HV20 and 4 channel audio? at DVinfo.net

Stephen Eastwood · September 21st, 2007, 04:25 PM

I was curious I have not shot in 4 channel on the XLH1 yet, but if I do can the HV20 which I use as a deck play it back to my system? I think I read a mention that the HV10 can so I would assume the HV20 can, but logical assumptions tend to be misguided with the state of technology now-a-days.

Chris Hurd · September 21st, 2007, 06:15 PM

Hi Stephen,

Yes it will support 4-channel audio playback. You can even adjust the output balance between the two stereo pairs. See page 41 of the HV20 operator's manual under Audio Out. Hope this helps,

Stephen Eastwood · September 22nd, 2007, 12:56 AM

Great thought it would, just asking to make sure. Thanks.

Joachim Hoge · December 12th, 2007, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Hi Stephen,

Yes it will support 4-channel audio playback. You can even adjust the output balance between the two stereo pairs. See page 41 of the HV20 operator's manual under Audio Out. Hope this helps,

I can´t make it work!
I shot 4CH audio with my H1 and I´m trying to capture it using the HV20 (I bought today) as a deck.
Even if I have the play back set to Stereo 2 I only manage to capture track 1 & 2. I have the camera mic there and wireless mic´s on 3 & 4.
I even hear track 3 & 4 from the HV20, but FC captures track 1 & 2.
From what it looks like, I can only set the tracks for the AV/mic mini jack port and not the firewire port.
It looks like I have to capture the sound seperatly from the AV out. It´s a real pain as I have rented out my camera and have to capture 3 tapes by tomorrow.
Are you sure this work as you said Chris?

I don´t have the English manual here with me, just a Swedish one (and I´m Norwegian, but understands most of it)

Chris Hurd · December 12th, 2007, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joachim Hoge

Are you sure this work as you said Chris?

I said the HV20 camcorder supports four-channel audio playback.

However I didn't make any promises about Final Cut Pro. You'll need to search our NLE / Mac forum for instructions about capturing four-channel audio.

Joachim Hoge · December 12th, 2007, 02:44 PM

Ok Chris.
I see what you wrote now, and please don´t think I blame you for my troubles.
I bought the HV20 before reading this thread as I really need it as a deck.
I usually never use more than 2 channels for audio, so it won´t be a problem.
I tried using Avid earlier today without luck, but I´m no editor so maybe it´s a way of doing it.

If anyone else reads this thread at al later point I think this is the way I´ll make it work:
I will hook up my HV20 to a Sony deck tomorrow and make a copy over firewire AND use a mini jack to stereo cable from the AV/mic port on the camera to the audio in port on the Sony deck.
I think this will work.

Kevin Martorana · December 12th, 2007, 08:11 PM

the only way I' ve been ablbe to make 4ch. audio work (in AVID or FCP) is to capture twice....then sync the 4 channels together....

Joachim Hoge · December 13th, 2007, 01:00 AM

Hi Kevin
Thanks for clearing that up. I had decided to do either that or use the deck.
No point using the deck to make a new copy of 4 channels if I´m only able to capture 2 at a time.
Thankfully it´s only 2h15min worth of footage.

Joachim Hoge · December 13th, 2007, 01:40 PM

Quick up date

In the end I went to the production house today and made a copy of the taps over component in to a DV deck and only laying track 3 & 4. (the wireless microphones).

I had to use the AV/Phones port for sound as I never managed to get track 3 & 4 out over firewire.

And we had to capture twice

Kevin Martorana · December 13th, 2007, 05:52 PM

OOOPs...forgot to mention that...
3/4 don't go down the firewire...only come out the analog outputs..

and yeahhhh.....capture twice.

HEY...you can do 4 ch. audio....just not all at once !!! ;)

Joachim Hoge · December 14th, 2007, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Martorana

OOOPs...forgot to mention that...
3/4 don't go down the firewire...only come out the analog outputs..

and yeahhhh.....capture twice.

