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October 1st, 2005, 01:21 PM
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The Clip marked as 24p is in fact 30p. The Panning clip is 24p. Interesting stuff.
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October 1st, 2005, 01:37 PM
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Obstreperous Rex
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So just to be clear, here is the clip that is definitely 24F:
http://www.hdvinfo.net/media/kakugyo...anning.m2t.zip (43.6M) I'll ask Kaku to shoot a couple more 24F clips for us at his convenience. |
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October 1st, 2005, 02:19 PM
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file:
XLH1chromaaberration?.m2t.zip not found on the server, shame as this was the one I wanted to see most of all :(
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October 1st, 2005, 02:43 PM
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Obstreperous Rex
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Fixed. The link is http://www.hdvinfo.net/media/kakugyo...ation?.m2t.zip
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October 1st, 2005, 02:55 PM
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yes its working
many thanks
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October 1st, 2005, 03:04 PM
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Chris,
FYI...the conversation clip is not working as well. (and thanks again to both of you for getting these online). Barry |
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October 1st, 2005, 03:57 PM
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Well.
Back to back viewing of these clips vs. HD100 vs. Z1...looks like Canon isn't cheating on their 1440x1080 chips claim. |
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October 1st, 2005, 04:00 PM
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Regular Crew
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Well, now that I have seen all the clips (excl. those who didnt work) I feel good, not to say very good that I ordered the JVC. The Canon feels very videolike in motion (incl. the 24f ones). Although the image is very very good I think this camera is more suited for TV work and not so much for indie-filmmaking. The JVC is much better suited for shorts/features than the Canon.
This will be a great camera for television and live broadcasts but is the wrong toy for ppl like me. The price tag is clearly aimed at another target than indie-filmmakers! Thx alot for posting the clips. There was another topic from a french site with clips as well, intresting. I feel good waiting for my JVC to arrive on monday! |
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October 1st, 2005, 04:21 PM
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I have to say I'm impressed, more so than any of the clips from the JVC I have seen.
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October 1st, 2005, 04:24 PM
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Hmm...not sure how much we can judge from these clips. It looks exactly like what I'd expect...an XL2 picture with higher resolution. That's not a knock. It looks good, but with totally uncontrolled circumstances like street scenes, it's hard to really show off how good a camera picture is.
I personally think my XL2 picture is only mediocre in scenes like this and sometimes looks like a $1000 camera. However, if properly lit, it can create an excellent picture and rival much better cameras. I look forward to Canon and Panny releasing their footage for these cameras in controlled environments. Kevin |
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October 1st, 2005, 04:28 PM
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Obstreperous Rex
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Since I'm having trouble with it too, I've asked Kaku to re-upload the chromatic ab. clip (that is when he wakes up -- it is the middle of the night in Japan right now). What else is not working?
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October 1st, 2005, 04:36 PM
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All clips including the 2nd chromatic ab clip worked for me on a Mac using VLC.
Great to see some footage. It does look impressive. By the way, the interior cappuccino clip looks great. A bit underexposed, but I love the way the contrast is coming through. Very nice. KW |
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October 1st, 2005, 04:39 PM
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Wrangler
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Ok, maybe David can answer this:
Why is Bikeseq24 showing up as 29.97, but has no visible pulldown applied? It doesn't even look like it's 24fps playing at 30... In other words, it has all the hallmarks of a 30p clip. (nevermind, I just saw his post way up there) |
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October 1st, 2005, 04:57 PM
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Looks very DV video-like to me. I was hoping to be blown away.
I've just gotten the ok to sell my Z1U and get a newer HDV if I want, but I'm having a hard time considering it after looking at all these clips of the Canon and JVC. So far, the JVC seems a little more to my liking than the Canon. However, the Z1U seems like it's still quite comparable. This is difficult.
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