XL2 and EF Lens Adapter / EF Lenses / EOS Lens

Caleb Royer · June 15th, 2009, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

You already have a great lens... just start shooting!

I currently do not own an XL2 so I can,t start shooting just yet.

Myself being 14 years old, I would have to work with my Dad for about 2 more years to purchase an XL2, so if I sold my 100-400mm lens I could get the XL2 much faster.

I guess I am thinking way to far ahead about getting another lens after I buy the XL2.

Thank you very much for your reply

CJ

Chris Hurd · June 15th, 2009, 03:38 PM

I wouldn't sell that lens if I were you.

Consider a used XL2 instead, our members usually have them for sale here.

TingSern Wong · June 15th, 2009, 08:19 PM

That depends on how far away your wildlife are - and whether you want to consider a possibility of YOU being lunch for them :-). Seriously, if your wildlife are squirrels and birds - no big deal. However, I would be extremely cautious if they are polar bears or tigers. You get the point?

I have used MIRROR lens (SIGMA) of 500mm f/5.6 - custom-order on EF adaptor to take videos of eagles on a nest nearly 2km away - no problems.

Even used that lens with 2X Canon Teleconvertor with EF (7200mm equivalent) to video sherpas walking up to summit of Mt Everest from Base Camp in Rongbuk - about 23 km away in straight line distance.

Currently, for most decent wildlife, a 70-210 f/2.8 is more than good enough.

Caleb Royer · June 16th, 2009, 01:56 PM

Will the 70-300mm DO lens work well with the XL2 and EF adapter?

Is it a good quality lens?

When using the 70-300mm DO lens with the XL2 I wont need any lens support system because the 100-300mm DO only weighs 1.6lb and the standard lens with the XL2 weighs 1.4lb so that's only 0.2lb difference, I wont need to purchase a heavy duty tripod or lens support system.

Here is a review:
Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM Lens Review

THANKS,

CJ

TingSern Wong · June 16th, 2009, 08:23 PM

I know nothing about your proposed use of your XL2 and the EF lenses. But, what I can tell you is - lightness has NOTHING to do with a need for a heavy tripod and good lens support. It is the MAGNIFICATION that is the cause of the "problem".

Even that 70-300 DO lens at 300mm is about 2,100mm when mounted on XL2 with EF converter. IS or no IS - if you don't have a "rock or concrete" anchor to mount that rig - please forget about using it. I am sorry - but I can't be any more blunt than this.

Consider this -

My Canon XL1 and 500mm f/5.6 mirror lens is about 2.5kg (extremely light) - even lighter than XL2 with 70-300 DO lens. The tripod and anchor system weighs 13kg - that should tell you the amount of stability required for such magnification.

Tony Davies-Patrick · June 17th, 2009, 06:27 AM

Using any telephoto lens with the XL2 definitely requires a very stable tripod, preferably a pro-heavy duty tripod, but that doesn't mean that you should forget about using them.

I often use 300mm and 600mm ED-IF Nikkors for extreme-telephoto shooting and can obtain crisp and sharp footage. The most important factors are to use the correct tripods and techniques in the best conditions.

Caleb Royer · August 10th, 2009, 06:55 PM

I need to know how large the Canon EF adapter is so I can save some room in my Pelican case for when I purchase it.

Thanks,

CJ

Declan Smith · August 11th, 2009, 12:32 AM

Measuring mine in it's black pouch it' approx:

3.5"H x 4.5"W x 2"D

Caleb Royer · August 11th, 2009, 06:03 AM

Thanks for the dimensions.

Caleb Royer · August 20th, 2009, 07:16 PM

I own a Canon EF-S 60mm macro lens and XL2 so I was wondering if there is any such thing as an EF-S to XL adapter for my XL2.

Thanks,

CJ

Chris Hurd · August 20th, 2009, 08:50 PM

Sorry, there is no such thing as an EF-S to XL adapter.

Caleb Royer · August 29th, 2009, 12:01 AM

When using the XL2 with the EF adapter and a 300mm or 400mm lens how much does an IS help?, That is assuming you have solid legs and good head.

Thanks a lot,

CJ

TingSern Wong · August 29th, 2009, 10:34 AM

300mm on XL2 is 2100mm. 400mm is 2800mm. Whatever help you can get (solid tripod + head) and IS as well is going to improve the image you take. It would also help if you place a sandbag on the camera (above the tripod) to minimise any shakes you would generate.

Caleb Royer · September 3rd, 2009, 06:42 PM

A few post back I asked if there was any such thing as an EF-S adapter for my EF-S 60mm f/2.8 lens to go with my XL2 and the answer was no, so I asked on another forum cold Wildeye and they also said no until someone posted this link: EF Adapter XL - Canon eStore
If you read over the compatible lenses carefully, you can see it has three EF-S lenses on the chart.
So know I'm a bit confused, could use some help.

Chris Hurd · September 4th, 2009, 02:36 PM

Three EF-S lenses are listed on that page:

EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM
EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM
EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM

I have submitted a query into Canon USA about this to seek confirmation. However I would
not expect an answer back for several days since we're going into a major holiday weekend.

