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Mike Leisegang · January 9th, 2008, 08:23 AM

Hi,

I have the standard 20x plus the new 6x Canon lenses for the XLH1.

I need to shoot some dentistry drill bits which are rather small.

On my Hasselblad I would use a set of three extension close-up tubes.

Any ideas for the XLH1 would be appreciated.

Mike.

Johan Forssblad · January 10th, 2008, 07:24 AM

Hi Mike,
The EF adapter and a Canon EF (for EOS camera) Macro lens. I guess you may also use extension tubes with the EF adapter and many different EF lenses.

There is also an adapter available at ebay for Hasselblad lens on a Canon EOS body. I have not tried it but then you should hopefully be able to put the Zeiss glass in front of the XL H1! Write if you try it! Could be exciting! Johan

Mike Leisegang · January 10th, 2008, 12:06 PM

Hi Johan,

Have spoken with my dealer re Hasselblad adapter to the XLH1 EF adapter if I'm correct.

Will get back when this is all up and running.

Hope the XLH1 itself does not reject this setup.

My stills website if you care to take a look.
mike-leisegang.com

Best regards

Mike.

Johan Forssblad · January 10th, 2008, 01:29 PM

Hi Mike,
There are a few slightly different adapter models on ebay, please see below or search ebay for "EOS Hasselblad". I also remember there was one adapter which supported one electric function from the EOS body but I cannot find it right now and I don't remember what it did.

I don't think many regular camera dealers have this adapter in stock. Ebay is probably the best place to find it.

You are going completely manual with aperture and focus of course. I think you have to try or calculate what will come out of this combination with the EF adapter too. With a 100 mm EF Macro lens and the EF adapter you can record butterflies from a meter away so you don't scare them. And if you put on your 55 mm Hasselblad extension tube and/or Canon EF extension you will get even closer and get an even more strange XL H1.

If you get the EF adapter you can cut a toilet paper roll and hold it between the Hasselblad lens and the EF adapter to just see what it will look like before you run away and spend money on the adapter.

Good luck with this interesting experiment! Please tell us the outcome!

BTW, you have done some really great car photograps! I liked them and I will tell a friend who photographs for Porsche in Sweden to have a look.
/Johan

For adapter example see this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hasselblad-V-L...sid=p1638.m118

or this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hasselblad-Len...sid=p1638.m118

or this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEU-Adapter-Ha...QQcmdZViewItem

Mike Leisegang · January 11th, 2008, 11:33 AM

Hi Johan,

Thanks for info and complement.

Will be in touch.

Mike.

Yeo Wee Han · January 12th, 2008, 08:17 AM

Hi Mike,

I use the H1 with Canon's 180 macro alot of the time for my nature subjects. You can get a shorter macro lens such as the Tamron 90 or Sigma 105 as that will relieve you the need to get a long lens support.

Take note that if you are pulling focus, you will need way more light as you will need to stay at a constant aperture which is about 5.6. You can get f/4.5 with the Canon 180 but as you focus closer, you lose light and its like a very bad iris-pulling effect.

Cheers

WeeHan

Mike Leisegang · January 16th, 2008, 10:23 AM

Hi Yeo.

Thanks for your input.

Mike.

Mike Leisegang · January 16th, 2008, 10:32 AM

Hi Johan,

Have just purchased adapter in Germany.

Will recieve on friday GMT.

Lens Mount Adapter for Hasselblad Lenses on Canon EOS EF-Bayonet Mount.

Compatible with every Hasselblad lens and every Canon EOS SLR or DSLR body. It is easy to attach and detach.

Have also purchased the XL adapter for EF and EOS lenses.

I hope the adapter will not short out the electrical circuit of the XLH1.

What do you think.

Best Regards

Mike.

Is this possible.

Johan Forssblad · January 16th, 2008, 10:43 AM

Hi Mike,
I don't think the "Hasselblad adapter" will short circuit those contacts on the front end of the Canon EF adapter XL. Otherwise it would short circuit the similar contacts on any Canon EOS body too. And those contacts need to be similar because they are made for the same EF lenses.

