Custom settings in XLH1 at DVinfo.net

Steve Siegel · May 27th, 2010, 08:59 PM

The subject of custom settings in the XLH1 was dealt with ad nauseum in 2006 when the camcorder was new, but the sites that listed suggested settings for various situations seem to have been, for the most part, stricken from the Internet in the intervening years.
I am trying to eliminate clipping of white highlights in outdoor subjects in dappled light. I already use Cine 2, and low knee, but with the iris open enough to see some detail and color in shadows, the whites still clip when the sun hits them. Short of shooting only on cloudy days, is there a way to minimize this?

Don DesJardin · May 27th, 2010, 11:56 PM

Steve,
You commented on how well my Lewis's Woodpecker looked in full sun, and this is the Custom Preset I used. I don't know if it would help, but it might be worth trying. I have been using this CP for over 2 years, and it's the only one I have in the camera. If you try it, let me know how it works for you and the lighting situation you have in Florida.

GAMMA CURVE [GAM] GAM2
KNEE POINT ADJUSTMENT [KNE] L
BLACK STRETCH/BLACK PRESS [BLK] M
MASTER PED. [PED] 0
SETUP LEVEL [SET] -2
SHARPNESS [SHP] 1
HORIZONTAL DETAIL FREQUENCY [HDF] M
HORIZONTAL/VERTICAL DETAIL BALANCE [DHV] 0
CORING [COR] 0
NOISE REDUCTION 1 [NR1] OFF
NOISE REDUCTION 2 [NR2] OFF
COLOR MATRIX [CMX] 1
COLOR GAIN [CGN] -1
COLOR PHASE [CPH] 0
R GAIN [RGN] -1
G GAIN [GGN] -1
B GAIN [BGN] 0
R-G MATRIX [RGM] 0
R-B MATRIX [RBM] 0
G-R MATRIX [GRM] 0
G-B MATRIX [GBM] 0
B-R MATRIX [BRM] 0
B-G MATRIX [BGM] 0

Steve Siegel · May 28th, 2010, 06:28 PM

Hi Don,

Thanks for the settings. I will try these (with the exception of your red gain settings, as I like things a bit warm).
I suspect that the setup of -2 may be the key, as it might shift the whole gamma curve toward less brightness. I will let you know how it works in Florida.

Steve

Dale Guthormsen · June 4th, 2010, 01:20 PM

Don,

I have been working on presets quite a bit lately. I ut your preset in and went out and did some tests with it. this is certainly one of the bets presets I have used. It does not so readily blow out the brights in high contrast areas so readily. I pushed the red up to bumps as that seems to work best most of the time where I live.

thanks for sharing this

Don DesJardin · June 4th, 2010, 08:26 PM

Dale,
I'm glad my CP worked out for you. The RGB gain settings are very subjective and is the variable part of this CP. My camera set to factory defaults produces a very slight magenta tint to the recorded video, and reducing the R and G gain fixed this problem. Others I have talked to have had a variety of barely noticeable green or red tints, so I think each H1 camera is somewhat unique when it comes to adjusting R, G, or B gain. Glad I could help........Don

May 27th, 2010, 08:59 PM	#1
Steve Siegel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Posts: 840	Custom settings in XLH1 The subject of custom settings in the XLH1 was dealt with ad nauseum in 2006 when the camcorder was new, but the sites that listed suggested settings for various situations seem to have been, for the most part, stricken from the Internet in the intervening years. I am trying to eliminate clipping of white highlights in outdoor subjects in dappled light. I already use Cine 2, and low knee, but with the iris open enough to see some detail and color in shadows, the whites still clip when the sun hits them. Short of shooting only on cloudy days, is there a way to minimize this?

May 27th, 2010, 11:56 PM	#2
Don DesJardin Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 255	Steve, You commented on how well my Lewis's Woodpecker looked in full sun, and this is the Custom Preset I used. I don't know if it would help, but it might be worth trying. I have been using this CP for over 2 years, and it's the only one I have in the camera. If you try it, let me know how it works for you and the lighting situation you have in Florida. GAMMA CURVE [GAM] GAM2 KNEE POINT ADJUSTMENT [KNE] L BLACK STRETCH/BLACK PRESS [BLK] M MASTER PED. [PED] 0 SETUP LEVEL [SET] -2 SHARPNESS [SHP] 1 HORIZONTAL DETAIL FREQUENCY [HDF] M HORIZONTAL/VERTICAL DETAIL BALANCE [DHV] 0 CORING [COR] 0 NOISE REDUCTION 1 [NR1] OFF NOISE REDUCTION 2 [NR2] OFF COLOR MATRIX [CMX] 1 COLOR GAIN [CGN] -1 COLOR PHASE [CPH] 0 R GAIN [RGN] -1 G GAIN [GGN] -1 B GAIN [BGN] 0 R-G MATRIX [RGM] 0 R-B MATRIX [RBM] 0 G-R MATRIX [GRM] 0 G-B MATRIX [GBM] 0 B-R MATRIX [BRM] 0 B-G MATRIX [BGM] 0 __________________ Don DesJardin

June 4th, 2010, 01:20 PM	#4
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Don, I have been working on presets quite a bit lately. I ut your preset in and went out and did some tests with it. this is certainly one of the bets presets I have used. It does not so readily blow out the brights in high contrast areas so readily. I pushed the red up to bumps as that seems to work best most of the time where I live. thanks for sharing this __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

June 4th, 2010, 08:26 PM	#5
Don DesJardin Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 255	Dale, I'm glad my CP worked out for you. The RGB gain settings are very subjective and is the variable part of this CP. My camera set to factory defaults produces a very slight magenta tint to the recorded video, and reducing the R and G gain fixed this problem. Others I have talked to have had a variety of barely noticeable green or red tints, so I think each H1 camera is somewhat unique when it comes to adjusting R, G, or B gain. Glad I could help........Don __________________ Don DesJardin

May 28th, 2010, 06:28 PM	#3
Steve Siegel Major Player Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Posts: 840	Hi Don, Thanks for the settings. I will try these (with the exception of your red gain settings, as I like things a bit warm). I suspect that the setup of -2 may be the key, as it might shift the whole gamma curve toward less brightness. I will let you know how it works in Florida. Steve