Best setting for a commercial at DVinfo.net

Edgar Dubrovskiy · June 14th, 2007, 12:41 PM

Hi! I have bought XL2 in March - still playing with settings.
Would like your professional advice:

What would be the best setting (shutter, app, gain etc.) for shooting a commercial for a college (high school). Shot both indors and outdors. Would be great to have a good contrast. I will shoot in 25i frame rate. However unsure about the shutter - 25 or 50? What do you think?

Tim Harjo · June 15th, 2007, 03:29 AM

I would have to say at least 50. At 25, your images will blur with hardly any movement. At 50, your shutter speed will closely resemble that of film shutter speed. If the light will allow, you can go for more than 50 if you want more of a "video" look rather than a "film" look. You can also go over 50 if you are going to play back the shot in slow motion.

You may not get a lot of responses here. Try using the search function. If you get creative, you will certainly find threads that contain presets others have used for various shootings.

David H. Castillo · June 15th, 2007, 03:17 PM

Tim

50i fps and 25p fps both have there unique looks with different pre sets. The link below is to footage that I shoot with a NTSC XL2 in 24p, 30p, & 60i, however the presets will yield the same look with your PAL XL2. Let me know which piece you gravitate to and I will post the settings

http://www.bluebarnpictures.com/english/works/

Cheers

David H. Castillo · June 15th, 2007, 03:31 PM

I mean Edgar, sorry its been a long day

Peter Erfurt · June 15th, 2007, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David H Castillo

Tim

The link below is to footage that I shoot with a NTSC XL2 in 24p, 30p, & 60i, however the presets will yield the same look with your PAL XL2.

Allow me to chime in here - what settings did you use for the TV Drama piece - liked the mood a lot!

Peter in Denmark

David H. Castillo · June 19th, 2007, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Erfurt

Allow me to chime in here - what settings did you use for the TV Drama piece - liked the mood a lot!

Peter in Denmark

Peter

Tv Drama Settings were as followed and of course alot of lights

24P 1/48 shutter PAL 25P 1/50 shutter
F 2.8 20x OIS lens

Gamma-Cine
Knee-Low
Black- Middle
Color matrix-normal
Color Gain-middle
Colour phase- middle
R gain-middle
G grain-middle
B grain-middle
V detail-Normal
Sharpness-middle
Coring-middle
Setup- -2
Master Ped- -2
NR-Off

Jasmine Marie Adams · June 19th, 2007, 05:32 PM

Thanks for the link, David! What are the stills from? The one with the woman looking over her shoulder is lovely. I was also quite struck by the richness of the first video

I'd be very interested in any more settings you have to offer, especially if you could link them to a still or video. (I'm keeping a journal of settings with notes. Hopefully this will help me tweak to create new ones that do what I want them to).

Peter Erfurt · June 19th, 2007, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David H Castillo

Peter

Tv Drama Settings were as followed and of course alot of lights

24P 1/48 shutter PAL 25P 1/50 shutter
F 2.8 20x OIS lens

Gamma-Cine
Knee-Low
Black- Middle
Color matrix-normal
Color Gain-middle
Colour phase- middle
R gain-middle
G grain-middle
B grain-middle
V detail-Normal
Sharpness-middle
Coring-middle
Setup- -2
Master Ped- -2
NR-Off

Thanks a million, David, I'll try them!

Kind regards

Peter

June 14th, 2007, 12:41 PM	#1
Edgar Dubrovskiy New Boot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London Posts: 11	Best setting for a commercial Hi! I have bought XL2 in March - still playing with settings. Would like your professional advice: What would be the best setting (shutter, app, gain etc.) for shooting a commercial for a college (high school). Shot both indors and outdors. Would be great to have a good contrast. I will shoot in 25i frame rate. However unsure about the shutter - 25 or 50? What do you think?

June 15th, 2007, 03:29 AM	#2
Tim Harjo Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 195	I would have to say at least 50. At 25, your images will blur with hardly any movement. At 50, your shutter speed will closely resemble that of film shutter speed. If the light will allow, you can go for more than 50 if you want more of a "video" look rather than a "film" look. You can also go over 50 if you are going to play back the shot in slow motion. You may not get a lot of responses here. Try using the search function. If you get creative, you will certainly find threads that contain presets others have used for various shootings.

June 15th, 2007, 03:17 PM	#3
David H. Castillo Cinematographer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 152	Tim 50i fps and 25p fps both have there unique looks with different pre sets. The link below is to footage that I shoot with a NTSC XL2 in 24p, 30p, & 60i, however the presets will yield the same look with your PAL XL2. Let me know which piece you gravitate to and I will post the settings http://www.bluebarnpictures.com/english/works/ Cheers

June 15th, 2007, 03:31 PM	#4
David H. Castillo Cinematographer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 152	I mean Edgar, sorry its been a long day

June 19th, 2007, 05:32 PM	#7
Jasmine Marie Adams New Boot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Perth Western Australia Posts: 38	Thanks for the link, David! What are the stills from? The one with the woman looking over her shoulder is lovely. I was also quite struck by the richness of the first video I'd be very interested in any more settings you have to offer, especially if you could link them to a still or video. (I'm keeping a journal of settings with notes. Hopefully this will help me tweak to create new ones that do what I want them to).