getting the 2.35:1 ration on my XL2 at DVinfo.net

Chris Fritsche · October 26th, 2005, 02:05 PM

Ok I really love the epic frame ratio of film movies. I would like to make my movies like this. I know that in order to do this I will have to cut off the tops and bottoms to achieve the ration not the size.
With that said, I have the XL2 and a nebtec 7" screen. What would the height on the screen be in order to achieve the ratio, so I can tape it off in order to eye frame the shots. Unless I am missing something, if the width is 740 would the height of the film be 315 (740X315), what is this in inches?

Chris Hurd · October 27th, 2005, 12:26 AM

Why not go all out and add an anamorphic adapter to the front of the lens. Shoot through that in 16:9 mode and you've got 2.35:1 through the glass, if you don't mind framing a spaghetti western in your monitor.

October 27th, 2005, 02:18 PM

If you are using Final Cut Pro you can select the Matte Filter in Final Cut Pro and then choose the 2:35:1 option. See were it cuts everything off, then put the marks on your monitor while you have it plugged in via FireWire.

Boyd Ostroff · October 27th, 2005, 02:56 PM

Well if you just want to mark the screen then measure how wide it is. Then divide that number by 2.35, measure that distance verically and place your tape across the screen. Since you're going to do something non standard I don't think the pixel dimensions matter a whole lot, just use the crop property on the motion tab in the FCP viewer and make it match your tape marks.

The "double anamorphic" trick that Chris describes is interesting and has been discussed a lot here. Hardly anyone has actually done it though. For one thing, what will you do with that footage later? Unless you're going to uprez to HD you'll have to crop it anyway. The only person I know who has actually done this is Martin Munthe; see this old thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&threadid=3069

Here are some other related threads:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=18917
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=39732
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=23390
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=22798
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=18905
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=13696

Josh Caldwell · October 27th, 2005, 05:34 PM

I shoot most of my films with the 2.35:1 framing . What I do is shoot in 16x9 (for the higher resolution) and making sure my monitor is set to 16x9. Then, I plug the camera in to the computer and run a frame with my letterbox on 16x9 footage for the 2.35:1 and then tape it off on the monitor.

A lot of people seem to have a problem with people shooting this way because it's not anamophic...well, even though it's a higher resolution, neither is Super 35 or 35mm. They're essentially shooting in a 1.85:1 mode, and framing it for 2.35:1. It's not true anamorphic.

I prefer it to 16x9 strictly for composition.

October 26th, 2005, 02:05 PM	#1
Chris Fritsche Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston, TX (Cypress to be exact) Posts: 169	getting the 2.35:1 ration on my XL2 Ok I really love the epic frame ratio of film movies. I would like to make my movies like this. I know that in order to do this I will have to cut off the tops and bottoms to achieve the ration not the size. With that said, I have the XL2 and a nebtec 7" screen. What would the height on the screen be in order to achieve the ratio, so I can tape it off in order to eye frame the shots. Unless I am missing something, if the width is 740 would the height of the film be 315 (740X315), what is this in inches?

October 27th, 2005, 12:26 AM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Why not go all out and add an anamorphic adapter to the front of the lens. Shoot through that in 16:9 mode and you've got 2.35:1 through the glass, if you don't mind framing a spaghetti western in your monitor. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 27th, 2005, 02:18 PM	#3
Guest Posts: n/a	If you are using Final Cut Pro you can select the Matte Filter in Final Cut Pro and then choose the 2:35:1 option. See were it cuts everything off, then put the marks on your monitor while you have it plugged in via FireWire. Last edited by Guest; October 27th, 2005 at 02:59 PM.

October 27th, 2005, 02:56 PM	#4
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,801	Well if you just want to mark the screen then measure how wide it is. Then divide that number by 2.35, measure that distance verically and place your tape across the screen. Since you're going to do something non standard I don't think the pixel dimensions matter a whole lot, just use the crop property on the motion tab in the FCP viewer and make it match your tape marks. The "double anamorphic" trick that Chris describes is interesting and has been discussed a lot here. Hardly anyone has actually done it though. For one thing, what will you do with that footage later? Unless you're going to uprez to HD you'll have to crop it anyway. The only person I know who has actually done this is Martin Munthe; see this old thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&threadid=3069 Here are some other related threads: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=18917 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=39732 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=23390 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=22798 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=18905 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=13696

October 27th, 2005, 05:34 PM	#5
Josh Caldwell Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 183	I shoot most of my films with the 2.35:1 framing . What I do is shoot in 16x9 (for the higher resolution) and making sure my monitor is set to 16x9. Then, I plug the camera in to the computer and run a frame with my letterbox on 16x9 footage for the 2.35:1 and then tape it off on the monitor. A lot of people seem to have a problem with people shooting this way because it's not anamophic...well, even though it's a higher resolution, neither is Super 35 or 35mm. They're essentially shooting in a 1.85:1 mode, and framing it for 2.35:1. It's not true anamorphic. I prefer it to 16x9 strictly for composition.