Vertical Thin Red Line on Edge of Clips at DVinfo.net

Lucinda Luvaas · July 13th, 2005, 12:20 AM

Hi,

I'm just capturing today's footage and noticing a thin red vertical line on the left edge of my clips. I can't see it on the darker clips, but can on the lighter, from top to bottom of the clip, only on the left side. I know this can be cropped, but I don't want it there and it hasn't been there before. Does anyone know what could cause this?

Thanks so much for any help!

Lucinda

P. S. I just put one of the captured clips into a 16:9 timeline in Adobe Premiere 6.5, I use a Mac and am viewing on a tv which is a NTSC 4:3 monitor. I don't see the thin red line on the left. My concern tho' is if this were being seen on a wide screen tv, etc., would the thin red line show up? And, what on earth is the thin red line any way? Ugh, the learning curve...

Kevin Kocak · July 13th, 2005, 07:34 AM

Hi Lucinda. I am 99% sure that about the only place you would be able to see the outer edge of your footage would be on a computer monitor. Otherwise it is out of the "view safe" area of TV's.

Chris Hurd · July 13th, 2005, 07:37 AM

Kevin's right, even on 16:9 monitors it'll be out of the TV-safe area.

Richard Hunter · July 13th, 2005, 08:23 AM

But if you use a PIP or other effect that shows the clip edges you would need to crop it.

Richard

Chris Hurd · July 13th, 2005, 08:59 AM

By the way, does anybody else see this? Does somebody have a frame grab that shows it?

Lucinda Luvaas · July 13th, 2005, 12:52 PM

Chris,

I have frames of it, but not sure how to send it to you....unless I email a jpeg to you directly. I'd be glad for you to see it as I'm not sure what's causing it. Please let me know. I wasn't getting the red line before yesterday and it's only on the left very edge, a thin red line.

Lucinda

Lucinda Luvaas · July 13th, 2005, 12:53 PM

It may be out of the "view safe area for tv's" but what about theater screens?

Kevin Kocak · July 13th, 2005, 01:31 PM

Is it only showing up after being captured or is it on the tape? If its after capture then you should do some trouble shooting on the NLE side.

Lucinda Luvaas · July 13th, 2005, 01:47 PM

It's showing up on being captured. Doesn't seem to be on the tape. However, I can only view on regular tv at 4:3. When I view the tape in the viewfinder it's not there either.

The thing is I haven't had a problem capturing before, using the same cam...no red line...so I don't really see how there could be a problem in post with the NLE..same settings. hummmm.

I would love to send the offending line pict, but don't know how to send on this forum, except text..don't know how to send a jpeg for you to see.

Lucinda

Chris Hurd · July 13th, 2005, 02:04 PM

Hi Lucinda,

Shoot me an email with the .jpeg(s) attached please -- chris at dvinfo.net

Lucinda Luvaas · July 13th, 2005, 03:58 PM

Hi Chris,

I'm sending one jpeg. If you need to see more, let me know.

I don't see it when watching on tv, but then I don't have a 16:9 tv here.

And, I don't see it in the viewfinder...only when capturing and viewing on the computer(s).

Thanks so much for your help!

Lucinda

Patrick King · July 13th, 2005, 04:04 PM

Lucinda & Chris,

There was another reported case of this (or very similar) here on this board:

XL2 - Darker Right Border?

No resolution reported in that thread.

Lucinda Luvaas · July 13th, 2005, 04:07 PM

Patrick,

This is a very thin red line on the left of the clip....I can't see it in the viewfinder, only in post....

Hope there's an answer and I'm sure there will be. I'm looking hard for one.

Lucinda

Chris Hurd · July 13th, 2005, 04:37 PM

Samples posted here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/media/red_line.jpg

http://www.dvinfo.net/media/redlinebest.jpg

Thanks Lucinda and Brian,

Lucinda Luvaas · July 13th, 2005, 05:31 PM

Chris,

The other frame is the same as mine in terms of what's happening. My concern, as I said before is: will this show up on a movie screen in a theater or on TV?

And, of course, what could cause this?

