XL2 Arrived.....WOW! at DVinfo.net

Greg Milneck · September 6th, 2004, 04:17 PM

I received my XL2 friday....I am blown away.

I also own 3 Betacams, Sony PD150 and a Sony DVW-790WS Digital Betacam.

My first tests with the XL2 have blown me away. I will post a review shortly.

FYI-
I ordered from www.ebuyer.com.
$4450 + $35 overnight shipping. Ordered on Thursday Sept 2nd and received on Friday the 3rd.
All the other sites were around $4999.

Kevin Lepp · September 6th, 2004, 04:28 PM

What a deal! I'll have to check that out!

Looking forward to a review.

cheers,

Greg Milneck · September 6th, 2004, 04:32 PM

fyi-
when I ordered the site said "7 days"...I called CS and was told it was in stock and to place order online (they wouldnt take a phone order). I received it by 10am the next day.

Don Berube · September 6th, 2004, 04:58 PM

Hi Greg,

Am very interested in what your thoughts are about the camera.

Please feel free to share some footage with us and at least tell us how the XL2 stands up to your higher-end and higher-priced Beta and DIgi-Beta cams as far as giving you the output you need in your work.

Am very much looking forward to hearing back from you.

Best regards,

- don

Antoine Fabi · September 6th, 2004, 05:02 PM

Greg,

i would like to hear your comments about the XL2's dynamic range.

thanks

Jim Giberti · September 6th, 2004, 07:24 PM

I don't want to gush about this thing, but my first and now third day impressions are right there with Greg's. I shot a political spot with the Mini35 and XL1s the day before the XL2 arrived (don't ask who <g>). It was a real image piece intercut with historical footage. All the candidate footage was shot pondside at golden hour with some nice supporting lighting.

I haven't had time to do an A/B with both setups yet, but at sunset today I grabbed the XL2 and shot Kris sit at the same location (the spot was shot at our farm for aesthetics and everything was still in place from the shoot).

Anyway, wow again. No lighting this time...just the exact same location and props and using the setting sun for a kicker, about a 1 minute setup versus a 4 hour setup with a crew. I'd use this footage in a heartbeat.

And for the record, the budget for these things cetrtainly allow for film.

Charles Papert · September 7th, 2004, 01:39 AM

So Jim, my question to you is: if the budget allows for film, why not shoot film? Are the savings being passed on to you, I hope?

Jim Giberti · September 7th, 2004, 02:09 AM

<<So Jim, my question to you is: if the budget allows for film, why not shoot film? Are the savings being passed on to you, I hope?>>

Yeah Charles...because we're the creative shop that does the concept and writing as well as the production, pretty much everything we do is on a project basis. So if I can deliver the quality without the expense and more extensive nature of film production, then it's a plus all around.

I also like working small and find more and more clients like it too. I recently got an opportunity to do some I Love NY stuff for that reason and because of the "looser" nature compared to what they regularly shoot. A good deal of the comment was about the time and extent of the 35mm work they regularly get.

We're more the guerilla style of production.

Dave Perry · September 7th, 2004, 06:21 AM

Greg,

I could not find the XL 2 at www.ebuyer.com.

Chris Sorensen · September 7th, 2004, 07:12 AM

I couldn't either at first. But do a search for Canon xl2 and you'll get it.

Tre Stylez · September 7th, 2004, 07:59 AM

I had trouble finding the XL2 on the site, however if you look on the left hand side down the bottom you can be either logged in as ENGLAND/USA choose usa and go http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdW N0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=150042 or just do a canon XL2 search and it is indeed that price which i find as a shock :O

Scott Aston · September 7th, 2004, 08:22 AM

I found that price at Ebuyer.com a shock as well. Almost made me wonder if it was one of those scam sites. But the guy said he got his camera and all the accessories, so I guess it is for real.

I found another online dealer that was selling the XL2 for $4199.00 So I called them, and of course it was a New York dealer with no reseller rating. The sales guy listed all the standard accessories and with USA warranty and that he had two in stock. Probably a scam..that price is just too low.

Dealer link: http://www.1-877camcorder.com/xl2.html

Dave Perry · September 7th, 2004, 09:02 AM

I found it. My original search had a space between the "L" and the "2".

Jeff Donald · September 7th, 2004, 09:08 AM

Please confine the discussion to the merits of the camera and refrain from discussing dealers who are not our sponsors. Thanks for your consideration in this matter.