It will be interesting to hear how the picture quality will turn out with the combination. Remember to keep the XL H1 power switch off when you fiddle with the adapter and lenses. /Johan

Mike Leisegang · January 16th, 2008, 12:19 PM

Thanks Johan.

Will be in touch.

Mike.

Mike Leisegang · January 16th, 2008, 12:25 PM

Link to adapter site.

http://www.enjoyyourcamera.com/All-P...-20D::186.html

Mike.

Mike Leisegang · January 21st, 2008, 06:14 AM

Johan,

Right, connected XL adapter, Hasselblad to OES adapter plus lens to XLH1.

Red warning in viewfinder- incorrect lens. With no image.

I see the little red light on the XL adapter did not light up.

Best regards

Mike.

Mike Leisegang · January 21st, 2008, 05:10 PM

Hi Johan,

Sorry my post was so rushed this morning.

I have it working with an amazingly sharp image.

Widest hasselblad lens is a 40mm which when coupled with the XLH1 still on the longish side.

Full open stop at F4. Need a fair bit of light.

Very crisp image and narrow DOP.

No lens still flashing in viewfinder.

Lens weighs approx 1.4 Kg. Hope this is not to heavey.

Best regards,

Mike.

Ryan Avery · January 22nd, 2008, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Leisegang

Hi,

I have the standard 20x plus the new 6x Canon lenses for the XLH1.

I need to shoot some dentistry drill bits which are rather small.

On my Hasselblad I would use a set of three extension close-up tubes.

Any ideas for the XLH1 would be appreciated.

Mike.

There is always the diopter option as well. . .

http://www.schneideroptics.com/Ecomm...D=1081&IID=899

I can email a close-up diopter lens calculation file as well that will give you the minimum object distance with your various focus distances etc.

Ryan Avery
Schneider Optics

Mike Leisegang · January 23rd, 2008, 09:47 AM

Thanks Ryan,

That would be interesting to see.

The Hasselblad 40mm has a feature to focus as close as half a meter.

These lenses also give a very short DOF which is great and very sharp.

Will do a test also with a couple of extension tubes to see what I get.

When you think of it these old hasselblad lenses are very well priced today.

40mm and the longer say 200mm would need a bit of support.

Best regards

Mike.

January 9th, 2008, 08:23 AM	#1
Mike Leisegang Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 51	re Close up/Macro project Hi, I have the standard 20x plus the new 6x Canon lenses for the XLH1. I need to shoot some dentistry drill bits which are rather small. On my Hasselblad I would use a set of three extension close-up tubes. Any ideas for the XLH1 would be appreciated. Mike.

January 10th, 2008, 12:06 PM	#3
Mike Leisegang Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 51	re close up / macro Hi Johan, Have spoken with my dealer re Hasselblad adapter to the XLH1 EF adapter if I'm correct. Will get back when this is all up and running. Hope the XLH1 itself does not reject this setup. My stills website if you care to take a look. mike-leisegang.com Best regards Mike.

January 10th, 2008, 01:29 PM	#4
Johan Forssblad Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vittsjö, SKÅNE, SWEDEN Posts: 266	Hasselblad lens on an XL H1! (?) Hi Mike, There are a few slightly different adapter models on ebay, please see below or search ebay for "EOS Hasselblad". I also remember there was one adapter which supported one electric function from the EOS body but I cannot find it right now and I don't remember what it did. I don't think many regular camera dealers have this adapter in stock. Ebay is probably the best place to find it. You are going completely manual with aperture and focus of course. I think you have to try or calculate what will come out of this combination with the EF adapter too. With a 100 mm EF Macro lens and the EF adapter you can record butterflies from a meter away so you don't scare them. And if you put on your 55 mm Hasselblad extension tube and/or Canon EF extension you will get even closer and get an even more strange XL H1. If you get the EF adapter you can cut a toilet paper roll and hold it between the Hasselblad lens and the EF adapter to just see what it will look like before you run away and spend money on the adapter. Good luck with this interesting experiment! Please tell us the outcome! BTW, you have done some really great car photograps! I liked them and I will tell a friend who photographs for Porsche in Sweden to have a look. /Johan For adapter example see this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hasselblad-V-L...sid=p1638.m118 or this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hasselblad-Len...sid=p1638.m118 or this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEU-Adapter-Ha...QQcmdZViewItem

