My XL2 / Redrock M2 combo... at DVinfo.net

Matthew Nayman · April 5th, 2006, 10:43 AM

Hey, just letting you all know I FINALLY have my M2 and XL2 setup in a way that will yeild some decent footage. I will be shooting some camera tests this week, wo we can all get a good idea of how the XL2 and M2 compliment eachother.

I have also been trying to set up the XL2 for run-and-gun with an M2... no easy task. I am close, just waiting on a Cavision shoulder-brace...

http://img319.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xl225om.jpg

Footage to follow soon.

Marlon Torres · April 5th, 2006, 01:41 PM

i love that arm for ur monitor, what is it and where can i get one?!

Bruce S. Yarock · April 5th, 2006, 02:04 PM

matthew,
what exactly is that M2? Any info links?
Bruce Yarock

Andrew Todd · April 5th, 2006, 04:56 PM

a 35mm adapter. check out the ALT imaging forum or the P+S technik forum for info on them

Matthew Nayman · April 5th, 2006, 05:58 PM

The M2 is a 35mm adapter available from www.redrockmicro.com
Great product, decent price. Wish they would come out with a relay lens dammit!@ (Just kidding Brian).

As for the arm, it is available here http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cinemasu...rmwi1baan.html

Nifty little product. One knob to tighten everything!

Dale Guthormsen · April 5th, 2006, 11:14 PM

Matthew,

thanks for sharing the m2 and the arm information. I logged the sites for returning to at a later time!!!

I am really looking forward to seeing some of your footage!!!

Brian J. Harris · April 12th, 2006, 02:48 PM

Hey Matthew,

Which monitor did you decide to buy? How is it regarding focusing?

Matthew Nayman · April 13th, 2006, 10:36 AM

Hey, I ended up with a Lilliput 7" LCD 16:9. It has VGA resolution, so 800x600. Great for focusing and such. Colours are a tad weak, and it is really reflective (even with touchscreen removed) but I am trying to find a petrol hood to help that!

Connor Roberts · April 22nd, 2006, 10:56 AM

Are you left-handed....or left-eyed? hehe. I noticed the eyepiece is reversed to the other side.

::: Connor

Matthew Nayman · April 23rd, 2006, 12:31 PM

OH, because the image from the M2 is rotated 180 degrees. The monitor is flippe dupsdie down on the proper side, while the EVF is upside down on the left side so Ican check accurate colours every now and then.

Dale Guthormsen · April 23rd, 2006, 10:42 PM

Matthew,

I was just wondering what you film with the rig?? The run and gun must be fun with all the weight.

any footage coming soon??

Joe Procuccio · May 4th, 2006, 01:03 PM

It looks like the M2 is just an adapter and that you will need to get a 35mm lens for it. The M2 web site is difficult to gather info on pricing. How much is the M2? Also, how much are 35mm lens'? Can you use a canon/nikon 35mm photocamera lens with the M2?

Any input is appreciated :)

Matthew Nayman · May 4th, 2006, 01:29 PM

I am currently using 35mm SLR lenses from Nikon. You can also get a canon mount, PL mount, Cooke, Arriflex, etc. Basically, a different mount for any lens... but yes, it is jsut an adapter. All the prices are on their site, but SLR lenses range from $100-$2000 so it's quite open!

Eric Elliott · May 5th, 2006, 02:15 AM

From your picture it looks like the M2 fits in front of the 20x lens. Is that right?

I was looking at getting the Canon lens adapter but this looks intriguing. Can you tell me why you went with this rig instead of the Canon?

Matthew Nayman · May 5th, 2006, 01:37 PM

The Canon EF adapter multiplies your SLR lens's focal length by 7.6 X. This is because a 35mm film frame is 7.6 times larger than a 1/3 inch CCD (like an XL2). The M2 (and various other adapters) allow the 35mm lens ot project a true 35mm image onto a sheet of spinning (or vibrating) ground glass and then your video camera films the image off of this glass, so you get a full 35mm image with true 35mm Depth of Feild. I recommend checking out the alternative imaging section of this forum...

