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May 8th, 2006, 01:05 PM | #1 |
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Does anybody know what settings to use on the XL2 to recreate the look of 8mm film? I want to try and get the same kind of look that is used in the PBS TV show Globetrekker. They use this look for cutaways. Any pointers? Do I need to do it in post? I use FCE so any settings I need for post would need to be available in that.
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Send me a link to a grab or some footage and I will tell you the settings... I am thinking low shutter, high setup level, desaturated and noise... all that you CAN do in camera...
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Hi Ash, I will have to try and get a screen grab next time the show is on (Sat). Basically the effect is oversaturated, darker, lower resolution and flickering, compared to the original. Colin |
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Link to sample grab
I have placed a screen grab of the effect I am talking about at:
http://www.optikvervelabs.com/xl2/settings.jpg I am looking to get that kind of look from either the XL2 or in post in FCE. I am new to FCE so do not know enough yet to be able to recreate the look. Thanks, Colin |
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Try this...
Tiffen Black Pro Mist Filter White Balance: WARM (use a light blue card to balance to) Shutter speed: 1/24th (you might try shooting in 60i and going to 1/15th) Gain: try experiementing to get some grain at +6db to +12db This will give you a LOT of light that you will need to crush with either the ND filters or aperature. Gamma = Cine Knee = Low Black = Press NR = Off VDetail = Normal Color Matrix = Cine Color Gain = +2 Color Phase = 0 Red = 0 Green = +3 Blue = 0 Sharpness = -6 Coring = -6 SetupLevel = -6 MasterPed = -6 ash =o) |
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Thanks Ash,
I will give that a try. I assume the filter is to give the softer image without blooming the highlights, Colin |
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With a shutter speed of 1/24, you're going to lose a lot of the filmic flavor to the motion and it's going to look more like 30p. I wouldn't go any slower than 1/60.
Adjust your light intake accordingly. If you want to do this in post, in general, you would increase your saturation and crush your blacks. The better way of crushing the blacks would be to use a color curve and adjust the RGB curve by flattening out the lower left corner. Then add a little bit of film grain.
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To add to the film-like effects from the good advice of Ash et al., QuickTime Pro ($30) will allow you to easily add other ‘film artifacts’.
Sliders for ‘Hairs and scratches’ and ‘Dust and Film Fading’ can be found under Export [to QuickTime] -> Options -> Movie Settings -> [video] Filter -> Special Effects -> Film noise. Other effects available are Color Style, Color Tint and Lens Flare. |
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Any ideas on what settings to use to avoid this? I use iDVD to burn DVDs. Colin |
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A 1/24 shutter in 24p loses a great deal of film-like motion precisely BECAUSE of the motion blur. There needs to be a slight stutter between frames, because film ALWAYS has it and it's physicaly impossible for it not to. While it's certainly subject to personal taste, a 1/60 shutter produces a very pleasing film motion cadence. You could go as slow as 1/48, but I surely would not recommend anything any slower if you want to keep a filmic motion cadence.
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