June 15th, 2009, 03:38 PM	#302
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	I wouldn't sell that lens if I were you. Consider a used XL2 instead, our members usually have them for sale here. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 16th, 2009, 01:56 PM	#304
Caleb Royer Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ozarks, Missouri, USA Posts: 109	Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM lens Will the 70-300mm DO lens work well with the XL2 and EF adapter? Is it a good quality lens? When using the 70-300mm DO lens with the XL2 I wont need any lens support system because the 100-300mm DO only weighs 1.6lb and the standard lens with the XL2 weighs 1.4lb so that's only 0.2lb difference, I wont need to purchase a heavy duty tripod or lens support system. Here is a review: Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM Lens Review THANKS, CJ Last edited by Caleb Royer; June 16th, 2009 at 06:03 PM.

June 17th, 2009, 06:27 AM	#306
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	Using any telephoto lens with the XL2 definitely requires a very stable tripod, preferably a pro-heavy duty tripod, but that doesn't mean that you should forget about using them. I often use 300mm and 600mm ED-IF Nikkors for extreme-telephoto shooting and can obtain crisp and sharp footage. The most important factors are to use the correct tripods and techniques in the best conditions. __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

August 10th, 2009, 06:55 PM	#307
Caleb Royer Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ozarks, Missouri, USA Posts: 109	How Large is EF Adapter??? I need to know how large the Canon EF adapter is so I can save some room in my Pelican case for when I purchase it. Thanks, CJ Last edited by Caleb Royer; August 10th, 2009 at 09:07 PM.

August 11th, 2009, 12:32 AM	#308
Declan Smith Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Gloucestershire, UK Posts: 187	EF Adapter dimensions Measuring mine in it's black pouch it' approx: 3.5"H x 4.5"W x 2"D

June 15th, 2009, 08:19 PM	#303
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	That depends on how far away your wildlife are - and whether you want to consider a possibility of YOU being lunch for them :-). Seriously, if your wildlife are squirrels and birds - no big deal. However, I would be extremely cautious if they are polar bears or tigers. You get the point? I have used MIRROR lens (SIGMA) of 500mm f/5.6 - custom-order on EF adaptor to take videos of eagles on a nest nearly 2km away - no problems. Even used that lens with 2X Canon Teleconvertor with EF (7200mm equivalent) to video sherpas walking up to summit of Mt Everest from Base Camp in Rongbuk - about 23 km away in straight line distance. Currently, for most decent wildlife, a 70-210 f/2.8 is more than good enough.

June 16th, 2009, 08:23 PM	#305
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	I know nothing about your proposed use of your XL2 and the EF lenses. But, what I can tell you is - lightness has NOTHING to do with a need for a heavy tripod and good lens support. It is the MAGNIFICATION that is the cause of the "problem". Even that 70-300 DO lens at 300mm is about 2,100mm when mounted on XL2 with EF converter. IS or no IS - if you don't have a "rock or concrete" anchor to mount that rig - please forget about using it. I am sorry - but I can't be any more blunt than this. Consider this - My Canon XL1 and 500mm f/5.6 mirror lens is about 2.5kg (extremely light) - even lighter than XL2 with 70-300 DO lens. The tripod and anchor system weighs 13kg - that should tell you the amount of stability required for such magnification.

August 11th, 2009, 06:03 AM	#309
Caleb Royer Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ozarks, Missouri, USA Posts: 109	Thanks for the dimensions.

August 20th, 2009, 07:16 PM	#310
Caleb Royer Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ozarks, Missouri, USA Posts: 109	EF-S to XL Adapter??? I own a Canon EF-S 60mm macro lens and XL2 so I was wondering if there is any such thing as an EF-S to XL adapter for my XL2. Thanks, CJ

August 20th, 2009, 08:50 PM	#311
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Sorry, there is no such thing as an EF-S to XL adapter. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

August 29th, 2009, 12:01 AM	#312
Caleb Royer Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ozarks, Missouri, USA Posts: 109	How Important is Image Stabilizer? When using the XL2 with the EF adapter and a 300mm or 400mm lens how much does an IS help?, That is assuming you have solid legs and good head. Thanks a lot, CJ

August 29th, 2009, 10:34 AM	#313
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	300mm on XL2 is 2100mm. 400mm is 2800mm. Whatever help you can get (solid tripod + head) and IS as well is going to improve the image you take. It would also help if you place a sandbag on the camera (above the tripod) to minimise any shakes you would generate.

September 3rd, 2009, 06:42 PM	#314
Caleb Royer Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ozarks, Missouri, USA Posts: 109	About the EF-S to XL Adapter: A few post back I asked if there was any such thing as an EF-S adapter for my EF-S 60mm f/2.8 lens to go with my XL2 and the answer was no, so I asked on another forum cold Wildeye and they also said no until someone posted this link: EF Adapter XL - Canon eStore If you read over the compatible lenses carefully, you can see it has three EF-S lenses on the chart. So know I'm a bit confused, could use some help. Last edited by Caleb Royer; September 4th, 2009 at 07:57 AM.

September 4th, 2009, 02:36 PM	#315
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Three EF-S lenses are listed on that page: EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM I have submitted a query into Canon USA about this to seek confirmation. However I would not expect an answer back for several days since we're going into a major holiday weekend. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!