April 5th, 2006, 10:43 AM	#1
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	My XL2 / Redrock M2 combo... Hey, just letting you all know I FINALLY have my M2 and XL2 setup in a way that will yeild some decent footage. I will be shooting some camera tests this week, wo we can all get a good idea of how the XL2 and M2 compliment eachother. I have also been trying to set up the XL2 for run-and-gun with an M2... no easy task. I am close, just waiting on a Cavision shoulder-brace... http://img319.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xl225om.jpg Footage to follow soon.

April 5th, 2006, 04:56 PM	#4
Andrew Todd Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saint John, CANADA Posts: 633	a 35mm adapter. check out the ALT imaging forum or the P+S technik forum for info on them __________________ video : xl2 / letus35xl / bogen 503 photo- canon 1dmkII - bronica etrsi

April 5th, 2006, 11:14 PM	#6
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	cool equipment Matthew, thanks for sharing the m2 and the arm information. I logged the sites for returning to at a later time!!! I am really looking forward to seeing some of your footage!!! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

April 12th, 2006, 02:48 PM	#7
Brian J. Harris Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Greenbrier, TN Posts: 89	Hey Matthew, Which monitor did you decide to buy? How is it regarding focusing? __________________ Thanks, Brian www.naturefootage.com

April 23rd, 2006, 10:42 PM	#11
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Matthew, I was just wondering what you film with the rig?? The run and gun must be fun with all the weight. any footage coming soon?? __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

April 5th, 2006, 01:41 PM	#2
Marlon Torres Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	i love that arm for ur monitor, what is it and where can i get one?!

April 5th, 2006, 02:04 PM	#3
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	matthew, what exactly is that M2? Any info links? Bruce Yarock

April 5th, 2006, 05:58 PM	#5
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	The M2 is a 35mm adapter available from www.redrockmicro.com Great product, decent price. Wish they would come out with a relay lens dammit!@ (Just kidding Brian). As for the arm, it is available here http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cinemasu...rmwi1baan.html Nifty little product. One knob to tighten everything!

April 13th, 2006, 10:36 AM	#8
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	Hey, I ended up with a Lilliput 7" LCD 16:9. It has VGA resolution, so 800x600. Great for focusing and such. Colours are a tad weak, and it is really reflective (even with touchscreen removed) but I am trying to find a petrol hood to help that!

April 22nd, 2006, 10:56 AM	#9
Connor Roberts New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dallas, TX (USA) Posts: 13	Are you left-handed....or left-eyed? hehe. I noticed the eyepiece is reversed to the other side. ::: Connor

April 23rd, 2006, 12:31 PM	#10
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	OH, because the image from the M2 is rotated 180 degrees. The monitor is flippe dupsdie down on the proper side, while the EVF is upside down on the left side so Ican check accurate colours every now and then.

May 4th, 2006, 01:03 PM	#12
Joe Procuccio New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 6	It looks like the M2 is just an adapter and that you will need to get a 35mm lens for it. The M2 web site is difficult to gather info on pricing. How much is the M2? Also, how much are 35mm lens'? Can you use a canon/nikon 35mm photocamera lens with the M2? Any input is appreciated :)

May 4th, 2006, 01:29 PM	#13
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	I am currently using 35mm SLR lenses from Nikon. You can also get a canon mount, PL mount, Cooke, Arriflex, etc. Basically, a different mount for any lens... but yes, it is jsut an adapter. All the prices are on their site, but SLR lenses range from $100-$2000 so it's quite open!

May 5th, 2006, 02:15 AM	#14
Eric Elliott Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: O'Neals, CA Posts: 71	From your picture it looks like the M2 fits in front of the 20x lens. Is that right? I was looking at getting the Canon lens adapter but this looks intriguing. Can you tell me why you went with this rig instead of the Canon?

May 5th, 2006, 01:37 PM	#15
Matthew Nayman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 917	The Canon EF adapter multiplies your SLR lens's focal length by 7.6 X. This is because a 35mm film frame is 7.6 times larger than a 1/3 inch CCD (like an XL2). The M2 (and various other adapters) allow the 35mm lens ot project a true 35mm image onto a sheet of spinning (or vibrating) ground glass and then your video camera films the image off of this glass, so you get a full 35mm image with true 35mm Depth of Feild. I recommend checking out the alternative imaging section of this forum...