Which field monitor are you using? What monitor to buy.

Floris van Eck · March 24th, 2008, 09:09 AM

Craig, I haven't looked at it but I don't think it will be suited for me. From what I have read, it is a bit cheap (although ok resolution). I want to buy a monitor that will last at least five years and I am unsure if the Ikan will.

Alan Craig · March 24th, 2008, 11:57 AM

Floris I could be wrong but I think that the IKAN comes with a 5 year warranty but check .

Alan

Kevin Martorana · March 24th, 2008, 04:19 PM

Floris...
I sent you these photos...due to a small "glitch" in posting...that's resolved.

Okay...

We use a Noga arm. Heavy weight one. If you're using a standard "sony style" camera plate...you'll have room at the end to attach the arm...then the monitor. If you're using the Canon plate...not so easy. It's too small to attach the arm.

Balancing is a bit tricky...but it works. This is good for studio shoots or tight areas.

We had the fine folks at Matthews make us this monitor adapter. It attaches to any C stand or light stand. You can tilt the monitor in just about any direction with ease. This was a "custom" job we made up at NAB last year. This was about 100.00 US. Honestly...we use this about 90% of the time. With the weight of an Anton Bauer (and we have the TrimPak 14's)...that monitor gets heavy. FYI ...I believe the Pana's come with Gold mounts from AB...standard.

Another suggestion...get a small portable powersupply if you go with the Panasonics. They have the 4 pin connectors for power. Not just a +/- tip plug. Usually you would use a camera power supply....but there are a few (I think) companies making small powersupplies.....think laptop power supply.

http://www.minipunch.com/ Makes one...and we've been happy with it....Lightweight and just plugs in. Saves alot of weight and battery power.

Hope this helps ! :)

Joe Batt · March 31st, 2008, 08:51 PM

I'm wondering, (I've never tried this but) What problems would you run into if you used your standard small lcd hd tv as a field monitor? especially if you had plenty of time and room to set up your shots. I'm thinking of buying one just for this purpose and putting it in a lightweight box frame so I can just turn it over when using a lens adapter. I know I must be overlooking something, what is it?

Floris van Eck · April 2nd, 2008, 03:05 AM

Joe, those monitors can be used for focussing and framing (I believe) but not for color calibration. Also, these LCD monitors you normally use for your computer do not have any focus assist/peaking options, nor do they have waveforms, so they are not completely up to the task. But for focussing, I guess they are perfect. The only thing is that most of the 1080p monitors are 24" so you will be dragging a big heavy monitor with you. And I doubt you are supposed to flip them but I might be wrong.

Joe Batt · April 4th, 2008, 11:30 PM

thanks for the insight, I never considered the posibility of damage caused by flipping it over. It's just an attractive idea because it's so cheap!

Floris van Eck · April 25th, 2008, 05:44 PM

I think I am going to buy the Carrion monitor as it has great resolution, great features and is half the price of the large Panasonic. That ones has a waveform monitor but that's about the only big advantage.

But now I have to find a way to mount this field monitor to the camera.

Does the Noga arm screw into a 1/4" mounting hole?

http://store.zacuto.com/product.php?...&cat=84&page=1

There are two free holes of the back of my Canon tripod adapter plate. If I can screw a Noga arm or Zacuto arm in one of those holes, I think I will be able to mount the camera there. Another option I am looking at at this moment is to buy a handheld Zacuto system but I am not sure how that will work for handheld. You get two grips, so you also need a lanc controller I guess in order to be able to use it handheld.

This is not as easy as I thought it would be.

Floris van Eck · May 4th, 2008, 04:27 AM

Kevin, does your Panasonic support 1080/25F? I am looking at the specifications of the BT-LH80W and it supports 1080/50i , 23,98Psf and 24Psf... is the 25F on the XL-H1 the same as 50i?

Kevin Martorana · May 4th, 2008, 09:02 PM

I believe only the LH 900 does...only with the sdi or hdsdi input...

I've attached the specs for the monitors with a jpg....

