Possibility in seeing XL2 bit earlier

Barry Goyette · August 6th, 2004, 09:58 AM

Thanks, Kaku, for taking the time to explore all our questions, and for provide a very nice analysis of the camera....

<<Barry, I thought maybe the GL2 users had more detailed impressins of fluorite lens since they have experience in the lens with the material, not to mix up the ability of the type of the lens. But come to think about it, GL2 has nothing similar to compre. Our impression of fluorite lens by swithing between x3 lens might explain the difference well.>>

I've always felt that the flourite lense on the gl2 is superior to the 16x IS-II lens on the xl1s...and while I own the 3x lens...I think I've used it once, as I really dislike the image I've gotten from it. How was your feeling about the 3x on the xl2...do you consider the image to be acceptable? (albeit lower in quality than the new 20x)

Barry

Kaku Ito · August 6th, 2004, 10:09 AM

I'm glad that I could be a help.

The footage was very good.

Marty Hudzik · August 6th, 2004, 10:41 AM

I know it's a bit off topic but any word from the Canon guys on a release date? I know the end of August- beginning of September. I was hoping that maybe you might have heard some inside info on a more concrete accurate date.

Thanks again!

Kaku Ito · August 6th, 2004, 10:52 AM

Marty,

The dealer person mentioned it will be after 20th. I did not make any special request about getting it earlier. I don't push those things. However, they might bring the demo unit few days before for me to look at more. Sorry did not answer sooner.

Barry,

New lens seemed to be brighter than x3 lens. But I thought I still need the x3 lens for indoor shooting. The widest perspection with x3 looked very nice and wide.

Forgot few things to mention.
Canon people appreciate feedback from users in U.S. and other world. They said the most improvements are based on the user feedback in U.S..

They mentioned that XL2 is 16:9 native. They commited more for the future format than trying to make the XL2 based on 4:3. Great move.

Christopher Reynolds · August 6th, 2004, 04:55 PM

Kaku,
You have my most sincere thanks. You have done a tremendous job reporting to the community here on your experience with the XL2! I am very pleased with what I've heard from you, and this bolsters my determination to pay off my bills and purchase an XL2 to accompany my XL1s on future shooting endeavors. I thank you again Kaku for your effort on enlightening the community!!!

Robert J. Wolff · August 8th, 2004, 09:07 AM

Kaku.

Did you happen to observe whether the shoulder pad could be removed?

Marty Hudzik · August 8th, 2004, 09:18 AM

I thought I read here before that it is not designed to be removed. However with a trusty screwdriver it could be taken off anyway.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Chris Hurd · August 8th, 2004, 02:25 PM

I can confirm that it's not intended to be removed.

To remove it you would need not only a screwdriver, but also some wire cutters. Ouch, there goes the warranty!

Kaku Ito · August 8th, 2004, 06:09 PM

The shoulder pad has two channels of XLR connectors, so as Chris says, it is not intended to removed.

Robert J. Wolff · August 8th, 2004, 06:14 PM

Bummer. As a wild life shooter, I don't like to carry any unnecessary equipment. And if there is one item I don't need , it's this one that can't be left behind.

Thanks Kaku, and Marty and Chris.

Yi Fong Yu · August 8th, 2004, 09:41 PM

kaku,

do you feel that the 3x on XL2 has more resolution than 3x on the Xl1s? i just got one of those 3x lens. i wanna keep it for the XL2.

Kaku Ito · August 8th, 2004, 10:17 PM

What I can say at this point is that, there was cleaer difference in the new lens and the x3 lens. I can't say x3 works better with XL2 than XL1 and XL1s for sure, but the new higher resolution ccd will improve the image over all. So I would say your x3 lens would be usefull. I would hope Canon comes out with the new version of x3 lens in the future.

Yi Fong Yu · August 9th, 2004, 07:22 AM

thx for reply.

Kaku Ito · August 9th, 2004, 09:47 AM

no sweat.

I found out that Canon Japan is having a preview event on 27th of Aug..
Which means XL2 won't be available until then.