Antoine Fabi · September 7th, 2004, 10:40 AM

Greg,

how is the dynamic range of the XL2 compared to other 1/3 CCDs camcorders (DVX100 PD170) ?

thanks

September 6th, 2004, 04:17 PM	#1
Greg Milneck Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 145	XL2 Arrived.....WOW! I received my XL2 friday....I am blown away. I also own 3 Betacams, Sony PD150 and a Sony DVW-790WS Digital Betacam. My first tests with the XL2 have blown me away. I will post a review shortly. FYI- I ordered from www.ebuyer.com. $4450 + $35 overnight shipping. Ordered on Thursday Sept 2nd and received on Friday the 3rd. All the other sites were around $4999. __________________ www.digitalfx.tv

September 6th, 2004, 04:28 PM	#2
Kevin Lepp Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 38	What a deal! I'll have to check that out! Looking forward to a review. cheers, __________________ Kevin

September 6th, 2004, 04:32 PM	#3
Greg Milneck Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 145	fyi- when I ordered the site said "7 days"...I called CS and was told it was in stock and to place order online (they wouldnt take a phone order). I received it by 10am the next day. __________________ www.digitalfx.tv

September 6th, 2004, 04:58 PM	#4
Don Berube Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston, MA (travel frequently) Posts: 837	Hi Greg, Am very interested in what your thoughts are about the camera. Please feel free to share some footage with us and at least tell us how the XL2 stands up to your higher-end and higher-priced Beta and DIgi-Beta cams as far as giving you the output you need in your work. Am very much looking forward to hearing back from you. Best regards, - don __________________ DONALD BERUBE - noisybrain. Productions, LLC Director Of Photography/ Producer/ Consultant http://noisybrain.com/donbio.html CREATE and NETWORK with http://www.bosfcpug.org and also http://fcpugnetwork.org

September 7th, 2004, 01:39 AM	#7
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	So Jim, my question to you is: if the budget allows for film, why not shoot film? Are the savings being passed on to you, I hope? __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

September 6th, 2004, 05:02 PM	#5
Antoine Fabi Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: sherbrooke (Quebec) Canada Posts: 108	Greg, i would like to hear your comments about the XL2's dynamic range. thanks

September 6th, 2004, 07:24 PM	#6
Jim Giberti Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bethel, VT Posts: 824	I don't want to gush about this thing, but my first and now third day impressions are right there with Greg's. I shot a political spot with the Mini35 and XL1s the day before the XL2 arrived (don't ask who <g>). It was a real image piece intercut with historical footage. All the candidate footage was shot pondside at golden hour with some nice supporting lighting. I haven't had time to do an A/B with both setups yet, but at sunset today I grabbed the XL2 and shot Kris sit at the same location (the spot was shot at our farm for aesthetics and everything was still in place from the shoot). Anyway, wow again. No lighting this time...just the exact same location and props and using the setting sun for a kicker, about a 1 minute setup versus a 4 hour setup with a crew. I'd use this footage in a heartbeat. And for the record, the budget for these things cetrtainly allow for film.

September 7th, 2004, 02:09 AM	#8
Jim Giberti Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bethel, VT Posts: 824	<<So Jim, my question to you is: if the budget allows for film, why not shoot film? Are the savings being passed on to you, I hope?>> Yeah Charles...because we're the creative shop that does the concept and writing as well as the production, pretty much everything we do is on a project basis. So if I can deliver the quality without the expense and more extensive nature of film production, then it's a plus all around. I also like working small and find more and more clients like it too. I recently got an opportunity to do some I Love NY stuff for that reason and because of the "looser" nature compared to what they regularly shoot. A good deal of the comment was about the time and extent of the 35mm work they regularly get. We're more the guerilla style of production.

September 7th, 2004, 06:21 AM	#9
Dave Perry Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 796	Greg, I could not find the XL 2 at www.ebuyer.com. __________________ Dave Perry Cinematographer LLC Director of Photography • Editor • Digital Film Production • 540.915.2752 • daveperry.net

September 7th, 2004, 07:12 AM	#10
Chris Sorensen Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 61	I couldn't either at first. But do a search for Canon xl2 and you'll get it.

September 7th, 2004, 07:59 AM	#11
Tre Stylez New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NSW, AUSTRALIA Posts: 18	I had trouble finding the XL2 on the site, however if you look on the left hand side down the bottom you can be either logged in as ENGLAND/USA choose usa and go http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdW N0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=150042 or just do a canon XL2 search and it is indeed that price which i find as a shock :O

September 7th, 2004, 08:22 AM	#12
Scott Aston Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 75	I found that price at Ebuyer.com a shock as well. Almost made me wonder if it was one of those scam sites. But the guy said he got his camera and all the accessories, so I guess it is for real. I found another online dealer that was selling the XL2 for $4199.00 So I called them, and of course it was a New York dealer with no reseller rating. The sales guy listed all the standard accessories and with USA warranty and that he had two in stock. Probably a scam..that price is just too low. Dealer link: http://www.1-877camcorder.com/xl2.html __________________ Scott Aston Eyecon Pictures, Inc.

September 7th, 2004, 09:02 AM	#13
Dave Perry Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 796	I found it. My original search had a space between the "L" and the "2". __________________ Dave Perry Cinematographer LLC Director of Photography • Editor • Digital Film Production • 540.915.2752 • daveperry.net

September 7th, 2004, 09:08 AM	#14
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Please confine the discussion to the merits of the camera and refrain from discussing dealers who are not our sponsors. Thanks for your consideration in this matter. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

September 7th, 2004, 10:40 AM	#15
Antoine Fabi Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: sherbrooke (Quebec) Canada Posts: 108	Greg, how is the dynamic range of the XL2 compared to other 1/3 CCDs camcorders (DVX100 PD170) ? thanks