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Scott Welch · April 27th, 2007, 02:57 PM

Well I turn up the gain, but it just adds to the noise... =\ Any suggestions, please?

Jack Barker · April 28th, 2007, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Welch

Well I turn up the gain, but it just adds to the noise... =\ Any suggestions, please?

Personally, I hate gain noise so much, I never use it, but there are other ways to get more light into the XL2. Open the iris up. Turn off Neutral Density filters.

Mike Teutsch · April 28th, 2007, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Welch

Well I turn up the gain, but it just adds to the noise... =\ Any suggestions, please?

Add light! Other than that, gain is your only option, short of getting a large CCD ENG type camera.

Mike

Ash Greyson · April 29th, 2007, 10:15 PM

Several things... when you gain up, also turn up the coring, it will mask the noise. You may also need to boost the color saturation a little as low light can be very muted. Next thing, stretch the blacks. After that, try upping the setup level and lastly you can up the master pedestal. The XL2 can pull a lot of detail out of shadows but it can result in pretty noisy, milky images if you are not careful.

ash =o)

Ervin Farkas · April 30th, 2007, 03:39 PM

Ash, would you please explain two of the terms you used? What is coring, and what is black stretch - I can't find any info on these two.

Mike Teutsch · April 30th, 2007, 04:29 PM

Ervin,

Before you ask anymore questions, go to this site and downloaad and watch the XL2 Features Tour. It will answer many of your questions and is a must for any Canon user. It is about a half hour long and is one of the best instructional videos I've ever seen. Download it, save it and watch it many many times!

http://www.dvcreators.net/canon-xl2/

Mike

Kyle Ross · April 30th, 2007, 08:46 PM

Yeah, absolutely. That video is amazing. About halfway through, some time after the lens bit is over you'll get all sorts of info on lighting, some of it on how to get good lighting in a dark place without overdoing the grain. The rest is really good too.

Scott Welch · May 1st, 2007, 04:56 PM

It says that the destination of the .mov file does not exist. Does anyone know where I could download it?

Ash Greyson · May 1st, 2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ervin Farkas

Ash, would you please explain two of the terms you used? What is coring, and what is black stretch - I can't find any info on these two.

Coring is a fine detail setting, originally intended to cover small tight patterns but has grown into a noise adjustment. Turning it UP will cut down on fine detail, which will reduce noise. Some higher end cameras allow you to do it for every color. Black stretch is in the menu, default for BLACK is middle, stretch brings out detail in shadowy areas...

ash =o)

Jonathan Kirsch · May 2nd, 2007, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Welch

It says that the destination of the .mov file does not exist. Does anyone know where I could download it?

See Nic's post in this link (towards the bottom).

Jonathan

Scott Welch · May 2nd, 2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Kirsch

See Nic's post in this link (towards the bottom).

Jonathan

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The requested URL /canon/DemoMovie/XL2_demo_tour.mov was not found on this server.

Jonathan Kirsch · May 2nd, 2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Welch

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The requested URL /canon/DemoMovie/XL2_demo_tour.mov was not found on this server.

Yeah, I know. It took me about 15 tries over a couple days to finally get it to work. Don't know why...Nic hasn't responded to any of my posts or e-mails. What browser are you using? (Though I don't think that has anything to do with it.)

Jonathan

April 27th, 2007, 02:57 PM	#1
Scott Welch Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 27	Making a dark place light.. Well I turn up the gain, but it just adds to the noise... =\ Any suggestions, please?

April 30th, 2007, 03:39 PM	#5
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	Ash, would you please explain two of the terms you used? What is coring, and what is black stretch - I can't find any info on these two. __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

April 30th, 2007, 04:29 PM	#6
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	Ervin, Before you ask anymore questions, go to this site and downloaad and watch the XL2 Features Tour. It will answer many of your questions and is a must for any Canon user. It is about a half hour long and is one of the best instructional videos I've ever seen. Download it, save it and watch it many many times! http://www.dvcreators.net/canon-xl2/ Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

April 29th, 2007, 10:15 PM	#4
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	Several things... when you gain up, also turn up the coring, it will mask the noise. You may also need to boost the color saturation a little as low light can be very muted. Next thing, stretch the blacks. After that, try upping the setup level and lastly you can up the master pedestal. The XL2 can pull a lot of detail out of shadows but it can result in pretty noisy, milky images if you are not careful. ash =o)

April 30th, 2007, 08:46 PM	#7
Kyle Ross Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, British Columbia Posts: 48	Yeah, absolutely. That video is amazing. About halfway through, some time after the lens bit is over you'll get all sorts of info on lighting, some of it on how to get good lighting in a dark place without overdoing the grain. The rest is really good too.

May 1st, 2007, 04:56 PM	#8
Scott Welch Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 27	It says that the destination of the .mov file does not exist. Does anyone know where I could download it?