Xl2 -VCR compatibility at DVinfo.net

Steven Delfino · February 10th, 2006, 01:44 PM

I have the XL1S and the XL2. My current dv player/recorder a JVC DVS3U will only play my GL2 tapes with out artifacts. I have read alot of threads about how the jvc will not play the XL tapes. I have been looking into the Panasonic AG DV 2500 player/recorder. (About broke$) I use Panasonic PQ tapes. Does any one have any info on this. Thank You!

Vincent Rozenberg · February 10th, 2006, 02:22 PM

Do you mean artifacts or drop outs? I don't get it, if it's on tape it should play with the same quality on any deck, so not more artifacts on the one and less on the other. I do am aware of drop outs on a diversity of DV players from tapes out of any XL/GM camera,so maybe you're mixing things up? Or you're learning me something new here.. ;-)

Greg Boston · February 10th, 2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vincent Rozenberg

Do you mean artifacts or drop outs? I don't get it, if it's on tape it should play with the same quality on any deck, so not more artifacts on the one and less on the other. I do am aware of drop outs on a diversity of DV players from tapes out of any XL/GM camera,so maybe you're mixing things up? Or you're learning me something new here.. ;-)

Some of the Canon transports are slightly off and cause incompatibilities when trying to play on other decks. I have this very issue when trying to playback tapes shot on one of my Xl-2 cameras in the Panasonic 953 camera. But yes, in theory they should all play nice together.

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Vincent Rozenberg · February 10th, 2006, 02:33 PM

I'm aware of the transport problems of the Canons (see my "issues" post in the XL-H1 section of this forum). But in my situations it only results in digital drop outs in audio and video and not in more artifacts.

Steven Delfino · February 10th, 2006, 03:59 PM

Thanks guys, The artifacts are little dots ( not drop outs) Like sparkles every 3 to 8 minutes. When i capture straight from xls to computer its ok. I have read about this before. I have two GL2s also and the tapes from them play fine in the JVC DV vcr. Thanks. Iam also new to this site.

Michael Salzlechner · February 10th, 2006, 04:53 PM

Steven

are you talking about little squares that appear every so often ?

if so run a cleaning tape and see if they go away on old footage. They may go away completely or just some of it.

Then after running the cleaning tape run new tapes and see if you still have the problem.

I had the same with a brand new XL2 until i cleaned the heads.

Steven Delfino · February 10th, 2006, 05:28 PM

Thanks Again. No not squares, round little fire work looking dots. About 8 or 9 at a time. I will try the things you suggest. New Panasonic tapes arrived today ( can only afford the PQs) along with some Panasonic cleaners. Will let you guys know..

Joseph Andolina · February 11th, 2006, 12:09 AM

Steve,

I've seen what your talking about also. I don't own the JVC deck you mention, but if it's the one I thnk you're talking about (the one that has Mini DV & S-VHS?), there is a Media Arts School I've been working along with on a particular project I've been shooting with my XL2, where we've tried capturing the footage to a G5 with the JVC Deck, and have noticed in spots that "sparkle" "spark" kind of glitch, where when we recaptured just the sections we needed to compensate for the problem areas with the XL2 (as much as I rather not), the capture went great. And I've also heard of that problem with those decks (Brian from Zotz Cameras will no longer sell those decks, he feels that they have some kind of transport problem in the deck themselves) before I ever had a chance to actually use one.

Joe

Steven Delfino · February 11th, 2006, 08:07 AM

Yea Joe, You got it .Thats what i mean. Has the mini Dv on one side. The tapes from my Gl2s play fine but not the XLs. Iam running out of money. Me and my wife invested in more equipment. I have just enough left to get the Panasonic AG-DV 2500 player/recorder. I dont know if its compatible. I have read a few threads that the Xls like Panasonic better?? Whats every one else doing?
Thank you all!
Steven Delfino

Joseph Andolina · February 11th, 2006, 11:44 AM

Steven, if you do go with the Panasonic AG-DV 2500, can you let us know what results you get with it? I to am in need of a good deck.

Joseph Andolina · February 11th, 2006, 12:01 PM

also, i've heard good things about the Sony DSR 11. you might want to check into that one b4 you make a decision.

Steven Delfino · February 11th, 2006, 12:41 PM

Thanks i will check them out!

