Should I get an XL2? at DVinfo.net

Ernesto Llano · August 4th, 2006, 01:32 PM

I'm a junior in high school but I will be getting a job this year so I can get a better camera. I'm guessing I will make about 3,000 dollars during this year and I'd like to get a camera with this money.

So I'm starting to think about which camera I want so I know how much money I'll need, do some research, etc.

So I've read a few of the SD vs. HD threads and it doesn't help me solve my problem because I'm in a different situation than most people. I won't be using this for weddings or events. I'll mostly use this to shoot short films, submit to festivals, maybe do a commercial, a birthday party for a friend. Also, this camera is what I will take to film school when I'm done with high school.

So I think the XL2 would be a good choice for me because it has very professional features that are absent on the HD cameras around the same price like the FX1. However, since this is what I'll be taking to film school, and I need it to last a few years I don't know if I should sacrifice 24p, lenses, and all the customizable options of the XL2 in order to start out in HD. However, if I did get the FX1 I would end up editing in MiniDV anyway because I don't have the computer power to edit HDV.

So do you guys think the XL2 would be the right choice?

PS: Although this is the XL2 forum, I'd really appreciate some unbiased advice.

Thanks

Mark Bournes · August 4th, 2006, 01:40 PM

Based on what you've said, absolutely. You'll like the fact that you can change lenses.

Eb Samba · August 4th, 2006, 04:06 PM

Ernesto
If you want the options of 24p, 16:9 aspect ratio, removable lenses and customzable presets, and looking to spend $3k to $5k then XL2 should be the choice. My reseach for a camcorder lasted 6 months before buying the XL2. After using it for almost a year, I have no regret. This is just my opinion.
Try watching the DV Creators XL2 Feature Tour. This is the link it should help you understand the capabilities of the XL2.
http://www.dvcreator.net/media/demos...aturetour.html
Eb

Jarrod Whaley · August 4th, 2006, 04:14 PM

Definitely XL2. You'll be able to learn a lot more about shooting since you'll have all the manual controls. The things you'll be able to learn will most definitely carry over into the future when you do go to HD--maybe when HD cameras that offer this level of image control are a bit more affordable, and when HD distribution has become more viable than it is right now.

Ernesto Llano · August 4th, 2006, 04:31 PM

What about the DVX-100?

I had completely forgotten about this camera. Seems similar to the XL2 except with no interchangeable lenses. Which of the two do you think would be better for me?

Mike Teutsch · August 4th, 2006, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernesto Llano

What about the DVX-100?

I had completely forgotten about this camera. Seems similar to the XL2 except with no interchangeable lenses. Which of the two do you think would be better for me?

Lens options and many other things make the XL2 a better choice, but in the long run it is all up to you. Price is always a consideration.

Mike

Per Johan Naesje · August 4th, 2006, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ernesto Llano

What about the DVX-100?

I had completely forgotten about this camera. Seems similar to the XL2 except with no interchangeable lenses. Which of the two do you think would be better for me?

One more thing: The DVX100 is 4:3 only, although it has a built-in letterboxing mask. XL2 gives you true 16:9 mode.

Allen McLaughlin · August 5th, 2006, 04:26 AM

XL-2 wins hands down....

Get used to cameras with manual focus, manual iris, manual white balance, manual everything, changeable lenses, a decent viewfinder, decent audio options, is upgradeable, can be used flexibly and professionally.

My view of HD is that it's not quite there yet, but maybe next year...?

That's what I'd do if I was going to film school and was perhaps looking for a career in the film business...

Mark Sasahara · August 7th, 2006, 08:41 AM

Get a DVX 100A.

August 4th, 2006, 01:32 PM	#1
Ernesto Llano Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 39	Should I get an XL2? I'm a junior in high school but I will be getting a job this year so I can get a better camera. I'm guessing I will make about 3,000 dollars during this year and I'd like to get a camera with this money. So I'm starting to think about which camera I want so I know how much money I'll need, do some research, etc. So I've read a few of the SD vs. HD threads and it doesn't help me solve my problem because I'm in a different situation than most people. I won't be using this for weddings or events. I'll mostly use this to shoot short films, submit to festivals, maybe do a commercial, a birthday party for a friend. Also, this camera is what I will take to film school when I'm done with high school. So I think the XL2 would be a good choice for me because it has very professional features that are absent on the HD cameras around the same price like the FX1. However, since this is what I'll be taking to film school, and I need it to last a few years I don't know if I should sacrifice 24p, lenses, and all the customizable options of the XL2 in order to start out in HD. However, if I did get the FX1 I would end up editing in MiniDV anyway because I don't have the computer power to edit HDV. So do you guys think the XL2 would be the right choice? PS: Although this is the XL2 forum, I'd really appreciate some unbiased advice. Thanks

August 4th, 2006, 01:40 PM	#2
Mark Bournes Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jupiter, FL Posts: 565	Based on what you've said, absolutely. You'll like the fact that you can change lenses. __________________ Mark www.sharkvp.com

August 4th, 2006, 04:14 PM	#4
Jarrod Whaley Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: chattanooga, tn Posts: 721	Definitely XL2. You'll be able to learn a lot more about shooting since you'll have all the manual controls. The things you'll be able to learn will most definitely carry over into the future when you do go to HD--maybe when HD cameras that offer this level of image control are a bit more affordable, and when HD distribution has become more viable than it is right now. __________________ -->jarrod whaley. www.oakstreetfilms.com

August 5th, 2006, 04:26 AM	#8
Allen McLaughlin Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Paisley, Scotland UK Posts: 99	XL-2 wins hands down.... Get used to cameras with manual focus, manual iris, manual white balance, manual everything, changeable lenses, a decent viewfinder, decent audio options, is upgradeable, can be used flexibly and professionally. My view of HD is that it's not quite there yet, but maybe next year...? That's what I'd do if I was going to film school and was perhaps looking for a career in the film business... __________________ http://www.myspace.com/theeejit

August 7th, 2006, 08:41 AM	#9
Mark Sasahara Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 649	Get a DVX 100A. __________________ Mark Sasahara Director of Photography

August 4th, 2006, 04:06 PM	#3
Eb Samba Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Providence,RI Posts: 26	Ernesto If you want the options of 24p, 16:9 aspect ratio, removable lenses and customzable presets, and looking to spend $3k to $5k then XL2 should be the choice. My reseach for a camcorder lasted 6 months before buying the XL2. After using it for almost a year, I have no regret. This is just my opinion. Try watching the DV Creators XL2 Feature Tour. This is the link it should help you understand the capabilities of the XL2. http://www.dvcreator.net/media/demos...aturetour.html Eb

August 4th, 2006, 04:31 PM	#5
Ernesto Llano Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 39	What about the DVX-100? I had completely forgotten about this camera. Seems similar to the XL2 except with no interchangeable lenses. Which of the two do you think would be better for me?