DV-PC Recorder at DVinfo.net

Hart Boyd · September 10th, 2004, 06:43 PM

Has anybody downloaded and tried the DV-PC Recorder that the manual or leaflet talks about. I have search over the www.canondv.com website for it without any luck. I went to www.canon.ca.dc-pc_recorder and downloaded it but when trying to install it it errors out. Tried downloading it several time and still get the same error message. Looking for the English version.

Chris Hurd · September 10th, 2004, 09:29 PM

U.S. customers will get this software when they register for the XL2 owner's club. Don't know if it's good for all of North America, though. In my opinion it should be.

I've tried DV-PC Recorder and in a few days I'll be adding an article to the Watchdog about using it in event video production environment. So stay tuned.

Greg Boston · September 11th, 2004, 12:16 AM

Chris,

I thought also that you had to register for the owner's club to get the software. However, one of the included leaflets leads one to believe that anyone can go to the listed URL and download it. I haven't tried to yet. I'm still giving the owner's manual a good read.

-gb-

Hart Boyd · September 11th, 2004, 06:03 AM

I have tried to find the online registration for the XL2 but can only locate the XL1 registration. The form says you can either send it in via snail mail or online. Has anyone found the online registration for the XL2?

Looking forward to your review of the software.

THanks

Pete Bauer · September 11th, 2004, 07:16 AM

Can't find it either. If a go to canondv.com the browser just gets redirected to the Canon consumer home page. The only mention of DV-PC is a comment on it in the features page of the XL2. I could find no sign of the Owner's Club or the software.

I've never had to use Canon support...I hope this isn't reflective of their usual service!

Chris Hurd · September 11th, 2004, 08:44 AM

Well, maybe they've changed their minds since they initially told me about this. Can anybody get the download to work yet?

Hart Boyd · September 11th, 2004, 09:12 AM

Chris,

I have to ask as it appears you have the software and will post a review shortly....Can I get a copy? If not I understand but I am most curious if you have to record to tape and a PC at the same time. One of the benefits Canon list is the ability to break the time barrier of tape and I have an event coming up that is 6 hours straight through.

You can download the software from: http://www.canon.ca/dv-pc_recorder/

but I get the following errors when I try to install it:

DVPCR_V1000.exe Unexpeted EOF
WinSFX32 Could not install.

It appears that the file is corrupt.

Thanks

Chris Hurd · September 11th, 2004, 11:40 AM

Currently I do not have a copy of DV-PC Recorder.

But I've used it before, briefly, once. I'm not sure if you must have a tape in to start recording with it, but the beauty is that you can replace a tape while it's running. The focus of my article will be how to seamlessly change tapes during event videography, using DV-PC Recorder.

Roll Tape 1
Approach end of Tape 1, start DV-PC Recorder
Video written to Hard Drive while you change tapes
Roll Tape 2
Close DV-PC Recorder

That's the idea anyway. Don Berube and I tried this out one time and it worked just fine.

James Emory · September 11th, 2004, 11:41 AM

What exactly is DV-PC Recorder?

Hart Boyd · September 11th, 2004, 11:55 AM

DV-PC Recorder is a software program that enables you to record on the tape in the camcorder and on a computers hard drive by connecting a camcorder equipped with the DV CONTROL function to a computer using a IEEE1394 (DV) cable.

This allows you to start editing the video on the computer right after recording (no transfer time) and it is my understanding that you break the time barrier of the tape and are limited by the hard drive capacity (4 hr 30 minutes on 60GB hard drive).

Hart Boyd · September 11th, 2004, 05:51 PM

Finally found the software and manual at:

http://www.canon-europe.com/xl2/Firm...ageID=222801#1

James Emory · September 11th, 2004, 10:59 PM

Hart, Don't most computers that have firewire (IEEE 1394) already have the ability to load video? My Gateway came with Pinnacle software for simple stuff but it is a very easy way to just load video other than using Premiere that is also on the same machine. From the way you put it, it sounds like there is editing software on the computer. This means you should be able to record to tape and load onto the hard drive simultaneoulsy with the editing software your describing. I can do the very operation that your describing now without the DV-PC software. Other than this, you could use Firestore. What is the scenerio that would require this software you're talking about?

Chris Hurd · September 11th, 2004, 11:06 PM

The advantages of DV-PC Recorder are that it:

a. writes an edit-ready AVI Type I or Type II file, and

b. is controlled by the camera itself

Its primary elegance is in its simplicity and ease of operation. A shooter can use it in production out in the field without getting too distracted by a more complex NLE interface. It's just a capture utility, basically. A poor man's FireStore.

Hart Boyd · September 12th, 2004, 06:00 AM

Chris is right in that the camera controls everthing and is a poor man's Firestore. Other solutions for capturing video require you to control everything from the computer. I am hoping to use the software to capute the video as I usually have my laptop on shoots and will be looking at the FireStore FS-4 when it is released in December for a more mobile solution when required.

James Emory · September 12th, 2004, 11:47 AM

Okay, I understand now. Don't computers that have firewire come with something that can capture, like Movie Maker or something else? That Pinnacle software that I mentioned came bundled with my PC and is crap by the way, but is perfect for an easy way to capture the video which is the only reason I use it. I could use Premiere's capture but it actually takes a few more seconds to prep and believe it or not, it drops frames on extended loads whereas the Pinnacle does not. Why is everything so backwards!? Go figure that one out. I'm pretty sure it's because of the 5400 RPM drive and Premiere's requirements though.

