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Kevin Wild · December 5th, 2005, 02:43 PM

Anxiously awaiting your reviews and especially some more clips.

KW

Chris Hurd · December 5th, 2005, 02:59 PM

Give him some time to unpack the dang thing!

Kevin Wild · December 5th, 2005, 03:03 PM

Must...see...clips......soon. (Shatner is hard to represent via text.)

KW

Pete Bauer · December 5th, 2005, 04:05 PM

Yup, got it. NO promises, but I'll try to post a little something by bedtime tonight -- some initial impressions, a few stills, and maybe a clip or two. I DO promise that I'll do so as soon as I'm able, though.

Will Murphy · December 5th, 2005, 04:46 PM

I would have gone with something like "Must see . . . clips . . . . . soon!" with an emphatic yet meaningless gesture on the "soon". The pauses need to be a bit varied as to how many syllables are in between them and how long they are.

Live long and prosper.

Boyd Ostroff · December 5th, 2005, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Wild

Shatner is hard to represent via text.

Maybe this would be a better approach? http://www.theta-g.com/rec/shatner/

James Llewellyn · December 5th, 2005, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Wild

Must...see...clips......soon. (Shatner is hard to represent via text.)

KW

You should try representing Christopher Walken in text. That's always a hoot.

Pete Bauer · December 6th, 2005, 12:18 AM

Ok, you goofy geekoids. I dashed off a couple of brief paragraphs and a few photos and frame grabs on my web site:

http://www.geosynchrony.com/scratchpad.htm

Will try to get whatever Chris wants moved to the DVinfo gallery tomorrow.

I know it ain't much info yet. Probably the big news for me is that a rough hack on this quick motionless rez test makes me think that 24F is about halfway between 1-field interpolation and true progressive resolution. Not bad, but not quite full 1080p rez, either. Lots left to look at with this cam...familiar, yet definitely a step up from the XL2.

More to follow in a day or two.

Jon Bickford · December 6th, 2005, 01:41 AM

I got to fiddle with one for awhile today, no recording though,

the focus and zoom rings definetely feel better, don't know how to describe it but they just do. the viewfinder is quite nice and the evf zoom feature is great, still doesn't show the entire frame. it's a lot heavier than an XL2 but it feels like the weight has been shifted back some and the camera is a little bit better balanced. the zoom takes off smoother when you use the rocker than it does with an XL2. there's a 3rd record button on the back of the ear that has aperture and shutter controls near the lens, other than that it was pretty much what i expected, i can't comment on HDV because i didn't record any.

now how to find 9 grand...

Per Johan Naesje · December 6th, 2005, 02:06 AM

Pete, could you tell us any thing about the size compared to the XL-2?

I'm curious if the XLH1 could use the same rainslicker, bags etc.

- Per Johan

Chris Hurd · December 6th, 2005, 06:55 AM

Per, the XL H1 and XL2 share the exact same body chassis, and the lens dimensions are identical as well. So the overall measurements are the same between the two, and anything that fits the XL2 will also fit the XL H1.

The XL H1 is a bit heavier than the XL2. The EVF is just slightly wider, and the mic mount is a little taller. Those are the only external differences I can think of.

Pete Tomov · December 6th, 2005, 07:21 AM

The redish tint reminds me of the xl1.Did you use custom settings?
Also,can you switch between NTSC and PAL or do you have to send it back to Canon for that?

P.S.
...damn, i just lost another 9 grant.

Chris Hurd · December 6th, 2005, 07:30 AM

He'll have to send it back to Canon to get the 50i/60i switchability.

Pete Tomov · December 6th, 2005, 07:44 AM

But will the 25p look like the 30p or the 24f?
I actually need PAL but if i'm going to get the same image i'd rather shoot in 24f.

Greg Boston · December 6th, 2005, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Per Johan

Pete, could you tell us any thing about the size compared to the XL-2?

