Footage from Norway at DVinfo.net

Per Johan Naesje · March 9th, 2005, 10:39 AM

Here is some footage from Norway, in the northern part of Europe.
I shoot with my xl2 (pal), 20x lense + 1.6x extender in some part of the movie
Camera settings: all footage shoot in 50i, 16:9, automatic mode mostly, with exp.lock on, adjusting iris and shutter for the best result.
The location was high up in the mountains up to 6500 feet. Night temperature down to 8 degree farenheit.
The camera functioned very well in the low temperature but battery went out very quick so I was happy to have with me spare batteries!

The file size is large so please right click, and save it to your locale machine before open!

link to footage:
http://www.video-film.no/snutter/footage.html

Enjoy
- Per Johan

A. J. deLange · March 9th, 2005, 03:52 PM

Beautiful!

Marty Hudzik · March 9th, 2005, 03:57 PM

I have experienced problems with the LCD when shooting in temps in the 20s farenheit. The darn thing starts to lag big time. It doesn;t effect the footage on tape but can cause some issues while shooting and watching on the LCD. I would guess you saw something like this at 8 degrees Farenheit..no?

Robert Niemann · March 9th, 2005, 03:59 PM

Norway lies in the northern part of Europe? Now I know! But seriously, Your video has whetted my appetite for a trip to Scandinavia, maybe with my new camera, called HDX100 or whatever.
I have one question: Was the lens stabilizer on or off while Your shooting?

Pete Bauer · March 9th, 2005, 04:54 PM

Per,

STUNNING footage! Even down-sampled to 512x288 it looked great and was very edited together. I noticed that the file properties report a frame rate of 29.0fps...I would have anticipated 25fps since you're shooting PAL?

Greg Patch · March 10th, 2005, 09:35 AM

Looks great and very cold....

Per Johan Naesje · March 10th, 2005, 10:42 AM

Thanks all for your comment!

Marty: I didn't experience any lag in the viewfinger when I was filming, nor in the night shoot at 8 degree farenheit! As I told the camera functioned remarkable well in that cold temperature, albeit my batteries died very quick. Spare batteries is a good thing filming in the wilderness especially in wintertemperatures.

Robert: As far as I remember I didn't use the stabilizer during these shoots, because I was using a tripod.

Pete: OK, I will try to render a new file with your suggestion, should be exciting to compare any difference!

- Per Johan

Scott Tebeau · March 10th, 2005, 11:55 AM

Subtle and quietly haunting. Very nice. Can you tell me who did the music on the second track?

Pete Bauer · March 10th, 2005, 12:09 PM

No need to go to extra work because of me. I am simply curious about the frame rate; your WMV file is 29 fps and therefore non-standard for either PAL or NTSC (NTSC is 29.97). But for sure, there is NOTHING wrong with changing such things; the artist may do with his or her art whatever it is that the artist wishes! I simply wondered if that specific frame rate was deliberate, or just slipped into the settings by accident. ;-) Along those lines, what software did you use to edit and then to export to WMV?

EDIT: Also, I meant to ask you if you used any particular filters when the camera was pointed at the sun? Looks like it was no problem for you, but I've been too concerned about damaging the camera to do such things as sunrises and sunsets.

Per Johan Naesje · March 11th, 2005, 03:05 PM

Pete: You was right! I took a closer look into the settings for the program (Windows Media Encoder 9.00) I used to convert the avi-file to wmv and the settings was default to ntsc (29.97/30 fps). Changing the format to pal (25 fps), reduced the file-size to 33.8 mb (the size was originally 53.1 mb!)
For NLE I am using Pinnacle Liquid Pro 6.0, some of the footage (the full moon and sunset) was speeded up to 16x, while the water drop was reduced 0.2x
I also used the grey-filter (1/32) on the sunset shoot and reduced the iris to protect the ccd-chip (done a lot of sunset-footage without discovering any problems with the camera afterwards), does anybody have any comments to this?