Marty Hudzik · August 9th, 2004, 10:10 AM

I really hope it isn't long after that! I have a few jobs in the 2nd week of September and was hoping to use it for those!

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August 8th, 2004, 06:14 PM	#25
Robert J. Wolff Major Player Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Adirondacks of New York Posts: 210	Bummer. As a wild life shooter, I don't like to carry any unnecessary equipment. And if there is one item I don't need , it's this one that can't be left behind. Thanks Kaku, and Marty and Chris. __________________ Himself

August 8th, 2004, 09:41 PM	#26
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	kaku, do you feel that the 3x on XL2 has more resolution than 3x on the Xl1s? i just got one of those 3x lens. i wanna keep it for the XL2. __________________ bow wow wow

August 9th, 2004, 07:22 AM	#28
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	thx for reply. __________________ bow wow wow

August 6th, 2004, 09:58 AM	#16
Barry Goyette Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo CA Posts: 1,195	Thanks, Kaku, for taking the time to explore all our questions, and for provide a very nice analysis of the camera.... <<Barry, I thought maybe the GL2 users had more detailed impressins of fluorite lens since they have experience in the lens with the material, not to mix up the ability of the type of the lens. But come to think about it, GL2 has nothing similar to compre. Our impression of fluorite lens by swithing between x3 lens might explain the difference well.>> I've always felt that the flourite lense on the gl2 is superior to the 16x IS-II lens on the xl1s...and while I own the 3x lens...I think I've used it once, as I really dislike the image I've gotten from it. How was your feeling about the 3x on the xl2...do you consider the image to be acceptable? (albeit lower in quality than the new 20x) Barry

August 6th, 2004, 10:09 AM	#17
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	I'm glad that I could be a help. The footage was very good.

August 6th, 2004, 10:41 AM	#18
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	I know it's a bit off topic but any word from the Canon guys on a release date? I know the end of August- beginning of September. I was hoping that maybe you might have heard some inside info on a more concrete accurate date. Thanks again!

August 6th, 2004, 10:52 AM	#19
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	Marty, The dealer person mentioned it will be after 20th. I did not make any special request about getting it earlier. I don't push those things. However, they might bring the demo unit few days before for me to look at more. Sorry did not answer sooner. Barry, New lens seemed to be brighter than x3 lens. But I thought I still need the x3 lens for indoor shooting. The widest perspection with x3 looked very nice and wide. Forgot few things to mention. Canon people appreciate feedback from users in U.S. and other world. They said the most improvements are based on the user feedback in U.S.. They mentioned that XL2 is 16:9 native. They commited more for the future format than trying to make the XL2 based on 4:3. Great move.

August 6th, 2004, 04:55 PM	#20
Christopher Reynolds Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Canton, Ohio Posts: 109	Kaku, You have my most sincere thanks. You have done a tremendous job reporting to the community here on your experience with the XL2! I am very pleased with what I've heard from you, and this bolsters my determination to pay off my bills and purchase an XL2 to accompany my XL1s on future shooting endeavors. I thank you again Kaku for your effort on enlightening the community!!!

August 8th, 2004, 09:18 AM	#22
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	I thought I read here before that it is not designed to be removed. However with a trusty screwdriver it could be taken off anyway. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

August 8th, 2004, 06:09 PM	#24
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	The shoulder pad has two channels of XLR connectors, so as Chris says, it is not intended to removed.

August 8th, 2004, 10:17 PM	#27
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	What I can say at this point is that, there was cleaer difference in the new lens and the x3 lens. I can't say x3 works better with XL2 than XL1 and XL1s for sure, but the new higher resolution ccd will improve the image over all. So I would say your x3 lens would be usefull. I would hope Canon comes out with the new version of x3 lens in the future.

August 9th, 2004, 09:47 AM	#29
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	no sweat. I found out that Canon Japan is having a preview event on 27th of Aug.. Which means XL2 won't be available until then.

August 9th, 2004, 10:10 AM	#30
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	I really hope it isn't long after that! I have a few jobs in the 2nd week of September and was hoping to use it for those!