Custom Preset? at DVinfo.net

Ron Stoecklein · April 24th, 2008, 01:32 PM

Okay I am an XL2 user and only recently(this week an XL H1 user)--custom presets were only 3 and you could pull the preset up and edit it --with the .cpf files of the XL H1- I loaded custom presets okay onto the card and then into the cam--but how do you create or edit presets outside of the cam itself on the computer--and I'm guessing its a windows only platform?

thanks for any help on the subject!

Ron

Ron Stoecklein · April 25th, 2008, 08:49 AM

Geez seem to be asking a question that either no one can answer or its so remedial that no one wants to bother--

So this is my assumption I either buy CONSOLE from Canon--where I am guessing that I could create custom presets or I can simply create my preset in the camera and when I have created more that 6 take it from my Cameras 6 Presets and load it to my SD card.

If there is a simpler way however I'd sure like to know. (I did see a post somewhere whereby someone had created a standalone software for creating custom .cpf presets--tried it--it worked fine except that the presets show as an error on the cam.)

My thoughts are to work on some of my own presets for surfing conditions--all of which are a bit different--low light am, mid day, mid day cloudy-no sun, and late afternoon backlit--plus on the beach interviews with surfers......

....or do you think I'd be better off to use one preset--and then white balance for the different conditions (which I would do anyhow).

If anyone has any thoughts as to which settings might be most useful to "tweak" input would be most appreciated.

Thanks
Ron

Robert Morane · April 25th, 2008, 09:07 AM

Can the look of any preset be created in post using Color? And if so , isn't better to shoot without any preset and work your shootage in optimal condition (post)?

Chris Hurd · April 25th, 2008, 09:07 AM

Hi Ron,

Download and install the XL H1 Custom presets tuner for Windows or Mac from Felix Theissen.
Tuner software discussion thread here. Sorry I didn't see this earlier.

Ron Stoecklein · April 25th, 2008, 10:03 AM

Thanks for the reply Chris.

I actually had found Felix's software for the mac and downloaded--created some presets--loaded it to my PRESET folder on the SD card--the presets are there but show an err-message--when opeing them on the menu preset tuner on the cam--

Any thoughts on what might be the problem?

thanks for your help

Ron

Ron Stoecklein · April 25th, 2008, 10:16 AM

Hi Robert--

I can only give you my take on your reply---I guess if you shot with the factory preset--and just looked at all footage as being raw--and thus assume that almost all footage would have to be corrected in post that would be one way to look at it.

I know from footage that I have shot for a surf documentary in El Salvador I always use a Custom preset that was on the XL2 DVinfo.net site and I tweaked a bit--I "almost" never have to do any correction in post.

I guess it would also depend on what you were filming.

Just my thoughts!

Ron

Robert Morane · April 25th, 2008, 10:55 AM

Thank you Ron. Basically what I am shooting is 80% interviews.

Felix Theissen · April 29th, 2008, 03:36 AM

Hi, Ron it would be great if you could send me two similar presets - one created with the editor outside the camera and one created inside the camera, then i could look what could cause the problem that you get an error message. (I don´t own the Canon XH-A1 anymore and i don´t own the XLH1, i went with HV20). The editor won´t work for presets of the XL2.

Regards - Felix

P.S. forgot to say, my email address is on the website where you downloaded the application right above the download links.

Felix Theissen · April 29th, 2008, 03:52 AM

Oh, and there are two editors for download - the XH Editor for the XH-A1/G1 and the XLH1 editor for the XLH1. Presets created with the wrong editor won´t work in the camera.

Regards - Felix

Ron Stoecklein · April 29th, 2008, 07:44 PM

Thanks for your reply--per your advice--i think I'll try going back and downloading the software again--possibly I downloaded the wrong one.

Love the simplicity and the fact that it works on a mac.

Ron

Ron Stoecklein · April 29th, 2008, 09:01 PM

Thanks Felix--I must have downloaded wrong software the first time around--just tried it and no problems!!

Thanks Ron

Felix Theissen · April 30th, 2008, 06:36 PM

Glad to hear it works, Ron. There is one feature in this editor, which is not so obvious. If you have the editor for the XLH1 you can open a preset for the XHA1/G1 and it will automatically converted fot the XLH1 (you have to save it then with a new name, then the original will be untouched). The same with the XH Editor - it can open and convert presets from XLH1 and convert them for the XHA1/G1.

