1.6 extender for XL2 at DVinfo.net

Alan Daoud · September 2nd, 2005, 06:47 PM

Has anyone used the 1.6 extender on their XL2? Can you tell me any pros and cons? I bought the EF lens adapter as I have several thousand dollars worth of Canon lenses then found out you don't get auto focus, no auto zoom, and sometimes no metering. The 1.6 would give me up to 32 times zoom. But are there any drawbacks? What kind of lowlight limit would there be?

Alan Porter · September 2nd, 2005, 10:13 PM

Hi Alan,

I have one of them things. Sorry, but I can't compare it to the EF adapter + EF lenses. I like the extender because it's light and compact and therefore great for traveling. It's similar in construction to the EF adapter, so either way you're shooting through extra glass. If you're into autofocus and the off-lens zoom or don't like carrying around your EF lenses maybe it'll work for you. Buy from B&H or Adorama and you can return it if it doesn't (right?).

I haven't done a test on the light issue but I guess you probably lose an f-stop, as I imagine you do with the EF adapter.

You might also want to check out the Century Optics 1.6x tele. It's a lot bigger and heavier but it's simpler to get on and off and you don't expose the CCD in the process.

The image is noticeably softer with both the Canon and C.O. adapters installed, in case you were curious. I'd like to see that configuration tested against an equivalent EF tele setup at various zooms and f-stops. I'm sure the latter produces a higher-quality image, but I'd like to know by how much.

Happy Trails,
Alan

Chris Hurd · September 2nd, 2005, 10:35 PM

For Alan Daoud, if you search the XL2 forum for the term "extender," it should return about eight or nine discussion threads that we already have about that item. Hope this helps,

Alan Daoud · September 2nd, 2005, 11:45 PM

Thanks. I'm still learning my way around this site. Shooting for the first time with my XL2 tomorrow. A high school football game. Haven't had time to read the whole manual yet, so will probably shoot in auto mode. Will try 60i, 24p and 30p to see what works best. Would like to see how slow-mo and freeze frame look in all three.

Per Johan Naesje · September 3rd, 2005, 12:56 AM

Alan,
I have used the 1.6 ext since I got the XL2 in november 2004, mostly in wildlife filming. If you like take a look of this sample:

http://www.video-film.no/snutter/moon.wmv

This shoot demonstrate the 20 x lense at the telephotoend with/without the 1.6 extender. As you can see of the sample the 1.6 ext. gives you a nice and sharp picture.
In this sample the XL2 was set to F11 and the shutter was 1/120.

- Per Johan

Marty Hudzik · September 3rd, 2005, 09:20 PM

when using the 1.6x canon extender do you get vignetting when not zoomed all the way in like the CP adapter?

Chris Hurd · September 3rd, 2005, 09:54 PM

Absolutely no vignetting with the Canon 1.6x Extender.

Stefan Day · September 6th, 2005, 08:16 AM

what is the cp adapter?

Marty Hudzik · September 6th, 2005, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan Day

what is the cp adapter?

Century Precision Optics makes a 1.6x tele adapter that goes on the end of your lens.

September 2nd, 2005, 06:47 PM	#1
Alan Daoud New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12	1.6 extender for XL2 Has anyone used the 1.6 extender on their XL2? Can you tell me any pros and cons? I bought the EF lens adapter as I have several thousand dollars worth of Canon lenses then found out you don't get auto focus, no auto zoom, and sometimes no metering. The 1.6 would give me up to 32 times zoom. But are there any drawbacks? What kind of lowlight limit would there be?

September 2nd, 2005, 10:35 PM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	For Alan Daoud, if you search the XL2 forum for the term "extender," it should return about eight or nine discussion threads that we already have about that item. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 3rd, 2005, 09:54 PM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Absolutely no vignetting with the Canon 1.6x Extender. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 6th, 2005, 08:16 AM	#8
Stefan Day Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Rhinebeck, New York Posts: 57	what is the cp adapter? __________________ wooohoooo! let's make some movie!

September 2nd, 2005, 10:13 PM	#2
Alan Porter New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 17	Hi Alan, I have one of them things. Sorry, but I can't compare it to the EF adapter + EF lenses. I like the extender because it's light and compact and therefore great for traveling. It's similar in construction to the EF adapter, so either way you're shooting through extra glass. If you're into autofocus and the off-lens zoom or don't like carrying around your EF lenses maybe it'll work for you. Buy from B&H or Adorama and you can return it if it doesn't (right?). I haven't done a test on the light issue but I guess you probably lose an f-stop, as I imagine you do with the EF adapter. You might also want to check out the Century Optics 1.6x tele. It's a lot bigger and heavier but it's simpler to get on and off and you don't expose the CCD in the process. The image is noticeably softer with both the Canon and C.O. adapters installed, in case you were curious. I'd like to see that configuration tested against an equivalent EF tele setup at various zooms and f-stops. I'm sure the latter produces a higher-quality image, but I'd like to know by how much. Happy Trails, Alan

September 2nd, 2005, 11:45 PM	#4
Alan Daoud New Boot Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12	Thanks. I'm still learning my way around this site. Shooting for the first time with my XL2 tomorrow. A high school football game. Haven't had time to read the whole manual yet, so will probably shoot in auto mode. Will try 60i, 24p and 30p to see what works best. Would like to see how slow-mo and freeze frame look in all three.

September 3rd, 2005, 12:56 AM	#5
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Alan, I have used the 1.6 ext since I got the XL2 in november 2004, mostly in wildlife filming. If you like take a look of this sample: http://www.video-film.no/snutter/moon.wmv This shoot demonstrate the 20 x lense at the telephotoend with/without the 1.6 extender. As you can see of the sample the 1.6 ext. gives you a nice and sharp picture. In this sample the XL2 was set to F11 and the shutter was 1/120. - Per Johan

September 3rd, 2005, 09:20 PM	#6
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	when using the 1.6x canon extender do you get vignetting when not zoomed all the way in like the CP adapter?