Canon XL H series -- various sample clips

Yasser Kassana · March 15th, 2006, 10:09 AM

I have already seen this but man do i love it. The second test with the man looking at the cam - evokes a great feeling, a feeling that every film maker aspires for. Clean and film like. The xl1h is seriously impressing me more and more.

Barlow Elton · March 15th, 2006, 11:20 AM

The dam of coolness from filmmakers with this camera is beginning to burst.

Thanks Robert. I REALLY look forward to your posts!!

Vincent Rozenberg · March 15th, 2006, 11:22 AM

Nice footage! Inspires me making my own time-lapses...

Any particular reason you used AE for the speed ups instead of a NLE?

Robert Sanders · March 15th, 2006, 12:56 PM

I use After Effects a lot to earn my living. So I'm really comfortable with it. Plus I like AE's frame blending. I think it does the best rendering of the bunch.

Also I prefer to color correct using curves and FCP doesn't have a native curves editor. I just started using Color Finesse which does have curves, but I think it's second nature to launch AE.

I'm looking forward to getting AE 7 and to start doing some slo-mo tests. AE 7 has that great new interpolator for blending/morphing new frames to generate really cool slo-mo effects. So I can't wait to see if it can take 60i footage and slow it down so I can get 120fps.

Barlow Elton · March 15th, 2006, 03:41 PM

Please post some slow-mo results when you can Robert. I'm very interested to figure out how good "overcrank" in 1080p might look. I've had good results going down to 720p, but I'm wanting to create 1080 "overcrank" material that will look convincingly good when intercut with 24F. Does AE 7 do good vertical interpolation of 1440x540 frames so that you could convert the interlace frames into 60fps 1080 material? If it does a reasonably good job then I'll have to get AE7 along with the ever increasing amount of stuff I want to get for my camera.

Jiri Bueller · April 4th, 2006, 06:50 AM

Hi,

I'm new to this forum, i'm new to digital filmmaking.
But i would like to share my first footage, shot with the XL-H1 with you.

http://www.hifi.nl/shows/verslag.php?s=lente2006

I hope you enjoy it and i'm open for any suggestions, esspecialy to improve the technical image quality of the movie.

Greetings,
Jiri

Ron Pfister · April 4th, 2006, 02:11 PM

Interesting stuff, Jiri! Thanks for posting it!

When watching the clip, I noticed that the location showed a variety of lightsources, often in the same scene (tungsten, FL and daylight). My impression was that the white balance was consistently good throughout the clip, and I was wondering whether you had set white balance to auto or whether you had adjusted it manually as needed.

TIA for your feedback!

Cheers,

Ron

Jiri Bueller · April 5th, 2006, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Pfister

Interesting stuff, Jiri! Thanks for posting it!

When watching the clip, I noticed that the location showed a variety of lightsources, often in the same scene (tungsten, FL and daylight). My impression was that the white balance was consistently good throughout the clip, and I was wondering whether you had set white balance to auto or whether you had adjusted it manually as needed.

TIA for your feedback!

Cheers,

Ron

There was very little time when shooting, so i only used the auto white balance.
And i did no corrections in post what soever.
What you see, is what i shot.

Greeting
Jiri

Barlow Elton · April 6th, 2006, 09:07 PM

Hey everybody,

I have some raw clips on the iDisk for whoever wants a semi-challenging chroma key test.

www.homepage.mac.com/mrbarlowelton

These clips were piped in SDI direct to FCP, bypassing HDV, and compressed in DVCProHD. One is a 24F clip converted to DV100 24P, the other is a straight 1080i. There are also a couple of uncompressed 10bit frames...one 24F and one 1080i for you guys to compare.

I didn't have time to go get a better chroma key 8x8 from the studio, so I just had my wife pick up 2 yards of chroma green looking cloth from the fabric store. It was a very dim, rainy day today and this was all natural light.

I though some of you with keying chops might be interested to take a crack at this stuff.

Please post a frame of your results if you can.

Thanks,

Barlow

Barlow Elton · April 7th, 2006, 12:30 PM

There's a clip up called "greenkidscomp1.mov" on the iDisk that someone who pulled the key contributed. It's an MPEG 4 QT file.

www.homepage.mac.com/mrbarlowelton

Steven Dempsey · April 28th, 2006, 10:12 AM

From some footage of my daughter:

http://www.pinelakefilms.com/images/taraxl.jpg

James Lundy · April 28th, 2006, 11:55 AM

what settings did you use Steven?

Steven Dempsey · April 29th, 2006, 10:26 PM

Just a quick piece showing some flowers and birds...it was raining, the color is off because I didn't white balance but it shows the beauty the camera can capture. The rain in the background gives it a really nice look.

http://www.realm.cc/upload/disjecta/flowers_bird.m2t

117mb

Ron Pfister · April 30th, 2006, 03:13 AM

Thanks for posting this, Steven! Nice!!

Questions: Was the cam handheld or on tripod? IS enabled or not? Fully zoomed-in? Exposure manual or automatic? And the naturalist wants to know what bird species it is... :-)

Steven Dempsey · April 30th, 2006, 09:07 AM

Ron, the OIS was engaged on the lens and it was fully zoomed in. No tripod. All manual, no auto. The bird is a dark-eyed junco.

