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Hollywood is soo shallow!
How to get the shallow Depth of Field with XL H1? Yeah, I know the expensive and great PS Mini35? But have anyone some other suggestions? Have anyone tried Cinemeks G35 or Micro35? Or any other primes? Thankful for any ideas!
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Jonas: please do a search on the forum here. There are probably hundreds of
threads on this topic in the film look forum and Alternative Imaging Methods forum (to build a 35mm adapter yourself). Since you posted this question in the XL H1 forum I'm assuming you want one for that camera? As far as I know there is no other adapter for that camera other than the mini35.
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Well, I haven't tested anything other than the mini35(and I really don't like it)but from what I've seen my money are on the G35.I'm buying one as soon as...they start selling them.
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"How to get the shallow Depth of Field with XL H1?"
Yes, for my XL H1! So is there any other way to get it? In fact it seems, to go over the sea for water, to use any 3:rd party adapter! Why project the image (as in Mini35) and then "do the filming"! Strange! Isn't there any Hi-tech new HD lens with a shallow depth algoritm?
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I think it's all about the size of the CCD's, which is very small on the H1 and every other 1/3" camcorder. To get into the nuts and bolts, read Jeff Donald's "Ultimate Depth-of-field Skinny" in the DVinfo articles section:
http://dvinfo.net/articles/optics/dofskinny.php |
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That's not possible Jonas. Please read up on depth of field. Any (current) (H)DV
camera out on the market has way too small sensor to get a shallow DoF. That's why the adapters exist. They "convert" a 35mm image to something your camera can handle while retaining the characteristics you want. See our detailed article on this matter: http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/optics/dofskinny.php Edit: Boyd and myself roughly posted at the same time. But that goes to show what you need to read :)
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OK your right!
I red it - you need the adapter or a good Art Director to put out excess information! Or maybe I can try a Tilt & Shift SLR lens - anyone tried?
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