Frame Grabs Please!

Daniel Broadway · July 16th, 2004, 09:47 PM

JPEGS are better than nothing. Just set compression quality to the highest setting. We will still be able to see how well the XL2 performs.

Chris Hurd · July 16th, 2004, 10:07 PM

You know instead of registering with some service or whatever, why not just email 'em to me, we have tons of storage space and server bandwidth for this sort of thing, and I'm happy to host them. Thanks,

Chippe Wallace · July 17th, 2004, 11:42 AM

hmm.. great server bandwidth. I guess Im the only one who can't download the complete videoclips :-( ..it stops after a few minutes.

Mark Grgurev · July 17th, 2004, 12:15 PM

Did ya get the frame grabs, Chris?

Kevin Lepp · July 17th, 2004, 03:09 PM

... http://static.dvinfo.net/simonb/clown25p.mov ..

lets see if it works now

Chippe Wallace · July 17th, 2004, 04:47 PM

Nope... none of my friends can download it either :-/ ...it just stops downloading after a few minutes. ..wondering whats wrong.

Daniel von Euw · July 17th, 2004, 05:10 PM

I have the same problem form Germany.

The download of the "clown50i" file from www.xl1s.com has work.

regards
Daniel

Chippe Wallace · July 17th, 2004, 05:19 PM

wow.. then u're lucky all I could download was the tiff file and 40 megs of the clip (pretty close). It didnt go very fast but at 95kb/sec from the dvinfo server the speed shouldn't be the problem. Well I wish myself luck in the future :-)

Michael F. Grgurev · July 18th, 2004, 01:16 PM

Okay, here are some frame grabs from the DV Expo's film noir scene, that my brother (Mark) promised. I managed to upload them to my old Aol webspace. We came across the fact a couple of the frames became interlaced.. due to using 2:3 instead of 2:3:3:2.. we believe. On clips you can try a 3:2 pulldown to fix those frames.

http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab1.tif
http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab2.tif
http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab3.tif
http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab4.tif
http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab5.tif
http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab6.tif
http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab7.tif
http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab8.tif

As far as settings are concerned, everything was done in camera, of course, with the CineGamma on and I believe the Black setting set to press. The setup levels and pedestal were also tweaked, don't remember the exact settings. The b&ws were done with the color gain all the way done and the colors were done with the c-gain still down a couple notches as well as the red gain down a bit with the CineMatrix on. All of the shots were done with the film grain on.. forgot to take some with it off.

Michael F. Grgurev · July 18th, 2004, 01:27 PM

Oh yeah, incase anyones wondering... the color images were taken when one of the Canon guys went a little overboard with the fog machine. ; ) One of the Canon guys rushing into the set to help clear out the fog was the guy who shot all the XL2 demo videos from the Expo. Which is what the XL2 intro clips on CanonDV.com are of.

I'll be looking into posting some of the video on a pertinent threat.

Chris Hurd · July 18th, 2004, 01:42 PM

Michael

I should probably discuss this with you offline -- but this is quicker -- the ones you sent, I couldn't open. But I can grab the ones you just linked to and upload 'em to our house to take the pressure of your server if you want. A short video clip should be no problem either.

I was around when the fog machine went bonkers -- talk about a glitch, I think people were convinced something was seriously wrong when they thought it was smoke and not fog. It was a laughable moment after it finally cleared.

Michael F. Grgurev · July 18th, 2004, 03:57 PM

Sounds good Chris. Lemme know when that's done.

Here's a link to a short b&w clip I put together from the scene.
It's compressed with mpeg2 so it'll fit on my webspace. I preadjusted the aspect ration and did the pulldown in after effects first before rendering it in premiere.

Since the audio was just a garble of background noise, I threw in something else to set the clips mood :}

http://members.aol.com/oiojohnlennon...mpeg2clip1.mpg

I'll post a color clip soon too.

Chris Hurd · July 18th, 2004, 04:04 PM

Mark, see http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxl2/images/grgurev/.

Thanks,

Mark Grgurev · July 18th, 2004, 04:54 PM

So, what does everyone think of the images my bro posted?

Chippe Wallace · July 19th, 2004, 03:12 PM

The b&w clip looked great.