Thanks for your comments.

March 15th, 2006, 12:56 PM	#34
Robert Sanders Starway Pictures Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Studio City Posts: 581	I use After Effects a lot to earn my living. So I'm really comfortable with it. Plus I like AE's frame blending. I think it does the best rendering of the bunch. Also I prefer to color correct using curves and FCP doesn't have a native curves editor. I just started using Color Finesse which does have curves, but I think it's second nature to launch AE. I'm looking forward to getting AE 7 and to start doing some slo-mo tests. AE 7 has that great new interpolator for blending/morphing new frames to generate really cool slo-mo effects. So I can't wait to see if it can take 60i footage and slow it down so I can get 120fps. __________________ http://www.starwaypictures.com http://starwaypictures.blogspot.com/

April 4th, 2006, 06:50 AM	#36
Jiri Bueller Tourist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The Netherlands (Europe) Posts: 4	My first footage with my brand new XL-H1 Hi, I'm new to this forum, i'm new to digital filmmaking. But i would like to share my first footage, shot with the XL-H1 with you. http://www.hifi.nl/shows/verslag.php?s=lente2006 I hope you enjoy it and i'm open for any suggestions, esspecialy to improve the technical image quality of the movie. Greetings, Jiri

April 4th, 2006, 02:11 PM	#37
Ron Pfister Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Basel area, Switzerland Posts: 285	Interesting stuff, Jiri! Thanks for posting it! When watching the clip, I noticed that the location showed a variety of lightsources, often in the same scene (tungsten, FL and daylight). My impression was that the white balance was consistently good throughout the clip, and I was wondering whether you had set white balance to auto or whether you had adjusted it manually as needed. TIA for your feedback! Cheers, Ron __________________ Ronald P. Pfister halimedia - digital solutions and services www.halimedia.com

April 6th, 2006, 09:07 PM	#39
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Some very basic chroma key H1 SDI clips 4U all... Hey everybody, I have some raw clips on the iDisk for whoever wants a semi-challenging chroma key test. www.homepage.mac.com/mrbarlowelton These clips were piped in SDI direct to FCP, bypassing HDV, and compressed in DVCProHD. One is a 24F clip converted to DV100 24P, the other is a straight 1080i. There are also a couple of uncompressed 10bit frames...one 24F and one 1080i for you guys to compare. I didn't have time to go get a better chroma key 8x8 from the studio, so I just had my wife pick up 2 yards of chroma green looking cloth from the fabric store. It was a very dim, rainy day today and this was all natural light. I though some of you with keying chops might be interested to take a crack at this stuff. Please post a frame of your results if you can. Thanks, Barlow

April 28th, 2006, 10:12 AM	#41
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	XLH1 Grab From some footage of my daughter: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/images/taraxl.jpg

March 15th, 2006, 10:09 AM	#31
Yasser Kassana Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 223	I have already seen this but man do i love it. The second test with the man looking at the cam - evokes a great feeling, a feeling that every film maker aspires for. Clean and film like. The xl1h is seriously impressing me more and more.

March 15th, 2006, 11:20 AM	#32
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	The dam of coolness from filmmakers with this camera is beginning to burst. Thanks Robert. I REALLY look forward to your posts!!

March 15th, 2006, 11:22 AM	#33
Vincent Rozenberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 475	Nice footage! Inspires me making my own time-lapses... Any particular reason you used AE for the speed ups instead of a NLE?

March 15th, 2006, 03:41 PM	#35
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Please post some slow-mo results when you can Robert. I'm very interested to figure out how good "overcrank" in 1080p might look. I've had good results going down to 720p, but I'm wanting to create 1080 "overcrank" material that will look convincingly good when intercut with 24F. Does AE 7 do good vertical interpolation of 1440x540 frames so that you could convert the interlace frames into 60fps 1080 material? If it does a reasonably good job then I'll have to get AE7 along with the ever increasing amount of stuff I want to get for my camera.

April 7th, 2006, 12:30 PM	#40
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	There's a clip up called "greenkidscomp1.mov" on the iDisk that someone who pulled the key contributed. It's an MPEG 4 QT file. www.homepage.mac.com/mrbarlowelton

April 28th, 2006, 11:55 AM	#42
James Lundy Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Lothian - Bonnie Scotland Posts: 51	what settings did you use Steven?

April 29th, 2006, 10:26 PM	#43
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	XLH1 Footage Just a quick piece showing some flowers and birds...it was raining, the color is off because I didn't white balance but it shows the beauty the camera can capture. The rain in the background gives it a really nice look. http://www.realm.cc/upload/disjecta/flowers_bird.m2t 117mb

April 30th, 2006, 03:13 AM	#44
Ron Pfister Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Basel area, Switzerland Posts: 285	Thanks for posting this, Steven! Nice!! Questions: Was the cam handheld or on tripod? IS enabled or not? Fully zoomed-in? Exposure manual or automatic? And the naturalist wants to know what bird species it is... :-) __________________ Ronald P. Pfister halimedia - digital solutions and services www.halimedia.com

April 30th, 2006, 09:07 AM	#45
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	Ron, the OIS was engaged on the lens and it was fully zoomed in. No tripod. All manual, no auto. The bird is a dark-eyed junco. Thanks for your comments.