True Manual Lens ???

Chris Hurd · October 26th, 2005, 02:27 PM

Thanks for the comments, Mark, much appreciated!

For Bill, yes, sadly it is an Annoying Little Knob.

Ash Greyson · October 26th, 2005, 03:19 PM

The 20X lens does not suck... it requires a bit of song and dance to master but the glass is great and the controls are manageable. The only thing I cannot do on the OIS lens that I can with the manual lens is a snap zoom. I can rack on the fly, anything really. The key is mastering the "feel" of the electronic control. Move the ring fast, it racks faster, move it slow, it racks slower. Untraditional in that the distance you move it is not as important as the speed.

Even with the manual lens, I never mark anything, I still go by feel but that is a result of over 5000 hours of shooting DV!

ash =o)

Tony Davies-Patrick · October 27th, 2005, 04:52 AM

Chris, a pro section would of great interest.

Aaron Frick · October 27th, 2005, 09:39 AM

Chris...I would also very much be interested in seeing more pro products covered here. You done great job with the prosumer info and I really think a lot of the people here have one foot in pro and one in prosumer.

Jim Giberti · October 27th, 2005, 03:46 PM

I think it could be a great idea as well.

Jipsi Kinnear · October 28th, 2005, 06:58 PM

A Pro section would rock and would be very much appreciated. You got my vote Chris.

Steve Gibby · October 29th, 2005, 10:11 AM

With media convergence, the economics of the marketplace require boutique production houses to be able to produce projects in any format a particular project calls for. Usually that entails owning a limited range of "prosumer" equipment, and simply having a rental account to temporarily access the high end equipment you need. The versatility to work in any format and with any type of video equipment simply enhances your bank account. If a project budget and "look and feel" determine a "prosumer" format and camera - that's what I use. Conversely, if a project budget and "look and feel" call for a highend format and equipment, that's what I use. It's harder to make your business flourish if you are a format and/or equipment "specialist". I regularly work with every video format and level of equipment. One day an F900, the next an XL2 or DVX100A. Right now I have to leave DV Info Net to access tech forums on high end video equipment. Chris, I think it would be awesome if you expanded to include some high end forums!

October 26th, 2005, 02:27 PM	#16
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Thanks for the comments, Mark, much appreciated! For Bill, yes, sadly it is an Annoying Little Knob. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 27th, 2005, 04:52 AM	#18
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	Chris, a pro section would of great interest. __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

October 27th, 2005, 09:39 AM	#19
Aaron Frick Contributor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: New Mexico Posts: 71	Chris...I would also very much be interested in seeing more pro products covered here. You done great job with the prosumer info and I really think a lot of the people here have one foot in pro and one in prosumer. __________________ Land of Enchantment, New Mexico

October 29th, 2005, 10:11 AM	#22
Steve Gibby Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Southwest Utah & worldwide Posts: 398	With media convergence, the economics of the marketplace require boutique production houses to be able to produce projects in any format a particular project calls for. Usually that entails owning a limited range of "prosumer" equipment, and simply having a rental account to temporarily access the high end equipment you need. The versatility to work in any format and with any type of video equipment simply enhances your bank account. If a project budget and "look and feel" determine a "prosumer" format and camera - that's what I use. Conversely, if a project budget and "look and feel" call for a highend format and equipment, that's what I use. It's harder to make your business flourish if you are a format and/or equipment "specialist". I regularly work with every video format and level of equipment. One day an F900, the next an XL2 or DVX100A. Right now I have to leave DV Info Net to access tech forums on high end video equipment. Chris, I think it would be awesome if you expanded to include some high end forums! __________________ Steve Gibby, RED One SN 0008, 2 others. Epic M SN 0008, 2 others, Canon 5D. Linked In - Steve Gibby Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/stevegibby/

October 26th, 2005, 03:19 PM	#17
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	The 20X lens does not suck... it requires a bit of song and dance to master but the glass is great and the controls are manageable. The only thing I cannot do on the OIS lens that I can with the manual lens is a snap zoom. I can rack on the fly, anything really. The key is mastering the "feel" of the electronic control. Move the ring fast, it racks faster, move it slow, it racks slower. Untraditional in that the distance you move it is not as important as the speed. Even with the manual lens, I never mark anything, I still go by feel but that is a result of over 5000 hours of shooting DV! ash =o)

October 27th, 2005, 03:46 PM	#20
Jim Giberti Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bethel, VT Posts: 824	I think it could be a great idea as well.

October 28th, 2005, 06:58 PM	#21
Jipsi Kinnear Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 108	A Pro section would rock and would be very much appreciated. You got my vote Chris.