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Bruce Meyers · January 6th, 2006, 02:47 AM

http://imagecloset.com/view.php?im=h...%20GRADING.jpg

This is a color graded photo captured from the XL H1, as many of you know. The question is how was this grading done? What steps were taking, I don't see a lot of discussion about color grading going on. Congrats to the artist behind this, perhaps he'd be willing to share his technique? Just fantastic work. I've tried manipulating the photo in photoshop but have failed to render the results seen here. It's amazing how much room there is for color correction with this camera.

Ashley Hosking · January 6th, 2006, 04:07 AM

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Looking forward to seeing the image when it lets me *smile*

Walter Graff · January 8th, 2006, 08:46 PM

Bruce, I get yelled at every time I say this but tools are just that. It's the artist that makes them work. That means experience. It's not easy to sit down and try it with little experience at it. Obviously this fellow has a bit of experience with his editing sorfware. I took the picture and graded it myself using Photoshop and think I made a similar picture as the original person did. But here is where taste came in. I did not like that he lost some of the brown in her eyes and mad the blacks slightly dark so I made her ever so brightly lighter overall. The answer is practice. I did this in about two minutes just make it close to his. I'd say start by practicing. After a while it becomes easier to see what needs to be done.

His two on top mine labeled Walter on the bottom.

http://www.bluesky-web.com/waltergrade.jpg

Vince Gaffney · January 8th, 2006, 08:58 PM

barlow elton posted that and i believe commented that it was a quick test - not a true color correction.

i opened some of the footage (that people have been so generously posting) in combustion 4 and fooled with the color. it seems to have a great deal of information and holds up nicely no matter how hard i beat on it and stretched it. the potential of this camera keeps looking better to me all the time.

vince

Matthew Greene · January 8th, 2006, 09:08 PM

That's a pretty basic primary RGB color correction, in Photoshop you can do the full adjustment with the curves editor alone. Go in adjust the RGB curve so the blacks are richer and the gamma lower. Then adjust the R curve to peak slightly in the midtones (make the image warmer) and the B curve to take the blue cast off. Walter is right, being a good colorist or color grader takes a practice, good eye and artistry.

Walter, are you on a Mac or PC? I'm asking because gamma on Macs is 1.8 and it's 2.2 on PCs, Your image looks better on a 1.8 gamma and the original at 2.2. The midtones seem a bit high on your correction at 2.2 gamma. I have my displays set to L gamma but I switched back and forth.

Walter Graff · January 9th, 2006, 11:11 PM

"Walter, are you on a Mac or PC? I'm asking because gamma on Macs is 1.8 and it's 2.2 on PCs, Your image looks better on a 1.8 gamma and the original at 2.2. The midtones seem a bit high on your correction at 2.2 gamma. I have my displays set to L gamma but I switched back and forth."

THe computer I did it on is set at 2.2

Matthew Greene · January 9th, 2006, 11:18 PM

Ok, just curious.

January 6th, 2006, 02:47 AM	#1
Bruce Meyers Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Maldives Posts: 97	How was THIS done? http://imagecloset.com/view.php?im=h...%20GRADING.jpg This is a color graded photo captured from the XL H1, as many of you know. The question is how was this grading done? What steps were taking, I don't see a lot of discussion about color grading going on. Congrats to the artist behind this, perhaps he'd be willing to share his technique? Just fantastic work. I've tried manipulating the photo in photoshop but have failed to render the results seen here. It's amazing how much room there is for color correction with this camera.

January 6th, 2006, 04:07 AM	#2
Ashley Hosking Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 77	"Forbidden You don't have permission to access /view.php on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request." Looking forward to seeing the image when it lets me smile

January 8th, 2006, 08:46 PM	#3
Walter Graff Hellgate Pictures, Inc. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 124	Bruce, I get yelled at every time I say this but tools are just that. It's the artist that makes them work. That means experience. It's not easy to sit down and try it with little experience at it. Obviously this fellow has a bit of experience with his editing sorfware. I took the picture and graded it myself using Photoshop and think I made a similar picture as the original person did. But here is where taste came in. I did not like that he lost some of the brown in her eyes and mad the blacks slightly dark so I made her ever so brightly lighter overall. The answer is practice. I did this in about two minutes just make it close to his. I'd say start by practicing. After a while it becomes easier to see what needs to be done. His two on top mine labeled Walter on the bottom. http://www.bluesky-web.com/waltergrade.jpg

January 8th, 2006, 08:58 PM	#4
Vince Gaffney Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 146	barlow elton posted that and i believe commented that it was a quick test - not a true color correction. i opened some of the footage (that people have been so generously posting) in combustion 4 and fooled with the color. it seems to have a great deal of information and holds up nicely no matter how hard i beat on it and stretched it. the potential of this camera keeps looking better to me all the time. vince

January 8th, 2006, 09:08 PM	#5
Matthew Greene Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV / Branson, MO Posts: 63	That's a pretty basic primary RGB color correction, in Photoshop you can do the full adjustment with the curves editor alone. Go in adjust the RGB curve so the blacks are richer and the gamma lower. Then adjust the R curve to peak slightly in the midtones (make the image warmer) and the B curve to take the blue cast off. Walter is right, being a good colorist or color grader takes a practice, good eye and artistry. Walter, are you on a Mac or PC? I'm asking because gamma on Macs is 1.8 and it's 2.2 on PCs, Your image looks better on a 1.8 gamma and the original at 2.2. The midtones seem a bit high on your correction at 2.2 gamma. I have my displays set to L gamma but I switched back and forth.

January 9th, 2006, 11:11 PM	#6
Walter Graff Hellgate Pictures, Inc. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 124	"Walter, are you on a Mac or PC? I'm asking because gamma on Macs is 1.8 and it's 2.2 on PCs, Your image looks better on a 1.8 gamma and the original at 2.2. The midtones seem a bit high on your correction at 2.2 gamma. I have my displays set to L gamma but I switched back and forth." THe computer I did it on is set at 2.2

January 9th, 2006, 11:18 PM	#7
Matthew Greene Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV / Branson, MO Posts: 63	Ok, just curious.