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Michael Padilla · March 26th, 2009, 12:39 PM

Does anyone know if we can purchase a new xl-h1s lens for the original XLH1 body?

Robert Sanders · March 26th, 2009, 02:29 PM

I'm not sure you can buy the 20x lens by itself. You can definitely buy the 6x L Series lens for the XLH1.

Dale Guthormsen · March 27th, 2009, 06:17 PM

Good evening,

If you go to my post "Lens Question" I took pictures with an xl2 lens on an xlh1 and posted them.

wish I had both of the wide lenses to compare too!!!!

fundementally no difference!!!!

Pete Bauer · March 27th, 2009, 07:10 PM

Of course the 6X wasn't out yet when I did the comparison I mentioned in your other thread on the lenses, but considering how well the 3X actually did, I suspect the answer is the same as with the 20X lenses: it wouldn't be worth the cost to get the HD lenses to use with the XL2. The SD lenses are good -- enough so that they don't lag too badly when on the XL H1, as compared to the HD lenses. They aren't HD lenses, but are pretty darn good SD lenses.

Bruce S. Yarock · April 6th, 2009, 05:22 AM

I had the 3x wide angle , which I used with my XL2, before gettimg my H1. I had been using the3x on my H1 umtil a producer I worked for complained about the image.
I got a great deal on the 6x hd version, and the image is spectacular. definately worth it, and I use it all the time.
Bruce Yarock
Yarock Video and Photo

Richard Alvarez · April 6th, 2009, 06:40 AM

The 16x Manual is pretty darn good on the XLH1. My production partner in Houston uses it oh his all the time. The 3x is, in my opinion, not acceptable if you're final output is HD.

Robert Sanders · April 6th, 2009, 04:33 PM

I too have found that most of the Canon's earlier XL lenses work just fine on my H1. Yes, the 3x works, but is very soft in the corners. But, it works.

As far as Michael Padilla's original question, I'm pretty sure the H1s lens will work just fine in the older H1. The only thing is that the aperture control ring will not work. You'll still have to control the aperture via the thumb wheel.

Michael Padilla · April 6th, 2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Sanders

I too have found that most of the Canon's earlier XL lenses work just fine on my H1. Yes, the 3x works, but is very soft in the corners. But, it works.

As far as Michael Padilla's original question, I'm pretty sure the H1s lens will work just fine in the older H1. The only thing is that the aperture control ring will not work. You'll still have to control the aperture via the thumb wheel.

Ahhh.. thank you. I suppose that is really what I was looking for; so the engine behind the XLH1s (which being similar to that of the A1/G1) controls the iris ring! Ok, so really there would be no reason to get the newer lens unless I just broke mine. Cool. Overall I am quite happy with the original xlh1, the LCD could be better.. did they fix that on the "s" version?

Thanks

Robert Sanders · April 7th, 2009, 01:07 PM

The only thing the newer 20x lenses have over the older ones would be better coatings for chromatic aberrations. But, to be honest, I can't really tell if CA is reduced by these new coatings or not. I'm pretty sure it's nominal.

Chris Hurd · August 12th, 2009, 03:31 PM

Actually the biggest difference between the new 20x lens for the S/A models vs. the older XL H1 stock 20x lens is the totally redesigned control rings... they are bigger, farther apart, and have a much tighter feel. Plus the new 20x can pull zoom and focus at the same time... the older 20x cannot.

Floris van Eck · August 15th, 2009, 05:20 PM

He asks if he can buy the redesigned 20X HD Lens separately, you all answer about how good the SD lenses are ;) I agree with all of you though!

I don't think you can buy the new 20X separately officially, but some of the site sponsors here are also selling kits with the wide lens instead of the 20X. I guess when they sell one with the 6X HD WIDE they just sell the regular lens separately.

I would phone around a bit and see if they can help you.

March 26th, 2009, 12:39 PM	#1
Michael Padilla Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: O.C., CA United States Posts: 337	new lense xl a or s for original xl Does anyone know if we can purchase a new xl-h1s lens for the original XLH1 body? __________________ -M www.visualmasterpiece.com

March 26th, 2009, 02:29 PM	#2
Robert Sanders Starway Pictures Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Studio City Posts: 581	I'm not sure you can buy the 20x lens by itself. You can definitely buy the 6x L Series lens for the XLH1. __________________ http://www.starwaypictures.com http://starwaypictures.blogspot.com/

March 27th, 2009, 06:17 PM	#3
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Good evening, If you go to my post "Lens Question" I took pictures with an xl2 lens on an xlh1 and posted them. wish I had both of the wide lenses to compare too!!!! fundementally no difference!!!! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

March 27th, 2009, 07:10 PM	#4
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Of course the 6X wasn't out yet when I did the comparison I mentioned in your other thread on the lenses, but considering how well the 3X actually did, I suspect the answer is the same as with the 20X lenses: it wouldn't be worth the cost to get the HD lenses to use with the XL2. The SD lenses are good -- enough so that they don't lag too badly when on the XL H1, as compared to the HD lenses. They aren't HD lenses, but are pretty darn good SD lenses. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

April 6th, 2009, 04:33 PM	#7
Robert Sanders Starway Pictures Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Studio City Posts: 581	I too have found that most of the Canon's earlier XL lenses work just fine on my H1. Yes, the 3x works, but is very soft in the corners. But, it works. As far as Michael Padilla's original question, I'm pretty sure the H1s lens will work just fine in the older H1. The only thing is that the aperture control ring will not work. You'll still have to control the aperture via the thumb wheel. __________________ http://www.starwaypictures.com http://starwaypictures.blogspot.com/

April 6th, 2009, 05:22 AM	#5
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	I had the 3x wide angle , which I used with my XL2, before gettimg my H1. I had been using the3x on my H1 umtil a producer I worked for complained about the image. I got a great deal on the 6x hd version, and the image is spectacular. definately worth it, and I use it all the time. Bruce Yarock Yarock Video and Photo

April 6th, 2009, 06:40 AM	#6
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	The 16x Manual is pretty darn good on the XLH1. My production partner in Houston uses it oh his all the time. The 3x is, in my opinion, not acceptable if you're final output is HD.

April 7th, 2009, 01:07 PM	#9
Robert Sanders Starway Pictures Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Studio City Posts: 581	The only thing the newer 20x lenses have over the older ones would be better coatings for chromatic aberrations. But, to be honest, I can't really tell if CA is reduced by these new coatings or not. I'm pretty sure it's nominal. __________________ http://www.starwaypictures.com http://starwaypictures.blogspot.com/

August 12th, 2009, 03:31 PM	#10
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Actually the biggest difference between the new 20x lens for the S/A models vs. the older XL H1 stock 20x lens is the totally redesigned control rings... they are bigger, farther apart, and have a much tighter feel. Plus the new 20x can pull zoom and focus at the same time... the older 20x cannot. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

August 15th, 2009, 05:20 PM	#11
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	He asks if he can buy the redesigned 20X HD Lens separately, you all answer about how good the SD lenses are ;) I agree with all of you though! I don't think you can buy the new 20X separately officially, but some of the site sponsors here are also selling kits with the wide lens instead of the 20X. I guess when they sell one with the 6X HD WIDE they just sell the regular lens separately. I would phone around a bit and see if they can help you.