Felix

April 24th, 2008, 01:32 PM	#1
Ron Stoecklein Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 60	Custom Preset? Okay I am an XL2 user and only recently(this week an XL H1 user)--custom presets were only 3 and you could pull the preset up and edit it --with the .cpf files of the XL H1- I loaded custom presets okay onto the card and then into the cam--but how do you create or edit presets outside of the cam itself on the computer--and I'm guessing its a windows only platform? thanks for any help on the subject! Ron

April 25th, 2008, 08:49 AM	#2
Ron Stoecklein Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 60	Presets Geez seem to be asking a question that either no one can answer or its so remedial that no one wants to bother-- So this is my assumption I either buy CONSOLE from Canon--where I am guessing that I could create custom presets or I can simply create my preset in the camera and when I have created more that 6 take it from my Cameras 6 Presets and load it to my SD card. If there is a simpler way however I'd sure like to know. (I did see a post somewhere whereby someone had created a standalone software for creating custom .cpf presets--tried it--it worked fine except that the presets show as an error on the cam.) My thoughts are to work on some of my own presets for surfing conditions--all of which are a bit different--low light am, mid day, mid day cloudy-no sun, and late afternoon backlit--plus on the beach interviews with surfers...... ....or do you think I'd be better off to use one preset--and then white balance for the different conditions (which I would do anyhow). If anyone has any thoughts as to which settings might be most useful to "tweak" input would be most appreciated. Thanks Ron

April 25th, 2008, 09:07 AM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Hi Ron, Download and install the XL H1 Custom presets tuner for Windows or Mac from Felix Theissen. Tuner software discussion thread here. Sorry I didn't see this earlier. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 25th, 2008, 10:03 AM	#5
Ron Stoecklein Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 60	Presets Thanks for the reply Chris. I actually had found Felix's software for the mac and downloaded--created some presets--loaded it to my PRESET folder on the SD card--the presets are there but show an err-message--when opeing them on the menu preset tuner on the cam-- Any thoughts on what might be the problem? thanks for your help Ron

April 25th, 2008, 10:16 AM	#6
Ron Stoecklein Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 60	Robert-presets Hi Robert-- I can only give you my take on your reply---I guess if you shot with the factory preset--and just looked at all footage as being raw--and thus assume that almost all footage would have to be corrected in post that would be one way to look at it. I know from footage that I have shot for a surf documentary in El Salvador I always use a Custom preset that was on the XL2 DVinfo.net site and I tweaked a bit--I "almost" never have to do any correction in post. I guess it would also depend on what you were filming. Just my thoughts! Ron

April 25th, 2008, 09:07 AM	#3
Robert Morane Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 267	Can the look of any preset be created in post using Color? And if so , isn't better to shoot without any preset and work your shootage in optimal condition (post)?

April 25th, 2008, 10:55 AM	#7
Robert Morane Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 267	Thank you Ron. Basically what I am shooting is 80% interviews.

April 29th, 2008, 03:36 AM	#8
Felix Theissen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 47	Hi, Ron it would be great if you could send me two similar presets - one created with the editor outside the camera and one created inside the camera, then i could look what could cause the problem that you get an error message. (I don´t own the Canon XH-A1 anymore and i don´t own the XLH1, i went with HV20). The editor won´t work for presets of the XL2. Regards - Felix P.S. forgot to say, my email address is on the website where you downloaded the application right above the download links.

April 29th, 2008, 03:52 AM	#9
Felix Theissen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 47	Oh, and there are two editors for download - the XH Editor for the XH-A1/G1 and the XLH1 editor for the XLH1. Presets created with the wrong editor won´t work in the camera. Regards - Felix

April 29th, 2008, 07:44 PM	#10
Ron Stoecklein Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 60	Presets-Thanks Felix Thanks for your reply--per your advice--i think I'll try going back and downloading the software again--possibly I downloaded the wrong one. Love the simplicity and the fact that it works on a mac. Ron

April 29th, 2008, 09:01 PM	#11
Ron Stoecklein Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 60	Software works Thanks Felix--I must have downloaded wrong software the first time around--just tried it and no problems!! Thanks Ron

April 30th, 2008, 06:36 PM	#12
Felix Theissen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 47	Glad to hear it works, Ron. There is one feature in this editor, which is not so obvious. If you have the editor for the XLH1 you can open a preset for the XHA1/G1 and it will automatically converted fot the XLH1 (you have to save it then with a new name, then the original will be untouched). The same with the XH Editor - it can open and convert presets from XLH1 and convert them for the XHA1/G1. Felix