.

Bob Zimmerman · March 9th, 2006, 10:36 AM

Chris I read somewhere that Goodmorning America uses Sony Z1's for there show. Maybe Canon broadcasting will come out with something (GL3 maybe) to try and compete! Just a thought.

But your probably right they won't.

March 2nd, 2006, 03:52 PM	#1
Doug Bennett Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 260	NAB - new XL? seems to me there is a hole in the canon lineup that could be met by a 5-6K hdv cam without some of the broadcast features. Any comments?

March 2nd, 2006, 06:04 PM	#3
Jonas Nystrom Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Göteborg, Sweden Posts: 306	Xm3 Hdv I think, if Canon will launch a new HDV cam it will be in the XM-series (or GL-series in the States) - a XM/GL3 with HDV! I really (rather) hope that Canon will give us some new lenses for the H1. __________________ Jonas Nyström, DoP :: HOT SHOT® SWEDEN :: www.hotshot.nu :: RED #1567, RED 18-50mm T3 :: XL A1, Letus Extreme :: XL H1, 20X & 6X lens (for sale) :: www.vimeo.com/nystrom Last edited by Jonas Nystrom; March 3rd, 2006 at 02:41 AM.

March 4th, 2006, 11:35 AM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Keep in mind that Canon Video has never introduced a new camcorder at NAB. That's not their show. They always take a back seat to Canon Broadcast at NAB. I would be very surprised if Canon Video broke from tradition and announced a new camcorder at NAB. That's never happened before, and the recent past is always a very good guage of the near future. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 8th, 2006, 01:37 PM	#6
Zack Birlew Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 613	It'd be neat if they came out with an even HIGHER-end XL-type camera that uses a new lense mount. But then we're going into Area 51 territory. But seriously, I wouldn't count on any new cameras at NAB, unless they want to show lenses or something. I don't know, does Canon announce lenses at least at NAB? __________________ "Babs Do or Babs Do not, there is no try." - Zack Birlew www.BabsDoProductions.com

March 8th, 2006, 02:50 PM	#9
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	I think that Canon should make some new lenses to fit the H1 (especially wide angle) before thinking of uprating or down-grading the original body. __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

March 2nd, 2006, 04:06 PM	#2
Bob Grant Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,570	Once you've spent the dollars on the engineering and tooling costs there's not much to be saved bypulling bits off, if anything your costs might go up. Sony do this with the Z1 and FX1 but they're built by different divisions. With the XL H1 how much do you think removing two BNC sockets and half an I.C. is going to save? $5 maybe. How much is the cost of new drawings, parts lists and storage space going to add? $10.

March 8th, 2006, 10:02 AM	#5
Doug Bennett Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 260	Seems like a longshot I guess. I hate to leave Canon XL after owning 3 but the 10K price tag is too rich for my blood.

March 8th, 2006, 02:26 PM	#7
Bob Zimmerman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 888	Can you get free stuff at NAB? Magnets, pens, rulers?

March 8th, 2006, 02:30 PM	#8
Pete Tomov Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 106	How about an XL H2!!! Following xl2 tradition - progressive ccds, better low light, less noise, less CA(with the new lens), 60p recording(this one's not exactly and xl2 feature), much higher latitude and...and...well then I wake up with my foot in the fish tank. ...and don't even have fish.

March 8th, 2006, 06:30 PM	#11
Robert Sanders Starway Pictures Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Studio City Posts: 581	An HD 3X Lens for me please! __________________ http://www.starwaypictures.com http://starwaypictures.blogspot.com/

March 8th, 2006, 08:05 PM	#12
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	At least, if Canon doesnt plan to release new HD lenses, they should release a firmware update to let us use the SD lenses without the 10 second warning... __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

March 9th, 2006, 07:52 AM	#14
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	The broadcast division usually has new lenses to show at NAB. It's their biggest event of the year. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 9th, 2006, 10:36 AM	#15
Bob Zimmerman Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Illinois Posts: 888	Chris I read somewhere that Goodmorning America uses Sony Z1's for there show. Maybe Canon broadcasting will come out with something (GL3 maybe) to try and compete! Just a thought. But your probably right they won't.