Service Manual/schematic- tape transport ? at DVinfo.net

Bruce S. Yarock · January 28th, 2009, 03:09 AM

The tape transport on my H1 stopped working on a shoot yesterday. Actually, the tape door wouldn't close, and when I turned it upside down, a rubber guide roller fell out. A friend who does computer and eletronic repairs looked inside and said that there was also a retainng (?) screw missing.
I'd like to avoid having to pack it up and send it to Canon, especially if it's not a big deal to fix.
Anybody have a link to a schematic or service manual pdf?
Thanks
Bruce S. Yarock
Yarock Video and Photo

Marty Hudzik · January 29th, 2009, 04:58 PM

Sorry to hear about this unfortunate event, especially since that is my old camera! However, I am 99.9% sure that you are not going to be able to locate schematics or service manuals anywhere. Because Canon perform all of their own service in a few select locations, service manuals are not distributed. So unless someone from Canon has leached one from there few service centers, you will probably have to send it in for service. Sorry.

Maybe someone can be of more help but I recall hearing this from the grandmaster himself ( I am referring to Mr. Hurd).

Bruce S. Yarock · January 29th, 2009, 05:06 PM

Marty,
Thanks for the reply. I really do love your old camera, and have shot lots of footage with it. Several months ago I sent it back to Canon for tape transport problems and an overhaul, and they might have warrantied this problem. But i took it to a lcal guy and he's charging me $200. I hate to pay the money, but otherwise i would have had to ship it to canon, wait a couple of weeks, and maybe still get charged.
Btw, did you ever get the Letus? i bought the Extreme, and have been enduring the 35mm learning curve, loving the look, but struggling with focus, set up, etc.
Regards
Bruce Yarock

Marty Hudzik · January 29th, 2009, 05:49 PM

I had the LetusXL for a very brief period and basically hated it! It was nice to mount directly on the XL body, however it had a 1.9x magnification and lost a lot of light. I was not happy at all with the softness of the image and I could just tell I was shooting a piece of ground glass.

I have not had the cash or the opportunity to shoot with the extreme yet but hear it is a lot better. I like clear, clean images and the LetusXL just wasn't cutting it for me.

When comparing clips with and without I always preferred the amazing HD image of the straight lens, despite it having such a deep DOF. I guess I want both shallow DOF and amazingly crisp images. But like the saying goes....there is no free lunch.

Chris Hurd · January 29th, 2009, 05:54 PM

Service manuals are not in public distribution -- they're practically impossible to obtain.

The quoted $200 price is more than fair and is in fact a very good deal. Jump on it.

Bruce S. Yarock · January 30th, 2009, 06:36 AM

Chris,
This guy is basically a camera repair shop. When I brought the camera in, his tech told me it looked simple, and that it should be around $50. They called me the next day and said that it was "more complicated" yada yada yada, and that it would be $489!!!. I told the the girl on the phone that I had recently had an overhaul by Canon, including the tape transport, which had cost $475, and that I would send it back to Canon. She puit me on hold and talked to her boss, then came back on and said they would now do it for $199, but with no warranty( I could try it in the shop). So i asked her if the $199 job and the the $489 job were the same , minus the warranty. She said " yes", so I told her to go ahaed.
I think that we're in the wrong part of this business.
Bruce Yarock
Yarock Video and Photo

Curt Fargo · February 6th, 2009, 01:04 AM

Being VERY active in the camera repair industry myself now for over 30 years, I can guarantee you that a photographers or videographers that is worth a darn make much more money then any camera repair person. The camera repair industry is getting smaller and smaller as we speak as their is no big money in it.

As for service manuals, the law requires that they sell them and parts too. The law doesn't dictate the price though. If you still need a manual, let me know I can see what I can do to help.

January 28th, 2009, 03:09 AM	#1
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Service Manual/schematic- tape transport ? The tape transport on my H1 stopped working on a shoot yesterday. Actually, the tape door wouldn't close, and when I turned it upside down, a rubber guide roller fell out. A friend who does computer and eletronic repairs looked inside and said that there was also a retainng (?) screw missing. I'd like to avoid having to pack it up and send it to Canon, especially if it's not a big deal to fix. Anybody have a link to a schematic or service manual pdf? Thanks Bruce S. Yarock Yarock Video and Photo

January 29th, 2009, 05:54 PM	#5
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Service manuals are not in public distribution -- they're practically impossible to obtain. The quoted $200 price is more than fair and is in fact a very good deal. Jump on it. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 6th, 2009, 01:04 AM	#7
Curt Fargo Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vacaville, CA USA Posts: 83	Being VERY active in the camera repair industry myself now for over 30 years, I can guarantee you that a photographers or videographers that is worth a darn make much more money then any camera repair person. The camera repair industry is getting smaller and smaller as we speak as their is no big money in it. As for service manuals, the law requires that they sell them and parts too. The law doesn't dictate the price though. If you still need a manual, let me know I can see what I can do to help. __________________ Curt Fargo

January 29th, 2009, 04:58 PM	#2
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Sorry to hear about this unfortunate event, especially since that is my old camera! However, I am 99.9% sure that you are not going to be able to locate schematics or service manuals anywhere. Because Canon perform all of their own service in a few select locations, service manuals are not distributed. So unless someone from Canon has leached one from there few service centers, you will probably have to send it in for service. Sorry. Maybe someone can be of more help but I recall hearing this from the grandmaster himself ( I am referring to Mr. Hurd).

January 29th, 2009, 05:06 PM	#3
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Marty, Thanks for the reply. I really do love your old camera, and have shot lots of footage with it. Several months ago I sent it back to Canon for tape transport problems and an overhaul, and they might have warrantied this problem. But i took it to a lcal guy and he's charging me $200. I hate to pay the money, but otherwise i would have had to ship it to canon, wait a couple of weeks, and maybe still get charged. Btw, did you ever get the Letus? i bought the Extreme, and have been enduring the 35mm learning curve, loving the look, but struggling with focus, set up, etc. Regards Bruce Yarock

January 29th, 2009, 05:49 PM	#4
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	I had the LetusXL for a very brief period and basically hated it! It was nice to mount directly on the XL body, however it had a 1.9x magnification and lost a lot of light. I was not happy at all with the softness of the image and I could just tell I was shooting a piece of ground glass. I have not had the cash or the opportunity to shoot with the extreme yet but hear it is a lot better. I like clear, clean images and the LetusXL just wasn't cutting it for me. When comparing clips with and without I always preferred the amazing HD image of the straight lens, despite it having such a deep DOF. I guess I want both shallow DOF and amazingly crisp images. But like the saying goes....there is no free lunch.

January 30th, 2009, 06:36 AM	#6
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Chris, This guy is basically a camera repair shop. When I brought the camera in, his tech told me it looked simple, and that it should be around $50. They called me the next day and said that it was "more complicated" yada yada yada, and that it would be $489!!!. I told the the girl on the phone that I had recently had an overhaul by Canon, including the tape transport, which had cost $475, and that I would send it back to Canon. She puit me on hold and talked to her boss, then came back on and said they would now do it for $199, but with no warranty( I could try it in the shop). So i asked her if the $199 job and the the $489 job were the same , minus the warranty. She said " yes", so I told her to go ahaed. I think that we're in the wrong part of this business. Bruce Yarock Yarock Video and Photo