Scott: The music on the second track is - "chants, hymns and dances" composed by Gurdjieff, performed by Anja Lechner violincello and Vassilis Tsabropoulos piano. ECM New Series 1888, B0003036-02

- Per Johan

Frank Aalbers · March 12th, 2005, 01:23 AM

Beautyfull footage Per ! Love it !

Frank

Donie Kelly · March 13th, 2005, 06:19 PM

Hi Per,

Am impressed with your beautiful country. Well shot. Was it windy in some of the shots? I notice some vibration in the shots. I'm not trying to take from the shots but when this happens to me it annoys me. Sometimes it's impossible to avoid when you're at the telephoto end. Like the music btw, aptly chosen.

Donie

Per Johan Naesje · March 14th, 2005, 04:02 AM

Donie,
I can tell you that it was veeery windy, in some of the shots. I also used a to small and unstable tripod, so it was almost impossible to shoot any good and stable footage at full telephoto!

So, what I learned from this trip was that even if its heavy to carry, bring with you your best and heavyest tripod!

- Per Johan

Jonathan Jones · March 18th, 2005, 10:20 PM

Really really nice stuff. Thanks for sharing - it looked great and was a pleasure to watch. I have a couple of friends who used to live there and they would try to describe to me the beauty of the area. Now, I think I may have a better idea thanks to your work.
-Jon

John Sandel · March 18th, 2005, 10:45 PM

Wow!

This is one of the best things about DV---the clarity and freedom which these sophisticated tools make available to so many people. I really treasure modest-scale work like this: filmmaking in a direct, personal sense.

As I watched it, I thought: "It's not just the landscape---anybody could go out and get acceptable imagery from views like that. It's the craft."

I mean your craft; your editing (that opening sequence of moonrise & moonset is deeply satisfying); your use of music. The pacing.

Really encouraging to see this kind of work, Per. It's like reading a poem you might have written.

March 9th, 2005, 10:39 AM	#1
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Footage from Norway Here is some footage from Norway, in the northern part of Europe. I shoot with my xl2 (pal), 20x lense + 1.6x extender in some part of the movie Camera settings: all footage shoot in 50i, 16:9, automatic mode mostly, with exp.lock on, adjusting iris and shutter for the best result. The location was high up in the mountains up to 6500 feet. Night temperature down to 8 degree farenheit. The camera functioned very well in the low temperature but battery went out very quick so I was happy to have with me spare batteries! The file size is large so please right click, and save it to your locale machine before open! link to footage: http://www.video-film.no/snutter/footage.html Enjoy - Per Johan

March 9th, 2005, 04:54 PM	#5
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Per, STUNNING footage! Even down-sampled to 512x288 it looked great and was very edited together. I noticed that the file properties report a frame rate of 29.0fps...I would have anticipated 25fps since you're shooting PAL? __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

March 10th, 2005, 12:09 PM	#9
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	No need to go to extra work because of me. I am simply curious about the frame rate; your WMV file is 29 fps and therefore non-standard for either PAL or NTSC (NTSC is 29.97). But for sure, there is NOTHING wrong with changing such things; the artist may do with his or her art whatever it is that the artist wishes! I simply wondered if that specific frame rate was deliberate, or just slipped into the settings by accident. ;-) Along those lines, what software did you use to edit and then to export to WMV? EDIT: Also, I meant to ask you if you used any particular filters when the camera was pointed at the sun? Looks like it was no problem for you, but I've been too concerned about damaging the camera to do such things as sunrises and sunsets. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

March 13th, 2005, 06:19 PM	#12
Donie Kelly Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 159	Hi Per, Am impressed with your beautiful country. Well shot. Was it windy in some of the shots? I notice some vibration in the shots. I'm not trying to take from the shots but when this happens to me it annoys me. Sometimes it's impossible to avoid when you're at the telephoto end. Like the music btw, aptly chosen. Donie __________________ Macbook Pro 2.0Ghz and Canon XL2

March 9th, 2005, 03:52 PM	#2
A. J. deLange Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: McLean, VA United States Posts: 749	Beautiful!