January 10th, 2008, 07:24 AM	#2
Johan Forssblad Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vittsjö, SKÅNE, SWEDEN Posts: 266	Hi Mike, The EF adapter and a Canon EF (for EOS camera) Macro lens. I guess you may also use extension tubes with the EF adapter and many different EF lenses. There is also an adapter available at ebay for Hasselblad lens on a Canon EOS body. I have not tried it but then you should hopefully be able to put the Zeiss glass in front of the XL H1! Write if you try it! Could be exciting! Johan

January 11th, 2008, 11:33 AM	#5
Mike Leisegang Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 51	Hi Johan, Thanks for info and complement. Will be in touch. Mike.

January 12th, 2008, 08:17 AM	#6
Yeo Wee Han Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 155	Hi Mike, I use the H1 with Canon's 180 macro alot of the time for my nature subjects. You can get a shorter macro lens such as the Tamron 90 or Sigma 105 as that will relieve you the need to get a long lens support. Take note that if you are pulling focus, you will need way more light as you will need to stay at a constant aperture which is about 5.6. You can get f/4.5 with the Canon 180 but as you focus closer, you lose light and its like a very bad iris-pulling effect. Cheers WeeHan

January 16th, 2008, 10:23 AM	#7
Mike Leisegang Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 51	Hi Yeo. Thanks for your input. Mike.

January 16th, 2008, 10:32 AM	#8
Mike Leisegang Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 51	Hi Johan, Have just purchased adapter in Germany. Will recieve on friday GMT. Lens Mount Adapter for Hasselblad Lenses on Canon EOS EF-Bayonet Mount. Compatible with every Hasselblad lens and every Canon EOS SLR or DSLR body. It is easy to attach and detach. Have also purchased the XL adapter for EF and EOS lenses. I hope the adapter will not short out the electrical circuit of the XLH1. What do you think. Best Regards Mike. Is this possible.

January 16th, 2008, 10:43 AM	#9
Johan Forssblad Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vittsjö, SKÅNE, SWEDEN Posts: 266	Hi Mike, I don't think the "Hasselblad adapter" will short circuit those contacts on the front end of the Canon EF adapter XL. Otherwise it would short circuit the similar contacts on any Canon EOS body too. And those contacts need to be similar because they are made for the same EF lenses. It will be interesting to hear how the picture quality will turn out with the combination. Remember to keep the XL H1 power switch off when you fiddle with the adapter and lenses. /Johan

January 16th, 2008, 12:19 PM	#10
Mike Leisegang Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 51	Thanks Johan. Will be in touch. Mike.

January 16th, 2008, 12:25 PM	#11
Mike Leisegang Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 51	Link to adapter site. http://www.enjoyyourcamera.com/All-P...-20D::186.html Mike.

January 21st, 2008, 06:14 AM	#12
Mike Leisegang Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 51	Johan, Right, connected XL adapter, Hasselblad to OES adapter plus lens to XLH1. Red warning in viewfinder- incorrect lens. With no image. I see the little red light on the XL adapter did not light up. Best regards Mike.

January 21st, 2008, 05:10 PM	#13
Mike Leisegang Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 51	Hi Johan, Sorry my post was so rushed this morning. I have it working with an amazingly sharp image. Widest hasselblad lens is a 40mm which when coupled with the XLH1 still on the longish side. Full open stop at F4. Need a fair bit of light. Very crisp image and narrow DOP. No lens still flashing in viewfinder. Lens weighs approx 1.4 Kg. Hope this is not to heavey. Best regards, Mike.

January 23rd, 2008, 09:47 AM	#15
Mike Leisegang Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 51	Thanks Ryan, That would be interesting to see. The Hasselblad 40mm has a feature to focus as close as half a meter. These lenses also give a very short DOF which is great and very sharp. Will do a test also with a couple of extension tubes to see what I get. When you think of it these old hasselblad lenses are very well priced today. 40mm and the longer say 200mm would need a bit of support. Best regards Mike.