Steven Delfino · February 11th, 2006, 12:48 PM

Yea its sweet (The sony DSR11) I always did like that one. I see it all the time on videography equipment lists. Some how i got to be sure these will play the Xl1s and Xl2

Steve

February 10th, 2006, 01:44 PM	#1
Steven Delfino New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Knoxville T.N. Posts: 9	Xl2 -VCR compatibility I have the XL1S and the XL2. My current dv player/recorder a JVC DVS3U will only play my GL2 tapes with out artifacts. I have read alot of threads about how the jvc will not play the XL tapes. I have been looking into the Panasonic AG DV 2500 player/recorder. (About broke$) I use Panasonic PQ tapes. Does any one have any info on this. Thank You!

February 10th, 2006, 03:59 PM	#5
Steven Delfino New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Knoxville T.N. Posts: 9	Xl2-Vcr compatibility/ repley Thanks guys, The artifacts are little dots ( not drop outs) Like sparkles every 3 to 8 minutes. When i capture straight from xls to computer its ok. I have read about this before. I have two GL2s also and the tapes from them play fine in the JVC DV vcr. Thanks. Iam also new to this site.

February 10th, 2006, 04:53 PM	#6
Michael Salzlechner Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL, US Posts: 228	Steven are you talking about little squares that appear every so often ? if so run a cleaning tape and see if they go away on old footage. They may go away completely or just some of it. Then after running the cleaning tape run new tapes and see if you still have the problem. I had the same with a brand new XL2 until i cleaned the heads. __________________ Michael Salzlechner

February 10th, 2006, 05:28 PM	#7
Steven Delfino New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Knoxville T.N. Posts: 9	Xl2-Vcr compatibility/ repley Thanks Again. No not squares, round little fire work looking dots. About 8 or 9 at a time. I will try the things you suggest. New Panasonic tapes arrived today ( can only afford the PQs) along with some Panasonic cleaners. Will let you guys know..

February 11th, 2006, 08:07 AM	#9
Steven Delfino New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Knoxville T.N. Posts: 9	Xl2DV VCR Compatibilty, Repley Yea Joe, You got it .Thats what i mean. Has the mini Dv on one side. The tapes from my Gl2s play fine but not the XLs. Iam running out of money. Me and my wife invested in more equipment. I have just enough left to get the Panasonic AG-DV 2500 player/recorder. I dont know if its compatible. I have read a few threads that the Xls like Panasonic better?? Whats every one else doing? Thank you all! Steven Delfino

February 10th, 2006, 02:22 PM	#2
Vincent Rozenberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 475	Do you mean artifacts or drop outs? I don't get it, if it's on tape it should play with the same quality on any deck, so not more artifacts on the one and less on the other. I do am aware of drop outs on a diversity of DV players from tapes out of any XL/GM camera,so maybe you're mixing things up? Or you're learning me something new here.. ;-)

February 10th, 2006, 02:33 PM	#4
Vincent Rozenberg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 475	I'm aware of the transport problems of the Canons (see my "issues" post in the XL-H1 section of this forum). But in my situations it only results in digital drop outs in audio and video and not in more artifacts.

February 11th, 2006, 12:09 AM	#8
Joseph Andolina Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 178	Steve, I've seen what your talking about also. I don't own the JVC deck you mention, but if it's the one I thnk you're talking about (the one that has Mini DV & S-VHS?), there is a Media Arts School I've been working along with on a particular project I've been shooting with my XL2, where we've tried capturing the footage to a G5 with the JVC Deck, and have noticed in spots that "sparkle" "spark" kind of glitch, where when we recaptured just the sections we needed to compensate for the problem areas with the XL2 (as much as I rather not), the capture went great. And I've also heard of that problem with those decks (Brian from Zotz Cameras will no longer sell those decks, he feels that they have some kind of transport problem in the deck themselves) before I ever had a chance to actually use one. Joe

February 11th, 2006, 11:44 AM	#10
Joseph Andolina Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 178	Steven, if you do go with the Panasonic AG-DV 2500, can you let us know what results you get with it? I to am in need of a good deck.

February 11th, 2006, 12:01 PM	#11
Joseph Andolina Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 178	also, i've heard good things about the Sony DSR 11. you might want to check into that one b4 you make a decision.

February 11th, 2006, 12:41 PM	#12
Steven Delfino New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Knoxville T.N. Posts: 9	Thanks i will check them out!

February 11th, 2006, 12:48 PM	#13
Steven Delfino New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Knoxville T.N. Posts: 9	Yea its sweet (The sony DSR11) I always did like that one. I see it all the time on videography equipment lists. Some how i got to be sure these will play the Xl1s and Xl2 Steve