September 10th, 2004, 09:29 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	U.S. customers will get this software when they register for the XL2 owner's club. Don't know if it's good for all of North America, though. In my opinion it should be. I've tried DV-PC Recorder and in a few days I'll be adding an article to the Watchdog about using it in event video production environment. So stay tuned. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 11th, 2004, 07:16 AM	#5
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Can't find it either. If a go to canondv.com the browser just gets redirected to the Canon consumer home page. The only mention of DV-PC is a comment on it in the features page of the XL2. I could find no sign of the Owner's Club or the software. I've never had to use Canon support...I hope this isn't reflective of their usual service! __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

September 11th, 2004, 08:44 AM	#6
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Well, maybe they've changed their minds since they initially told me about this. Can anybody get the download to work yet? __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 11th, 2004, 11:40 AM	#8
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Currently I do not have a copy of DV-PC Recorder. But I've used it before, briefly, once. I'm not sure if you must have a tape in to start recording with it, but the beauty is that you can replace a tape while it's running. The focus of my article will be how to seamlessly change tapes during event videography, using DV-PC Recorder. Roll Tape 1 Approach end of Tape 1, start DV-PC Recorder Video written to Hard Drive while you change tapes Roll Tape 2 Close DV-PC Recorder That's the idea anyway. Don Berube and I tried this out one time and it worked just fine. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 11th, 2004, 11:06 PM	#13
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	The advantages of DV-PC Recorder are that it: a. writes an edit-ready AVI Type I or Type II file, and b. is controlled by the camera itself Its primary elegance is in its simplicity and ease of operation. A shooter can use it in production out in the field without getting too distracted by a more complex NLE interface. It's just a capture utility, basically. A poor man's FireStore. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 10th, 2004, 06:43 PM	#1
Hart Boyd Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 148	DV-PC Recorder Has anybody downloaded and tried the DV-PC Recorder that the manual or leaflet talks about. I have search over the www.canondv.com website for it without any luck. I went to www.canon.ca.dc-pc_recorder and downloaded it but when trying to install it it errors out. Tried downloading it several time and still get the same error message. Looking for the English version.

September 11th, 2004, 12:16 AM	#3
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	Chris, I thought also that you had to register for the owner's club to get the software. However, one of the included leaflets leads one to believe that anyone can go to the listed URL and download it. I haven't tried to yet. I'm still giving the owner's manual a good read. -gb-

September 11th, 2004, 06:03 AM	#4
Hart Boyd Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 148	I have tried to find the online registration for the XL2 but can only locate the XL1 registration. The form says you can either send it in via snail mail or online. Has anyone found the online registration for the XL2? Looking forward to your review of the software. THanks

September 11th, 2004, 09:12 AM	#7
Hart Boyd Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 148	Chris, I have to ask as it appears you have the software and will post a review shortly....Can I get a copy? If not I understand but I am most curious if you have to record to tape and a PC at the same time. One of the benefits Canon list is the ability to break the time barrier of tape and I have an event coming up that is 6 hours straight through. You can download the software from: http://www.canon.ca/dv-pc_recorder/ but I get the following errors when I try to install it: DVPCR_V1000.exe Unexpeted EOF WinSFX32 Could not install. It appears that the file is corrupt. Thanks

September 11th, 2004, 11:41 AM	#9
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	What exactly is DV-PC Recorder?

September 11th, 2004, 11:55 AM	#10
Hart Boyd Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 148	DV-PC Recorder is a software program that enables you to record on the tape in the camcorder and on a computers hard drive by connecting a camcorder equipped with the DV CONTROL function to a computer using a IEEE1394 (DV) cable. This allows you to start editing the video on the computer right after recording (no transfer time) and it is my understanding that you break the time barrier of the tape and are limited by the hard drive capacity (4 hr 30 minutes on 60GB hard drive).

September 11th, 2004, 05:51 PM	#11
Hart Boyd Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 148	Finally found the software and manual at: http://www.canon-europe.com/xl2/Firm...ageID=222801#1

September 11th, 2004, 10:59 PM	#12
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Hart, Don't most computers that have firewire (IEEE 1394) already have the ability to load video? My Gateway came with Pinnacle software for simple stuff but it is a very easy way to just load video other than using Premiere that is also on the same machine. From the way you put it, it sounds like there is editing software on the computer. This means you should be able to record to tape and load onto the hard drive simultaneoulsy with the editing software your describing. I can do the very operation that your describing now without the DV-PC software. Other than this, you could use Firestore. What is the scenerio that would require this software you're talking about?

September 12th, 2004, 06:00 AM	#14
Hart Boyd Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 148	Chris is right in that the camera controls everthing and is a poor man's Firestore. Other solutions for capturing video require you to control everything from the computer. I am hoping to use the software to capute the video as I usually have my laptop on shoots and will be looking at the FireStore FS-4 when it is released in December for a more mobile solution when required.

September 12th, 2004, 11:47 AM	#15
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Okay, I understand now. Don't computers that have firewire come with something that can capture, like Movie Maker or something else? That Pinnacle software that I mentioned came bundled with my PC and is crap by the way, but is perfect for an easy way to capture the video which is the only reason I use it. I could use Premiere's capture but it actually takes a few more seconds to prep and believe it or not, it drops frames on extended loads whereas the Pinnacle does not. Why is everything so backwards!? Go figure that one out. I'm pretty sure it's because of the 5400 RPM drive and Premiere's requirements though.