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Meryem Ersoz · January 30th, 2006, 08:03 PM

...i have to let my bank account fill back up after this!

http://www.ourmedia.org/node/152989

(takes a few moments to load but worth it!)

bad, bad me.

it's really dreamy, though, nice and sharp, and oh the depth of field!

so, share everyone...what is the most ridiculous piece of non-essential gear you've ever shamefacedly purchased? as XL2 owners, surely you have stories to tell......

Greg Boston · January 30th, 2006, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meryem Ersoz

...i have to let my bank account fill back up after this!

http://www.ourmedia.org/node/152989

(takes a few moments to load but worth it!)

bad, bad me.

it's really dreamy, though, nice and sharp, and oh the depth of field!

so, share everyone...what is the most ridiculous piece of non-essential gear you've ever shamefacedly purchased? as XL2 owners, surely you have stories to tell......

Remind me to keep my blinds closed so you won't be videotaping me! Yikes, that thing is huge. Enjoy.

-gb-

James Llewellyn · January 30th, 2006, 09:23 PM

Haha, you could see all the way to Krypton with that thing.

Doug Boze · January 30th, 2006, 11:22 PM

Heck, I'd never leave home with a lens of that reach. Somebody else did this before with an XL-1 or XL-1s. What next? A Baker-Nunn XL-2?

BTW, if this were a jpeg file instead of a bitmap, it'd be 1/20th the file size.

Evan C. King · January 31st, 2006, 02:05 AM

And how many times did you actually use it?

Miguel Lombana · January 31st, 2006, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Llewellyn

Haha, you could see all the way to Krypton with that thing.

It's wild when your lens needs it's own tripod!

Alan Craven · January 31st, 2006, 04:09 AM

Now that is what I call a serious lens!

It reminds me of the days when you could buy a truck mounted Nikon telephoto of 2000 mm focal length, as i recall.

Andrew Wills · January 31st, 2006, 04:59 AM

Just out of interest, with the tripod connecting to the lens, obviously at the center of gravity, does that not cause problems where the XL2 connects to the lens? Does it not weaken the connection at all? I'd be very scared that the weight of the XL2 would cause stress at the connection points?

Or am I completely wrong and far too paranoid for my baby?

Patrick King · January 31st, 2006, 07:48 AM

Meryem,

That's funny. It even looks like the XL-2 viewfinder is turned around looking down at the lens saying "what the...".

Reminds me of the monster lens Chris Hurd posted an article about here.

K. Forman · January 31st, 2006, 08:07 AM

So... Give us the specs on that thing- How much was it, what is the distance that thing maxs out at, what does it weigh?

Adam Bray · January 31st, 2006, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Forman

So... Give us the specs on that thing- How much was it, what is the distance that thing maxs out at, what does it weigh?

Who cares. Lets the the video of the women you shot with it! :)

Meryem Ersoz · January 31st, 2006, 09:29 AM

hey greg, stop that, eyeeew. disgusting! maybe i should return this thing after all....

believe me, i got this for looking at the cute, furry, winged animals, the humans don't bear up so well under close scrutiny....

here's the specs:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

let's just say i bought mine for considerably, considerably less elsewhere....still a tad expensive, though....

as to other issues, the EF adapter connection is pretty strong, actually. i wouldn't leave it like this for long, but to snap the picture is fine. it's actually more secure attached to this bomber lens firmly attached to this substantial tripod than to a smaller lens, such as the 70-200mm.

evan, i bought this last week, and this was the first time i hooked it up to the XL2. i didn't buy it for the XL2 specifically, i bought it for still photography. it's nice to be able to use lenses for both. there are many times in colorado when i'm out just driving to a place where i plan to shoot scenery or wildlife, and the most interesting thing i see all day is just outside the car window, and i don't have the reach to shoot it. now i do! my plan is to actually use this on a beanbag. then there's the NCAR facility, where all the hawks nest and fly-over, and eldorado canyon down the road. there's many, many places i plan to take this. it is not a museum piece, by any means. if i get a good shot today, when i take it out, i'll post it.

