Combining Canon XL2 & Sony FX1 footage at DVinfo.net

Tony Davies-Patrick · March 25th, 2006, 02:11 AM

Has anybody tried matching XL2 16:9 footage with FX1 (HDV down-converted to SD) 16:9 footage?

Has anybody also tried to match XL1s 4:3 with FX1 4:3?

The reason that I ask is that I may be teaming up with another cameraman working on some projects this year, and we will need to match our Sony & Canon equipment shots (mainly for final SD DVDs).

Finally, one more question (for possible future HD Canon/Sony projects on our agenda): Has anybody ever combined FX1 with H1 HDV footage for final TV program broadcast?

I shouldn't think there'll be too many problems (hopefully) matching SD work (all outdoor shooting), although I don't think we're keen on down-sizing the FX1 to 4:3 to match anything shot on an XL1s, or trying to convert the XL1s to 16:9...so maybe the 'old’ XL1s will be made redundant (a shame, because I actually prefer the 4:3 format). That means I may need to buy another XL2 body to replace it (I prefer the Canon, so will not consider buying a second FX1 for the project).

Robin Davies-Rollinson · March 25th, 2006, 03:48 AM

Quote: Has anybody also tried to match XL1s 4:3 with FX1 4:3?

Yes Tony, I did this last year just after I'd bought my FX1.,
No problems at all - I used the colour correction settings in Avid.
I can't remember them off-hand, but just for you to know that it's possible!

Regards,

Robin

Tony Davies-Patrick · March 25th, 2006, 05:08 AM

What did the results look like, Robin?

The most recent project I filmed completely in 4:3 with only Canon equipment, but not sure if we want to lose end quality by squeezing either the Sony or Canon footage on the joint project. Probably 16:9 is the way to go, although that would mean finding more money (which I've not got at the moment!) for an extra XL2 body.

Robin Davies-Rollinson · March 25th, 2006, 05:19 AM

Tony,
I found these frame grabs that I'd kept:

FX1 straight: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...nystraight.jpg

XL1s straight: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...onstraight.jpg

XL1s corrected to FX1: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ctedtoSony.jpg

Thses shot were all shot as 4:3 and as SD.

Hope they help.

Robin

Tony Davies-Patrick · March 25th, 2006, 04:37 PM

Thank you for the frame grabs, Robin...and nice matches.

I prefer the XL1s shot, so would probably also try the opposite and match the FX1 to the XL1s.

We're going to have a meeting next week to decide, but I'm still leaning towards buying an extra XL2 body.

March 25th, 2006, 02:11 AM	#1
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	Combining Canon XL2 & Sony FX1 footage Has anybody tried matching XL2 16:9 footage with FX1 (HDV down-converted to SD) 16:9 footage? Has anybody also tried to match XL1s 4:3 with FX1 4:3? The reason that I ask is that I may be teaming up with another cameraman working on some projects this year, and we will need to match our Sony & Canon equipment shots (mainly for final SD DVDs). Finally, one more question (for possible future HD Canon/Sony projects on our agenda): Has anybody ever combined FX1 with H1 HDV footage for final TV program broadcast? I shouldn't think there'll be too many problems (hopefully) matching SD work (all outdoor shooting), although I don't think we're keen on down-sizing the FX1 to 4:3 to match anything shot on an XL1s, or trying to convert the XL1s to 16:9...so maybe the 'old’ XL1s will be made redundant (a shame, because I actually prefer the 4:3 format). That means I may need to buy another XL2 body to replace it (I prefer the Canon, so will not consider buying a second FX1 for the project). __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

March 25th, 2006, 05:08 AM	#3
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	What did the results look like, Robin? The most recent project I filmed completely in 4:3 with only Canon equipment, but not sure if we want to lose end quality by squeezing either the Sony or Canon footage on the joint project. Probably 16:9 is the way to go, although that would mean finding more money (which I've not got at the moment!) for an extra XL2 body. __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

March 25th, 2006, 04:37 PM	#5
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	Thank you for the frame grabs, Robin...and nice matches. I prefer the XL1s shot, so would probably also try the opposite and match the FX1 to the XL1s. We're going to have a meeting next week to decide, but I'm still leaning towards buying an extra XL2 body. __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

March 25th, 2006, 03:48 AM	#2
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	Quote: Has anybody also tried to match XL1s 4:3 with FX1 4:3? Yes Tony, I did this last year just after I'd bought my FX1., No problems at all - I used the colour correction settings in Avid. I can't remember them off-hand, but just for you to know that it's possible! Regards, Robin

March 25th, 2006, 05:19 AM	#4
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	Tony, I found these frame grabs that I'd kept: FX1 straight: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...nystraight.jpg XL1s straight: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...onstraight.jpg XL1s corrected to FX1: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ctedtoSony.jpg Thses shot were all shot as 4:3 and as SD. Hope they help. Robin