HEY...you can do 4 ch. audio....just not all at once !!! ;)

Hi Kevin
Does this apply to the H1 as well? I don´t have my camera to test it as it´s rented out

Vence Vida · December 14th, 2007, 12:52 AM

I know the question was posed to Kevin, but I hope he won't be offended if I answer:

Yes, the same is true of the H1. Channels 1&2 only via firewire. 3&4 have to be captured analogue.

-Vence

Joachim Hoge · December 14th, 2007, 01:17 AM

Thanks Vence,
I´m sure he won´t be offended, and I thank you for a quick answer.

September 21st, 2007, 04:25 PM	#1
Stephen Eastwood Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Great Neck, NY Posts: 291	HV20 and 4 channel audio? I was curious I have not shot in 4 channel on the XLH1 yet, but if I do can the HV20 which I use as a deck play it back to my system? I think I read a mention that the HV10 can so I would assume the HV20 can, but logical assumptions tend to be misguided with the state of technology now-a-days.

September 21st, 2007, 06:15 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Hi Stephen, Yes it will support 4-channel audio playback. You can even adjust the output balance between the two stereo pairs. See page 41 of the HV20 operator's manual under Audio Out. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

December 14th, 2007, 12:52 AM	#12
Vence Vida Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 218	I know the question was posed to Kevin, but I hope he won't be offended if I answer: Yes, the same is true of the H1. Channels 1&2 only via firewire. 3&4 have to be captured analogue. -Vence __________________ Sony PMW-EX1R, Canon XL H1, XHG1, Panasonic GH2, Mac Pro 3.2 Quad running FCPS 3, FCPX, & Adobe Creative Cloud CC www.creativejuicesvideo.com

September 22nd, 2007, 12:56 AM	#3
Stephen Eastwood Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Great Neck, NY Posts: 291	Great thought it would, just asking to make sure. Thanks.

December 12th, 2007, 02:44 PM	#6
Joachim Hoge Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 402	Ok Chris. I see what you wrote now, and please don´t think I blame you for my troubles. I bought the HV20 before reading this thread as I really need it as a deck. I usually never use more than 2 channels for audio, so it won´t be a problem. I tried using Avid earlier today without luck, but I´m no editor so maybe it´s a way of doing it. If anyone else reads this thread at al later point I think this is the way I´ll make it work: I will hook up my HV20 to a Sony deck tomorrow and make a copy over firewire AND use a mini jack to stereo cable from the AV/mic port on the camera to the audio in port on the Sony deck. I think this will work.

December 12th, 2007, 08:11 PM	#7
Kevin Martorana Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 250	the only way I' ve been ablbe to make 4ch. audio work (in AVID or FCP) is to capture twice....then sync the 4 channels together....

December 13th, 2007, 01:00 AM	#8
Joachim Hoge Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 402	Hi Kevin Thanks for clearing that up. I had decided to do either that or use the deck. No point using the deck to make a new copy of 4 channels if I´m only able to capture 2 at a time. Thankfully it´s only 2h15min worth of footage.

December 13th, 2007, 01:40 PM	#9
Joachim Hoge Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 402	Quick up date In the end I went to the production house today and made a copy of the taps over component in to a DV deck and only laying track 3 & 4. (the wireless microphones). I had to use the AV/Phones port for sound as I never managed to get track 3 & 4 out over firewire. And we had to capture twice

December 13th, 2007, 05:52 PM	#10
Kevin Martorana Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 250	OOOPs...forgot to mention that... 3/4 don't go down the firewire...only come out the analog outputs.. and yeahhhh.....capture twice. HEY...you can do 4 ch. audio....just not all at once !!! ;)

December 14th, 2007, 01:17 AM	#13
Joachim Hoge Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 402	Thanks Vence, I´m sure he won´t be offended, and I thank you for a quick answer.