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Chris Hurd · October 6th, 2005, 01:57 PM

Howdy from the Windy City,

I've been asked to help out with the XL H1 demo at the Chicago ResFest, which goes today through Sunday. Nothing formal like Jan's HVX presentation (if it was something of that magnitude, Canon would have sent out one of their own tech reps). Nope, all I'm doing is babysitting the camera at a table out in the lounge tonight, Friday night and all day Saturday. No sample video to be shown but a working camera will be there with the power on. For any of our Chicago area members, please be sure to drop by and say hello -- it's always a treat to meet folks from the boards. The lounge area is free. Details and location info is found at:

http://www.resfest.com/index.php?page=venue&id=4

Chris Hurd · October 6th, 2005, 08:37 PM

Anybody in the Chicago area who owns the Sony HVR-M10 HDV deck and is willing to bring it down to the ResFest lounge on Friday or Saturday, I will take you out to dinner at a nice restaurant on my dime. I'd love to confirm for certain one way or the other that the M10 will or will not play back 24F from the XL H1. I have a feeling it won't work but it would be great to know for sure either way. Will be there from 2pm-10pm on the 7th and 12pm-10pm on the 8th.

(I thought about the Apple Store on Mich. Ave., I'm right around the corner from it, but they don't carry the M10 deck).

Heath McKnight · October 6th, 2005, 09:37 PM

Too bad I won't be in Chicago until late October. Try calling or emailing Spot, Chris, see if he can Fed Ex it.

heath

Chris Hurd · October 6th, 2005, 09:43 PM

Oh it ain't *that* high-priority. It's dinner worthy, but not exactly exorbitant shipping charge plus insurance worthy.

Heath McKnight · October 6th, 2005, 09:56 PM

What about an FX1--they play HD10/HD1 footage (haven't tried the HD100 in 24p mode footage, but that's what this weekend is for).

heath

Chris Hurd · October 6th, 2005, 10:17 PM

Yeah, last week at ResFest in L.A., Barry Green determined that none of the Sony or JVC HDV cameras nor the JVC deck will play back 24F from the Canon XL H1... the only unknown at this point is the M10 deck, which is why I'm looking for it specifically.

Heath McKnight · October 6th, 2005, 10:21 PM

Gotcha. Well, tell ya what, send the Canon XL H1 to me in West Palm Beach, Florida, and I'll do some tests, shoot some stuff, invite Fordham over for some laughs and more shoots and we'll test out the M10 theory.

Can any of the cameras play back 1080i60 footage?

heath

Barry Green · October 6th, 2005, 11:22 PM

Heath, if you have access to an M10 deck, I could send you the tape Nate shot at ResFest L.A. and you could see if that would play.

I know that's not quite the same as getting a $9,000 camera sent to you ;) but it might still prove instructive...

Heath McKnight · October 6th, 2005, 11:37 PM

Sure, send it on over. If you still have access to the camera, can you shoot in 1080i60 so I can look at the footage (I assume the M10 will support the regular HDV stuff).

Send me an email (hmcknight@mac.com) and I'll hit you back with my address.

Thanks,

heath

Nick Hiltgen · October 7th, 2005, 06:02 AM

Barry if you're looking to shop out that footage, I've got a deck and a couple of multi format monitors as well here at the office. I'm wondering if playback was some sort of an issue with the footage as well.

Jean-Philippe Archibald · October 7th, 2005, 06:45 AM

Chris,

Will you have the opportunity to test the standard def XL lenses with de XLH1? I am pretty interested to know how it performs in the standard def mode (an SD cam with 16:9 ccds and SDI output worth 9000$ IMO), but I am curious to see by how much the HD footage is compromised by using an SD lens. If the difference is not so great, we could use the 3X lens waiting for a true wide angle HD solution. I know that this question interest other members too...

Have a great Resfest!

Kevin Dooley · October 7th, 2005, 06:50 AM

Well, if you wanted to try that out Chris, I'm local and I've got the standard 16x XL1s lens

Jean-Philippe Archibald · October 7th, 2005, 07:11 AM

Oh, and you could take some pictures... I never saw a black camcorder with a white Canon lens :)

Chris Hurd · October 7th, 2005, 09:46 AM

There is an XL2 on the table with a 20x lens; I could get those photos... but not much actual "testing" as it's a pretty limited demo. Just a museum lobby, handheld only... will see what I can do. Somebody want to bring a 3x down? Heh.