Lucinda

July 13th, 2005, 12:20 AM	#1
Lucinda Luvaas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 233	Vertical Thin Red Line on Edge of Clips Hi, I'm just capturing today's footage and noticing a thin red vertical line on the left edge of my clips. I can't see it on the darker clips, but can on the lighter, from top to bottom of the clip, only on the left side. I know this can be cropped, but I don't want it there and it hasn't been there before. Does anyone know what could cause this? Thanks so much for any help! Lucinda P. S. I just put one of the captured clips into a 16:9 timeline in Adobe Premiere 6.5, I use a Mac and am viewing on a tv which is a NTSC 4:3 monitor. I don't see the thin red line on the left. My concern tho' is if this were being seen on a wide screen tv, etc., would the thin red line show up? And, what on earth is the thin red line any way? Ugh, the learning curve... Last edited by Lucinda Luvaas; July 13th, 2005 at 12:57 AM.

July 13th, 2005, 07:37 AM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Kevin's right, even on 16:9 monitors it'll be out of the TV-safe area. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

July 13th, 2005, 08:59 AM	#5
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	By the way, does anybody else see this? Does somebody have a frame grab that shows it? __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

July 13th, 2005, 02:04 PM	#10
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Hi Lucinda, Shoot me an email with the .jpeg(s) attached please -- chris at dvinfo.net __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

July 13th, 2005, 04:04 PM	#12
Patrick King Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 857	Lucinda & Chris, There was another reported case of this (or very similar) here on this board: XL2 - Darker Right Border? No resolution reported in that thread. __________________ Fear No Weevil!

July 13th, 2005, 07:34 AM	#2
Kevin Kocak Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 149	Hi Lucinda. I am 99% sure that about the only place you would be able to see the outer edge of your footage would be on a computer monitor. Otherwise it is out of the "view safe" area of TV's.

July 13th, 2005, 08:23 AM	#4
Richard Hunter Trustee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lipa City Batangas, Philippines Posts: 1,110	But if you use a PIP or other effect that shows the clip edges you would need to crop it. Richard

July 13th, 2005, 12:52 PM	#6
Lucinda Luvaas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 233	Chris, I have frames of it, but not sure how to send it to you....unless I email a jpeg to you directly. I'd be glad for you to see it as I'm not sure what's causing it. Please let me know. I wasn't getting the red line before yesterday and it's only on the left very edge, a thin red line. Lucinda

July 13th, 2005, 12:53 PM	#7
Lucinda Luvaas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 233	It may be out of the "view safe area for tv's" but what about theater screens?

July 13th, 2005, 01:31 PM	#8
Kevin Kocak Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 149	Is it only showing up after being captured or is it on the tape? If its after capture then you should do some trouble shooting on the NLE side.

July 13th, 2005, 01:47 PM	#9
Lucinda Luvaas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 233	It's showing up on being captured. Doesn't seem to be on the tape. However, I can only view on regular tv at 4:3. When I view the tape in the viewfinder it's not there either. The thing is I haven't had a problem capturing before, using the same cam...no red line...so I don't really see how there could be a problem in post with the NLE..same settings. hummmm. I would love to send the offending line pict, but don't know how to send on this forum, except text..don't know how to send a jpeg for you to see. Lucinda

July 13th, 2005, 03:58 PM	#11
Lucinda Luvaas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 233	Hi Chris, I'm sending one jpeg. If you need to see more, let me know. I don't see it when watching on tv, but then I don't have a 16:9 tv here. And, I don't see it in the viewfinder...only when capturing and viewing on the computer(s). Thanks so much for your help! Lucinda

July 13th, 2005, 04:07 PM	#13
Lucinda Luvaas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 233	Patrick, This is a very thin red line on the left of the clip....I can't see it in the viewfinder, only in post.... Hope there's an answer and I'm sure there will be. I'm looking hard for one. Lucinda

July 13th, 2005, 04:37 PM	#14
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Samples posted here: http://www.dvinfo.net/media/red_line.jpg http://www.dvinfo.net/media/redlinebest.jpg Thanks Lucinda and Brian, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

July 13th, 2005, 05:31 PM	#15
Lucinda Luvaas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 233	Chris, The other frame is the same as mine in terms of what's happening. My concern, as I said before is: will this show up on a movie screen in a theater or on TV? And, of course, what could cause this? Lucinda