here's the website of the guy who inspired me. it's one of the most interesting photo sites on the web, i think, if you want to know more about how people use this lens. this guy's moon shots are done with a still camera. i'll be really interested to point this thing at the moon with the XL2's magnification factor.

check this out:

http://www.pbase.com/liquidstone/testequipment

Bob Safay · January 31st, 2006, 03:49 PM

Meryem, that is one heck of a boom boom. I lived in Denver for many years and went to college there in the 70's. My wife is from South Fork, Colorado, down by Creede, on the way up to Wolf Creek Pass. I often video big horn sheep and mule deer there, plus lots of bald eagles. You ever video down that way? Bob

Meryem Ersoz · January 31st, 2006, 06:14 PM

hi bob, occasionally get that way but there's never enough time to get to see everything in this state. i have friends in telluride so usually head in that direction, plus i absolutely love the whole four corners area....so much that's spectacular there!

okay, this is getting into "still crazy" country, but i'm feeling the need to post this link here....my first official shot with this big mama-jama lens. it was pretty casual, i drove about four miles out of town to my friend's farm, and look who was sitting in a tree in a field across the street. shot out my car window on a beanbag, so nothing special, but at least you can see what this lens can do...

http://www.ourmedia.org/node/153752

i shot the same bird with a canon 400mm prime, and the sigma is an even sharper lens. canon has a bit brighter colors, but for clarity, the sigma's tough to beat, and this is coming from a pretty die-hard canon loyalist.....

Tony Davies-Patrick · February 1st, 2006, 06:21 AM

Yes, I've seen results with the Sigma 300-800mm zoom and it is a very sharp lens (close to the razor sharpness obtained with a Canon FD 800mm f/5.6 or Nikkor 800mm primes). The main problems with using lenses 600mm and over with an XL camcorder are keeping everything solid and tight on the tripod to avoid shakes, especially when there is a slight wind blowing against the lens. I've found that pre-setting focus and then stopping and starting recording using the wireless remote helps a lot in maintaining sharp footage without blur. However, the 300mm f2.8 prime in my opinion more often has enough pulling power for most wildlife subjects, is smaller and lighter, and easier to handle on the XL body to maintain sharpness.

January 30th, 2006, 08:03 PM	#1
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	True Confessions: Why I Can't Buy an H1 ...i have to let my bank account fill back up after this! http://www.ourmedia.org/node/152989 (takes a few moments to load but worth it!) bad, bad me. it's really dreamy, though, nice and sharp, and oh the depth of field! so, share everyone...what is the most ridiculous piece of non-essential gear you've ever shamefacedly purchased? as XL2 owners, surely you have stories to tell......

January 30th, 2006, 11:22 PM	#4
Doug Boze Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 218	Heck, I'd never leave home with a lens of that reach. Somebody else did this before with an XL-1 or XL-1s. What next? A Baker-Nunn XL-2? BTW, if this were a jpeg file instead of a bitmap, it'd be 1/20th the file size. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

January 31st, 2006, 07:48 AM	#9
Patrick King Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 857	Meryem, That's funny. It even looks like the XL-2 viewfinder is turned around looking down at the lens saying "what the...". Reminds me of the monster lens Chris Hurd posted an article about here. __________________ Fear No Weevil!

