Wedding Slowmotion at DVinfo.net

Gian Carlo · December 7th, 2007, 11:39 AM

WEDDING SLOWMOTION WITH xlh1 and STEADYCAM HERE www.creazionivideo.net/wedding.mpeg

Oleg Kalyan · December 7th, 2007, 12:33 PM

Very nice, which stedicam you've used, good editing!

Gian Carlo · December 7th, 2007, 01:18 PM

glidecam 4000 pro with smoothshooter,edited in final cut

www.creazionivideo.net

Oleg Kalyan · December 9th, 2007, 03:16 AM

Thank you, are you happy with your stedicam or would you get something else , which wide angle lens on it?

Dave Gosley · December 10th, 2007, 06:59 AM

Hi Gian

Great choice of music for the background, it really sets it off well. How do you get a license - or pay for your license to add the music tracks you have chosen ? Do you buy an aannual MCPS license or do you pay a fee per track used and then per copy of DVD made?

Cheers
Dave

Christopher Glaeser · December 11th, 2007, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Gosley

How do you get a license

That's the first thing I noticed. I'd be interested in knowing how to get a license too. How much did it cost for each track?

Best,
Christopher

Oleg Kalyan · December 11th, 2007, 02:36 PM

It was discussed on other forums, you do not really need a license, if it's a DVD for personal usage. Wedding falls in this category I think, there is no financial gain.

Christopher Glaeser · December 11th, 2007, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg Kalyan

you do not really need a license, if it's a DVD for personal usage. Wedding falls in this category I think, there is no financial gain.

Personal usage? I'm confused. What is "Veddings"? That sounds a lot like "Weddings", as in the plural of wedding. Is this a personal site for someone that has been married multiple times, or is this a commercial site for wedding videos?

Best,
Christopher

Dave Gosley · December 12th, 2007, 03:17 AM

Hi Oleg
Agreeably, for no financial gain there possibly is a viable excuse to negate paying royalties. However, as I see it Gian has made this video for a client and is adertising that he makes video's for clients so it would be fair to assume he is not doing this on a free basis.

If he is doing this on a commercial basis - it automatically invokes a license scenario - and that is the message I get from his site.

Incidentally, I would also believe that in the event of bulk duplication - even on a free basis you would be looking at a licensing scenario.

I would also contend that the "slowmo" with glidecam - actually appears in certain clips to be a "quickermo" with glidecam or am I looking at the wrong film?

Oleg Kalyan · December 12th, 2007, 05:33 AM

I found the thread talking about this matter
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...usic+copyright

From what I understand, if the couple paid for the CD and ask videographer use it in their wedding film, it's OK if they use it later in privacy of their home screenings. If he uses it as to post on this or other site, it not OK, because he
promotes himself for possible financial gain. What if the post contains a link to a band name, Amazon shopping cart, etc, that is a cross promotion for the artist for artists financial gain?

Correct me if I am wrong.

Dave Gosley · December 14th, 2007, 06:58 AM

When choosing a music track for your product you in fact make a statement - in effect that you like that artists work so juch you want to enjoy it within your production.

Don't want to get heavily involved in semantics here as most know what they are doing when they are doing it. We can argue the toss for a year and still have differeing opinions at the end of it.

From what I see of his site and the way the work is put to use - I believe in this instance he needs one and possibly two things.
1. to license the music
2. To place credits for the music at the end of the production?

Kaushik Parmar · April 13th, 2008, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gian Carlo

WEDDING SLOWMOTION WITH xlh1 and STEADYCAM HERE www.creazionivideo.net/wedding.mpeg

Gian Carlo,

I have seen your Wedding Slowmotion clip, it is fantastic, the colours are very sotthing to eyes! I have recently made one wedding party video, here is link if you want to see it: http://vimeo.com/771305

Kaushik

Allen Plowman · April 13th, 2008, 08:56 PM

Please keep in mind, copyright varies from country to country. from what I understand, the United Kingdom can purchase rights to a track for each video. the United States has no provisions, and if you use the copyright protected music, you are in violation of the law. I have no clue about Russia. I also could be wrong about all of this, but i did notice there are at least three different countries trying to discuss copyright issues in this thread.

December 7th, 2007, 11:39 AM	#1
Gian Carlo New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6	Wedding Slowmotion WEDDING SLOWMOTION WITH xlh1 and STEADYCAM HERE www.creazionivideo.net/wedding.mpeg

December 10th, 2007, 06:59 AM	#5
Dave Gosley Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hampshire Posts: 226	Background Music Hi Gian Great choice of music for the background, it really sets it off well. How do you get a license - or pay for your license to add the music tracks you have chosen ? Do you buy an aannual MCPS license or do you pay a fee per track used and then per copy of DVD made? Cheers Dave __________________ http://www.videoproductionshampshire.co.uk

December 12th, 2007, 03:17 AM	#9
Dave Gosley Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hampshire Posts: 226	No financial gain versus... Hi Oleg Agreeably, for no financial gain there possibly is a viable excuse to negate paying royalties. However, as I see it Gian has made this video for a client and is adertising that he makes video's for clients so it would be fair to assume he is not doing this on a free basis. If he is doing this on a commercial basis - it automatically invokes a license scenario - and that is the message I get from his site. Incidentally, I would also believe that in the event of bulk duplication - even on a free basis you would be looking at a licensing scenario. I would also contend that the "slowmo" with glidecam - actually appears in certain clips to be a "quickermo" with glidecam or am I looking at the wrong film? __________________ http://www.videoproductionshampshire.co.uk

December 14th, 2007, 06:58 AM	#11
Dave Gosley Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hampshire Posts: 226	As I understand it When choosing a music track for your product you in fact make a statement - in effect that you like that artists work so juch you want to enjoy it within your production. Don't want to get heavily involved in semantics here as most know what they are doing when they are doing it. We can argue the toss for a year and still have differeing opinions at the end of it. From what I see of his site and the way the work is put to use - I believe in this instance he needs one and possibly two things. 1. to license the music 2. To place credits for the music at the end of the production? __________________ http://www.videoproductionshampshire.co.uk

April 13th, 2008, 08:56 PM	#13
Allen Plowman Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Paradise, california Posts: 353	Please keep in mind, copyright varies from country to country. from what I understand, the United Kingdom can purchase rights to a track for each video. the United States has no provisions, and if you use the copyright protected music, you are in violation of the law. I have no clue about Russia. I also could be wrong about all of this, but i did notice there are at least three different countries trying to discuss copyright issues in this thread. __________________ "What I need is an exact list of specific unknown problems we might encounter."

December 7th, 2007, 12:33 PM	#2
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	Very nice, which stedicam you've used, good editing!

December 7th, 2007, 01:18 PM	#3
Gian Carlo New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6	glidecam 4000 pro with smoothshooter,edited in final cut www.creazionivideo.net

December 9th, 2007, 03:16 AM	#4
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	Thank you, are you happy with your stedicam or would you get something else , which wide angle lens on it?

December 11th, 2007, 02:36 PM	#7
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	It was discussed on other forums, you do not really need a license, if it's a DVD for personal usage. Wedding falls in this category I think, there is no financial gain.

December 12th, 2007, 05:33 AM	#10
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	I found the thread talking about this matter http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...usic+copyright From what I understand, if the couple paid for the CD and ask videographer use it in their wedding film, it's OK if they use it later in privacy of their home screenings. If he uses it as to post on this or other site, it not OK, because he promotes himself for possible financial gain. What if the post contains a link to a band name, Amazon shopping cart, etc, that is a cross promotion for the artist for artists financial gain? Correct me if I am wrong.