July 16th, 2004, 10:07 PM	#32
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	You know instead of registering with some service or whatever, why not just email 'em to me, we have tons of storage space and server bandwidth for this sort of thing, and I'm happy to host them. Thanks, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

July 17th, 2004, 03:09 PM	#35
Kevin Lepp Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 38	this link wasnt clickin for me ... http://static.dvinfo.net/simonb/clown25p.mov .. lets see if it works now __________________ Kevin

July 18th, 2004, 01:42 PM	#41
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Michael I should probably discuss this with you offline -- but this is quicker -- the ones you sent, I couldn't open. But I can grab the ones you just linked to and upload 'em to our house to take the pressure of your server if you want. A short video clip should be no problem either. I was around when the fog machine went bonkers -- talk about a glitch, I think people were convinced something was seriously wrong when they thought it was smoke and not fog. It was a laughable moment after it finally cleared. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

July 18th, 2004, 04:04 PM	#43
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Mark, see http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxl2/images/grgurev/. Thanks, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

July 16th, 2004, 09:47 PM	#31
Daniel Broadway Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 165	JPEGS are better than nothing. Just set compression quality to the highest setting. We will still be able to see how well the XL2 performs.

July 17th, 2004, 11:42 AM	#33
Chippe Wallace New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 22	hmm.. great server bandwidth. I guess Im the only one who can't download the complete videoclips :-( ..it stops after a few minutes.

July 17th, 2004, 12:15 PM	#34
Mark Grgurev Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fairview,nj Posts: 137	Did ya get the frame grabs, Chris?

July 17th, 2004, 04:47 PM	#36
Chippe Wallace New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 22	Nope... none of my friends can download it either :-/ ...it just stops downloading after a few minutes. ..wondering whats wrong.

July 17th, 2004, 05:10 PM	#37
Daniel von Euw Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Köln, NRW, Germany Posts: 70	I have the same problem form Germany. The download of the "clown50i" file from www.xl1s.com has work. regards Daniel

July 17th, 2004, 05:19 PM	#38
Chippe Wallace New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 22	wow.. then u're lucky all I could download was the tiff file and 40 megs of the clip (pretty close). It didnt go very fast but at 95kb/sec from the dvinfo server the speed shouldn't be the problem. Well I wish myself luck in the future :-)

July 18th, 2004, 01:16 PM	#39
Michael F. Grgurev New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fairview, NJ Posts: 22	Okay, here are some frame grabs from the DV Expo's film noir scene, that my brother (Mark) promised. I managed to upload them to my old Aol webspace. We came across the fact a couple of the frames became interlaced.. due to using 2:3 instead of 2:3:3:2.. we believe. On clips you can try a 3:2 pulldown to fix those frames. http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab1.tif http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab2.tif http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab3.tif http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab4.tif http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab5.tif http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab6.tif http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab7.tif http://members.aol.com/grgurmg/xl2noir/framegrab8.tif As far as settings are concerned, everything was done in camera, of course, with the CineGamma on and I believe the Black setting set to press. The setup levels and pedestal were also tweaked, don't remember the exact settings. The b&ws were done with the color gain all the way done and the colors were done with the c-gain still down a couple notches as well as the red gain down a bit with the CineMatrix on. All of the shots were done with the film grain on.. forgot to take some with it off.

July 18th, 2004, 01:27 PM	#40
Michael F. Grgurev New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fairview, NJ Posts: 22	Oh yeah, incase anyones wondering... the color images were taken when one of the Canon guys went a little overboard with the fog machine. ; ) One of the Canon guys rushing into the set to help clear out the fog was the guy who shot all the XL2 demo videos from the Expo. Which is what the XL2 intro clips on CanonDV.com are of. I'll be looking into posting some of the video on a pertinent threat.

July 18th, 2004, 03:57 PM	#42
Michael F. Grgurev New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fairview, NJ Posts: 22	Sounds good Chris. Lemme know when that's done. Here's a link to a short b&w clip I put together from the scene. It's compressed with mpeg2 so it'll fit on my webspace. I preadjusted the aspect ration and did the pulldown in after effects first before rendering it in premiere. Since the audio was just a garble of background noise, I threw in something else to set the clips mood :} http://members.aol.com/oiojohnlennon...mpeg2clip1.mpg I'll post a color clip soon too.

July 18th, 2004, 04:54 PM	#44
Mark Grgurev Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fairview,nj Posts: 137	So, what does everyone think of the images my bro posted?

July 19th, 2004, 03:12 PM	#45
Chippe Wallace New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 22	The b&w clip looked great.