January 31st, 2006, 08:07 AM	#10
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	So... Give us the specs on that thing- How much was it, what is the distance that thing maxs out at, what does it weigh? __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

February 1st, 2006, 06:21 AM	#15
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	Yes, I've seen results with the Sigma 300-800mm zoom and it is a very sharp lens (close to the razor sharpness obtained with a Canon FD 800mm f/5.6 or Nikkor 800mm primes). The main problems with using lenses 600mm and over with an XL camcorder are keeping everything solid and tight on the tripod to avoid shakes, especially when there is a slight wind blowing against the lens. I've found that pre-setting focus and then stopping and starting recording using the wireless remote helps a lot in maintaining sharp footage without blur. However, the 300mm f2.8 prime in my opinion more often has enough pulling power for most wildlife subjects, is smaller and lighter, and easier to handle on the XL body to maintain sharpness. __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

January 30th, 2006, 09:23 PM	#3
James Llewellyn Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 80	Haha, you could see all the way to Krypton with that thing.

January 31st, 2006, 02:05 AM	#5
Evan C. King Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 532	And how many times did you actually use it?

January 31st, 2006, 04:09 AM	#7
Alan Craven Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: York, England Posts: 518	Now that is what I call a serious lens! It reminds me of the days when you could buy a truck mounted Nikon telephoto of 2000 mm focal length, as i recall.

January 31st, 2006, 04:59 AM	#8
Andrew Wills Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 34	Just out of interest, with the tripod connecting to the lens, obviously at the center of gravity, does that not cause problems where the XL2 connects to the lens? Does it not weaken the connection at all? I'd be very scared that the weight of the XL2 would cause stress at the connection points? Or am I completely wrong and far too paranoid for my baby?

January 31st, 2006, 09:29 AM	#12
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	hey greg, stop that, eyeeew. disgusting! maybe i should return this thing after all.... believe me, i got this for looking at the cute, furry, winged animals, the humans don't bear up so well under close scrutiny.... here's the specs: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search let's just say i bought mine for considerably, considerably less elsewhere....still a tad expensive, though.... as to other issues, the EF adapter connection is pretty strong, actually. i wouldn't leave it like this for long, but to snap the picture is fine. it's actually more secure attached to this bomber lens firmly attached to this substantial tripod than to a smaller lens, such as the 70-200mm. evan, i bought this last week, and this was the first time i hooked it up to the XL2. i didn't buy it for the XL2 specifically, i bought it for still photography. it's nice to be able to use lenses for both. there are many times in colorado when i'm out just driving to a place where i plan to shoot scenery or wildlife, and the most interesting thing i see all day is just outside the car window, and i don't have the reach to shoot it. now i do! my plan is to actually use this on a beanbag. then there's the NCAR facility, where all the hawks nest and fly-over, and eldorado canyon down the road. there's many, many places i plan to take this. it is not a museum piece, by any means. if i get a good shot today, when i take it out, i'll post it. here's the website of the guy who inspired me. it's one of the most interesting photo sites on the web, i think, if you want to know more about how people use this lens. this guy's moon shots are done with a still camera. i'll be really interested to point this thing at the moon with the XL2's magnification factor. check this out: http://www.pbase.com/liquidstone/testequipment

January 31st, 2006, 03:49 PM	#13
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,558	Meryem, that is one heck of a boom boom. I lived in Denver for many years and went to college there in the 70's. My wife is from South Fork, Colorado, down by Creede, on the way up to Wolf Creek Pass. I often video big horn sheep and mule deer there, plus lots of bald eagles. You ever video down that way? Bob

January 31st, 2006, 06:14 PM	#14
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	hi bob, occasionally get that way but there's never enough time to get to see everything in this state. i have friends in telluride so usually head in that direction, plus i absolutely love the whole four corners area....so much that's spectacular there! okay, this is getting into "still crazy" country, but i'm feeling the need to post this link here....my first official shot with this big mama-jama lens. it was pretty casual, i drove about four miles out of town to my friend's farm, and look who was sitting in a tree in a field across the street. shot out my car window on a beanbag, so nothing special, but at least you can see what this lens can do... http://www.ourmedia.org/node/153752 i shot the same bird with a canon 400mm prime, and the sigma is an even sharper lens. canon has a bit brighter colors, but for clarity, the sigma's tough to beat, and this is coming from a pretty die-hard canon loyalist.....