March 24th, 2008, 04:19 PM	#18
Kevin Martorana Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 250	Floris... I sent you these photos...due to a small "glitch" in posting...that's resolved. Okay... We use a Noga arm. Heavy weight one. If you're using a standard "sony style" camera plate...you'll have room at the end to attach the arm...then the monitor. If you're using the Canon plate...not so easy. It's too small to attach the arm. Balancing is a bit tricky...but it works. This is good for studio shoots or tight areas. We had the fine folks at Matthews make us this monitor adapter. It attaches to any C stand or light stand. You can tilt the monitor in just about any direction with ease. This was a "custom" job we made up at NAB last year. This was about 100.00 US. Honestly...we use this about 90% of the time. With the weight of an Anton Bauer (and we have the TrimPak 14's)...that monitor gets heavy. FYI ...I believe the Pana's come with Gold mounts from AB...standard. Another suggestion...get a small portable powersupply if you go with the Panasonics. They have the 4 pin connectors for power. Not just a +/- tip plug. Usually you would use a camera power supply....but there are a few (I think) companies making small powersupplies.....think laptop power supply. http://www.minipunch.com/ Makes one...and we've been happy with it....Lightweight and just plugs in. Saves alot of weight and battery power. Hope this helps ! :) Attached Thumbnails __________________ Shooting Video since 1/2" EIAJ reel to reel and editing on 2" QUAD machines. http://www.takeoneprod.com

May 4th, 2008, 09:02 PM	#24
Kevin Martorana Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 250	I believe only the LH 900 does...only with the sdi or hdsdi input... I've attached the specs for the monitors with a jpg.... Attached Thumbnails __________________ Shooting Video since 1/2" EIAJ reel to reel and editing on 2" QUAD machines. http://www.takeoneprod.com

March 24th, 2008, 09:09 AM	#16
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	Craig, I haven't looked at it but I don't think it will be suited for me. From what I have read, it is a bit cheap (although ok resolution). I want to buy a monitor that will last at least five years and I am unsure if the Ikan will.

March 24th, 2008, 11:57 AM	#17
Alan Craig Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Warrington England Posts: 143	Floris I could be wrong but I think that the IKAN comes with a 5 year warranty but check . Alan

March 31st, 2008, 08:51 PM	#19
Joe Batt Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Ranch, CA Posts: 106	I'm wondering, (I've never tried this but) What problems would you run into if you used your standard small lcd hd tv as a field monitor? especially if you had plenty of time and room to set up your shots. I'm thinking of buying one just for this purpose and putting it in a lightweight box frame so I can just turn it over when using a lens adapter. I know I must be overlooking something, what is it?

April 2nd, 2008, 03:05 AM	#20
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	Joe, those monitors can be used for focussing and framing (I believe) but not for color calibration. Also, these LCD monitors you normally use for your computer do not have any focus assist/peaking options, nor do they have waveforms, so they are not completely up to the task. But for focussing, I guess they are perfect. The only thing is that most of the 1080p monitors are 24" so you will be dragging a big heavy monitor with you. And I doubt you are supposed to flip them but I might be wrong.

April 4th, 2008, 11:30 PM	#21
Joe Batt Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Forest Ranch, CA Posts: 106	thanks for the insight, I never considered the posibility of damage caused by flipping it over. It's just an attractive idea because it's so cheap!

April 25th, 2008, 05:44 PM	#22
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	I think I am going to buy the Carrion monitor as it has great resolution, great features and is half the price of the large Panasonic. That ones has a waveform monitor but that's about the only big advantage. But now I have to find a way to mount this field monitor to the camera. Does the Noga arm screw into a 1/4" mounting hole? http://store.zacuto.com/product.php?...&cat=84&page=1 There are two free holes of the back of my Canon tripod adapter plate. If I can screw a Noga arm or Zacuto arm in one of those holes, I think I will be able to mount the camera there. Another option I am looking at at this moment is to buy a handheld Zacuto system but I am not sure how that will work for handheld. You get two grips, so you also need a lanc controller I guess in order to be able to use it handheld. This is not as easy as I thought it would be.

May 4th, 2008, 04:27 AM	#23
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	Kevin, does your Panasonic support 1080/25F? I am looking at the specifications of the BT-LH80W and it supports 1080/50i , 23,98Psf and 24Psf... is the 25F on the XL-H1 the same as 50i?