October 6th, 2005, 01:57 PM	#1
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	At ResFest Chicago Howdy from the Windy City, I've been asked to help out with the XL H1 demo at the Chicago ResFest, which goes today through Sunday. Nothing formal like Jan's HVX presentation (if it was something of that magnitude, Canon would have sent out one of their own tech reps). Nope, all I'm doing is babysitting the camera at a table out in the lounge tonight, Friday night and all day Saturday. No sample video to be shown but a working camera will be there with the power on. For any of our Chicago area members, please be sure to drop by and say hello -- it's always a treat to meet folks from the boards. The lounge area is free. Details and location info is found at: http://www.resfest.com/index.php?page=venue&id=4 __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 6th, 2005, 08:37 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Anybody in the Chicago area who owns the Sony HVR-M10 HDV deck and is willing to bring it down to the ResFest lounge on Friday or Saturday, I will take you out to dinner at a nice restaurant on my dime. I'd love to confirm for certain one way or the other that the M10 will or will not play back 24F from the XL H1. I have a feeling it won't work but it would be great to know for sure either way. Will be there from 2pm-10pm on the 7th and 12pm-10pm on the 8th. (I thought about the Apple Store on Mich. Ave., I'm right around the corner from it, but they don't carry the M10 deck). __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 6th, 2005, 09:37 PM	#3
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Too bad I won't be in Chicago until late October. Try calling or emailing Spot, Chris, see if he can Fed Ex it. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

October 6th, 2005, 09:43 PM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Oh it ain't that high-priority. It's dinner worthy, but not exactly exorbitant shipping charge plus insurance worthy. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 6th, 2005, 09:56 PM	#5
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	What about an FX1--they play HD10/HD1 footage (haven't tried the HD100 in 24p mode footage, but that's what this weekend is for). heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

October 6th, 2005, 10:17 PM	#6
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Yeah, last week at ResFest in L.A., Barry Green determined that none of the Sony or JVC HDV cameras nor the JVC deck will play back 24F from the Canon XL H1... the only unknown at this point is the M10 deck, which is why I'm looking for it specifically. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 6th, 2005, 10:21 PM	#7
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Gotcha. Well, tell ya what, send the Canon XL H1 to me in West Palm Beach, Florida, and I'll do some tests, shoot some stuff, invite Fordham over for some laughs and more shoots and we'll test out the M10 theory. Can any of the cameras play back 1080i60 footage? heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

October 6th, 2005, 11:22 PM	#8
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Heath, if you have access to an M10 deck, I could send you the tape Nate shot at ResFest L.A. and you could see if that would play. I know that's not quite the same as getting a $9,000 camera sent to you ;) but it might still prove instructive... Last edited by Barry Green; October 7th, 2005 at 12:28 AM.

October 6th, 2005, 11:37 PM	#9
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Sure, send it on over. If you still have access to the camera, can you shoot in 1080i60 so I can look at the footage (I assume the M10 will support the regular HDV stuff). Send me an email (hmcknight@mac.com) and I'll hit you back with my address. Thanks, heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

October 7th, 2005, 06:02 AM	#10
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	Barry if you're looking to shop out that footage, I've got a deck and a couple of multi format monitors as well here at the office. I'm wondering if playback was some sort of an issue with the footage as well. __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...

October 7th, 2005, 06:45 AM	#11
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	Chris, Will you have the opportunity to test the standard def XL lenses with de XLH1? I am pretty interested to know how it performs in the standard def mode (an SD cam with 16:9 ccds and SDI output worth 9000$ IMO), but I am curious to see by how much the HD footage is compromised by using an SD lens. If the difference is not so great, we could use the 3X lens waiting for a true wide angle HD solution. I know that this question interest other members too... Have a great Resfest! __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib

October 7th, 2005, 06:50 AM	#12
Kevin Dooley Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 414	Well, if you wanted to try that out Chris, I'm local and I've got the standard 16x XL1s lens __________________ Kevin Dooley Media Director, Pantego Bible Church

October 7th, 2005, 07:11 AM	#13
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	Oh, and you could take some pictures... I never saw a black camcorder with a white Canon lens :) __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib Last edited by Jean-Philippe Archibald; October 7th, 2005 at 09:03 AM.

October 7th, 2005, 09:46 AM	#14
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	There is an XL2 on the table with a 20x lens; I could get those photos... but not much actual "testing" as it's a pretty limited demo. Just a museum lobby, handheld only... will see what I can do. Somebody want to bring a 3x down? Heh. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!