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Gary Barr · November 22nd, 2005, 04:41 AM

Hi,

For some reason I can't search the forum(?) for this (or anything at the moment).

Anyway, I just got a DVX to go with my 2 XL2s and am playing around trying to get it to match them as much as possible for multicam situations. I want to shoot as cleanly as possible and then add Magic Bullet filters to give the cine look (they look amazing btw, and render really quickly since the Magic Bullet Editors 2 came out.

What are the best settings for the XL2 to 'prep' for software like Magic Bullet? Plus, any ideas on DVX settings to match these? Ash? Anyone?

Thanks very much.

Ash Greyson · November 22nd, 2005, 12:48 PM

DVX 100a? or b?

ash =o)

Richard Alvarez · November 22nd, 2005, 01:00 PM

Here's an interesting sidebar.

I recently shot some documentary footage along with three DVX's. One old, one "a" and one 'b", along with my xl2.

At the edit session, it seemed all of my footage had a very VERY high pitched, random 'squeak' in it. Almost like the mic was picking up a bad tape transport, a very erratic 'squeaky wheel' kind of sound, that would come and go. We listened to different tapes I shot on different days with different microphone combinations... and it was present on all of them, sometimes in one channel, sometimes the other, sometimes both. Horrifying - Partly because it was great footage, and partly because I didn't catch it when I was shooting. I mentioned that I had never heard this problem before, and I edit with a DSR 11.

The director thought a moment, and then pulled the tape out of his Panny (which he had been using as capture) and put it in a sony deck. Sure enough, the "Squeak" was completely gone.

Apparently, there was an issue between tapes recorded on MY XL2 and played back on his OLD DVX100. Don't know if thats an issue specific to MY camera, HIS camera, or all DVX/XL2 combo's... but it was an issue. Thankfully, we had a workaround available. I've played my tapes back on my camera, my DSR11, a small portable Sony deck (forget which model) and a GL2. No problems with any of them.

Just so you know, if it comes up for you.

Gary Barr · November 23rd, 2005, 03:15 AM

thanks Richard, worth knowing.

Ash, it's an 'AE', PAL.

cheers.

Ash Greyson · November 25th, 2005, 09:11 PM

To match the DVX and XL2 in 16:9 mode you will have to turn the sharpness ALL the way down on the XL2, you will need to set the blacks to press and turn the set-up level and master pedestal down a couple notches. The knee will have to be set to middle or high. Bump the red gain 2 notches and the color gain a notch or two.

Set the DVX detail to thin lines, the knee to low, couple ticks toward green on the color.

The best way to match them up is to use NORMAL gamma. The DVX models get very noisy in the cinegamma modes. For the record the 100b cuts much better with the XL2.

ash =o)

Gary Barr · November 26th, 2005, 05:11 AM

great stuff, thanks, I'll give it a go. I've always used the cine gamma on the XL2 and also applied post filters for a film look - do you think there's any need, is it overkill? it looks good so suppose that's the acid test.

November 22nd, 2005, 04:41 AM	#1
Gary Barr Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 186	presets - syncing DVX and XL2? Hi, For some reason I can't search the forum(?) for this (or anything at the moment). Anyway, I just got a DVX to go with my 2 XL2s and am playing around trying to get it to match them as much as possible for multicam situations. I want to shoot as cleanly as possible and then add Magic Bullet filters to give the cine look (they look amazing btw, and render really quickly since the Magic Bullet Editors 2 came out. What are the best settings for the XL2 to 'prep' for software like Magic Bullet? Plus, any ideas on DVX settings to match these? Ash? Anyone? Thanks very much.

November 22nd, 2005, 12:48 PM	#2
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	DVX 100a? or b? ash =o)

November 22nd, 2005, 01:00 PM	#3
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Here's an interesting sidebar. I recently shot some documentary footage along with three DVX's. One old, one "a" and one 'b", along with my xl2. At the edit session, it seemed all of my footage had a very VERY high pitched, random 'squeak' in it. Almost like the mic was picking up a bad tape transport, a very erratic 'squeaky wheel' kind of sound, that would come and go. We listened to different tapes I shot on different days with different microphone combinations... and it was present on all of them, sometimes in one channel, sometimes the other, sometimes both. Horrifying - Partly because it was great footage, and partly because I didn't catch it when I was shooting. I mentioned that I had never heard this problem before, and I edit with a DSR 11. The director thought a moment, and then pulled the tape out of his Panny (which he had been using as capture) and put it in a sony deck. Sure enough, the "Squeak" was completely gone. Apparently, there was an issue between tapes recorded on MY XL2 and played back on his OLD DVX100. Don't know if thats an issue specific to MY camera, HIS camera, or all DVX/XL2 combo's... but it was an issue. Thankfully, we had a workaround available. I've played my tapes back on my camera, my DSR11, a small portable Sony deck (forget which model) and a GL2. No problems with any of them. Just so you know, if it comes up for you.

November 23rd, 2005, 03:15 AM	#4
Gary Barr Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 186	thanks Richard, worth knowing. Ash, it's an 'AE', PAL. cheers.

November 25th, 2005, 09:11 PM	#5
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	To match the DVX and XL2 in 16:9 mode you will have to turn the sharpness ALL the way down on the XL2, you will need to set the blacks to press and turn the set-up level and master pedestal down a couple notches. The knee will have to be set to middle or high. Bump the red gain 2 notches and the color gain a notch or two. Set the DVX detail to thin lines, the knee to low, couple ticks toward green on the color. The best way to match them up is to use NORMAL gamma. The DVX models get very noisy in the cinegamma modes. For the record the 100b cuts much better with the XL2. ash =o)

November 26th, 2005, 05:11 AM	#6
Gary Barr Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 186	great stuff, thanks, I'll give it a go. I've always used the cine gamma on the XL2 and also applied post filters for a film look - do you think there's any need, is it overkill? it looks good so suppose that's the acid test.