March 9th, 2005, 03:57 PM	#3
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	I have experienced problems with the LCD when shooting in temps in the 20s farenheit. The darn thing starts to lag big time. It doesn;t effect the footage on tape but can cause some issues while shooting and watching on the LCD. I would guess you saw something like this at 8 degrees Farenheit..no?

March 9th, 2005, 03:59 PM	#4
Robert Niemann Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Berlin, Federal Republic of Germany Posts: 109	Norway lies in the northern part of Europe? Now I know! But seriously, Your video has whetted my appetite for a trip to Scandinavia, maybe with my new camera, called HDX100 or whatever. I have one question: Was the lens stabilizer on or off while Your shooting?

March 10th, 2005, 09:35 AM	#6
Greg Patch Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Huntsville, Alabama Posts: 181	Looks great and very cold....

March 10th, 2005, 10:42 AM	#7
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Thanks all for your comment! Marty: I didn't experience any lag in the viewfinger when I was filming, nor in the night shoot at 8 degree farenheit! As I told the camera functioned remarkable well in that cold temperature, albeit my batteries died very quick. Spare batteries is a good thing filming in the wilderness especially in wintertemperatures. Robert: As far as I remember I didn't use the stabilizer during these shoots, because I was using a tripod. Pete: OK, I will try to render a new file with your suggestion, should be exciting to compare any difference! - Per Johan

March 10th, 2005, 11:55 AM	#8
Scott Tebeau Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: portland oregon Posts: 73	Subtle and quietly haunting. Very nice. Can you tell me who did the music on the second track?

March 11th, 2005, 03:05 PM	#10
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Pete: You was right! I took a closer look into the settings for the program (Windows Media Encoder 9.00) I used to convert the avi-file to wmv and the settings was default to ntsc (29.97/30 fps). Changing the format to pal (25 fps), reduced the file-size to 33.8 mb (the size was originally 53.1 mb!) For NLE I am using Pinnacle Liquid Pro 6.0, some of the footage (the full moon and sunset) was speeded up to 16x, while the water drop was reduced 0.2x I also used the grey-filter (1/32) on the sunset shoot and reduced the iris to protect the ccd-chip (done a lot of sunset-footage without discovering any problems with the camera afterwards), does anybody have any comments to this? Scott: The music on the second track is - "chants, hymns and dances" composed by Gurdjieff, performed by Anja Lechner violincello and Vassilis Tsabropoulos piano. ECM New Series 1888, B0003036-02 - Per Johan

March 12th, 2005, 01:23 AM	#11
Frank Aalbers Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Oakland,CA Posts: 135	Beautyfull footage Per ! Love it ! Frank

March 14th, 2005, 04:02 AM	#13
Per Johan Naesje Trustee Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Akershus, Norway Posts: 1,413	Donie, I can tell you that it was veeery windy, in some of the shots. I also used a to small and unstable tripod, so it was almost impossible to shoot any good and stable footage at full telephoto! So, what I learned from this trip was that even if its heavy to carry, bring with you your best and heavyest tripod! - Per Johan

March 18th, 2005, 10:20 PM	#14
Jonathan Jones Trustee Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Healdsburg, California Posts: 1,138	Really really nice stuff. Thanks for sharing - it looked great and was a pleasure to watch. I have a couple of friends who used to live there and they would try to describe to me the beauty of the area. Now, I think I may have a better idea thanks to your work. -Jon

March 18th, 2005, 10:45 PM	#15
John Sandel Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: stately Eldora Road Posts: 386	Wow! This is one of the best things about DV---the clarity and freedom which these sophisticated tools make available to so many people. I really treasure modest-scale work like this: filmmaking in a direct, personal sense. As I watched it, I thought: "It's not just the landscape---anybody could go out and get acceptable imagery from views like that. It's the craft." I mean your craft; your editing (that opening sequence of moonrise & moonset is deeply satisfying); your use of music. The pacing. Really encouraging to see this kind of work, Per. It's like reading a poem you might have written.