I'm curious if the XLH1 could use the same rainslicker, bags etc.

- Per Johan

The H1 is the same size. It's the XL-2 chassis modified slightly as to control placement but still the same. And most importantly, they painted it all black this time. :-)

Also of note, the H1 has returned to the wheel for iris step instead of the toggle that debuted on the XL-2.

-gb-

December 5th, 2005, 02:43 PM	#1
Kevin Wild Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 540	Pete-Did you get it yet? Anxiously awaiting your reviews and especially some more clips. KW

December 5th, 2005, 02:59 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Give him some time to unpack the dang thing! __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

December 5th, 2005, 04:05 PM	#4
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Yup, got it. NO promises, but I'll try to post a little something by bedtime tonight -- some initial impressions, a few stills, and maybe a clip or two. I DO promise that I'll do so as soon as I'm able, though. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

December 5th, 2005, 04:46 PM	#5
Will Murphy Tourist Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3	Shatner I would have gone with something like "Must see . . . clips . . . . . soon!" with an emphatic yet meaningless gesture on the "soon". The pauses need to be a bit varied as to how many syllables are in between them and how long they are. Live long and prosper.

December 6th, 2005, 12:18 AM	#8
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Ok, you goofy geekoids. I dashed off a couple of brief paragraphs and a few photos and frame grabs on my web site: http://www.geosynchrony.com/scratchpad.htm Will try to get whatever Chris wants moved to the DVinfo gallery tomorrow. I know it ain't much info yet. Probably the big news for me is that a rough hack on this quick motionless rez test makes me think that 24F is about halfway between 1-field interpolation and true progressive resolution. Not bad, but not quite full 1080p rez, either. Lots left to look at with this cam...familiar, yet definitely a step up from the XL2. More to follow in a day or two. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

December 5th, 2005, 03:03 PM	#3
Kevin Wild Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 540	Must...see...clips......soon. (Shatner is hard to represent via text.) KW

December 6th, 2005, 01:41 AM	#9
Jon Bickford Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV., Los Angeles, CA, Posts: 220	I got to fiddle with one for awhile today, no recording though, the focus and zoom rings definetely feel better, don't know how to describe it but they just do. the viewfinder is quite nice and the evf zoom feature is great, still doesn't show the entire frame. it's a lot heavier than an XL2 but it feels like the weight has been shifted back some and the camera is a little bit better balanced. the zoom takes off smoother when you use the rocker than it does with an XL2. there's a 3rd record button on the back of the ear that has aperture and shutter controls near the lens, other than that it was pretty much what i expected, i can't comment on HDV because i didn't record any. now how to find 9 grand... __________________ Jon Bickford, Trepany Films San Pedro, CA Trephine001@aol.com

December 6th, 2005, 02:06 AM	#10
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Size Pete, could you tell us any thing about the size compared to the XL-2? I'm curious if the XLH1 could use the same rainslicker, bags etc. - Per Johan

December 6th, 2005, 06:55 AM	#11
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Per, the XL H1 and XL2 share the exact same body chassis, and the lens dimensions are identical as well. So the overall measurements are the same between the two, and anything that fits the XL2 will also fit the XL H1. The XL H1 is a bit heavier than the XL2. The EVF is just slightly wider, and the mic mount is a little taller. Those are the only external differences I can think of. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

December 6th, 2005, 07:21 AM	#12
Pete Tomov Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 106	The redish tint reminds me of the xl1.Did you use custom settings? Also,can you switch between NTSC and PAL or do you have to send it back to Canon for that? P.S. ...damn, i just lost another 9 grant.

December 6th, 2005, 07:30 AM	#13
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	He'll have to send it back to Canon to get the 50i/60i switchability. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

December 6th, 2005, 07:44 AM	#14
Pete Tomov Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 106	But will the 25p look like the 30p or the 24f? I actually need PAL but if i'm going to get the same image i'd rather shoot in 24f.