20x zoom lens -- various topics

Greg Jacobson · March 16th, 2005, 01:35 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : I don't see any reason why you could not have both the 1.6x extender plus the Century teleconverter both on at the same time.

Greg, have you seen this? http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/images/images17.php -->>>

sweet :) I was thinking about picking up a 400mm lens. Never have seen one of those beasts in that article.

My beef with still photography is no matter how big a lens you use you still can't really zoom in from far away but with the XL2 and using the same lenses you can see some amazing details.

Is there any other video camera that can use Canon lenses?

Terence Reis · March 17th, 2005, 08:04 PM

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Greg Jacobson · March 17th, 2005, 09:27 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Greg Jacobson : <<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : I don't see any reason why you could not have both the 1.6x extender plus the Century teleconverter both on at the same time.

Greg, have you seen this? http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/images/images17.php -->>>

sweet :) I was thinking about picking up a 400mm lens. Never have seen one of those beasts in that article.

My beef with still photography is no matter how big a lens you use you still can't really zoom in from far away but with the XL2 and using the same lenses you can see some amazing details.

Is there any other video camera that can use Canon lenses? -->>>

kewl!

March 31st, 2005, 12:44 AM

Recently got my new XL2 and when I turn the camera on the lens makes two loud clicking sounds that sound more like pops. Does everybody's 20X lens do this. I thought it was a problem with the image stabilizer, but it seems to work a little bit. Otherwise, great camera, beautiful picture. Glad I founf this messageboard. It has answered a lot of questions. Thanks.

Jon Bickford · March 31st, 2005, 01:40 AM

i've had that problem as well, you can see an element sorta jiggle in the lense when it happens, right at start up, after that no problems

Geoffrey Engelbrecht · March 31st, 2005, 02:18 AM

I never had that sort of sound. I find the VCR gives off a low clicking noise every 10 seconds for the first 15 minutes of operation but after that is dead silent. My lens is relatively quiet during startup.

Richard Hunter · March 31st, 2005, 02:38 AM

Nope, so far I haven't noticed such a sound Scott.

Richard

Ben Bowles · April 1st, 2005, 11:10 AM

Yep, I hear 2 loud clicks right when the camera is turned on. Don't know if it's the image stabilizer or not because it still happens when the image stabilizer is off and the camera is powered up. I just assumed it was normal, hope is not a problem.

Ben

Christian Asnieres · April 1st, 2005, 11:16 AM

No clicks thus far.

Christian

Travis Andersen · April 1st, 2005, 12:40 PM

Mine did click, then the zoom would stutter violently. Send it back to B&H for a new one. The newer on does click at start up but all is fine.

Ed Bicker · April 1st, 2005, 12:56 PM

Hello Folks...I believe this is a normal response for the 20X lens. Upon turning on the lens, there will be an imgae shift adjust which is quite normal. Do not worry about this. I spoke with Canon rep as well and he confirmed this to be the case. My 20X does the same. Nothing to worry about.

John Sandel · April 1st, 2005, 08:09 PM

What's that? What's shifting and why?

Lon Breedlove · April 2nd, 2005, 03:29 AM

My guess would be that that is the stabalization mechanism inside the camera, and when it starts up it just has to calibrate or something.

From everyone I have talked to, the shaking is normal, but I cannot defend the clicking noise.

Make sure when you turn that bad boy on, the lens cap should be removed first. Also, make sure that the lens is locked into place. Otherwise, contact your retailer.

-Lon

Jon Bickford · April 2nd, 2005, 07:26 AM

it's a pretty unnerving click, VERY noticeable almost, i shutter to say, like a plastic gear slipping.

i once rented a panasonic 24p where the focus element was completely loose, you could tilt the camera up and down and try to balance it into focus, obviously it was returned, i'd hate to think it would be something like that

Kevin Janisch · April 12th, 2005, 12:15 PM

Maybe my experience this past weekend can shed some light on this "clicking" phenomenon. My XL2 did not have the clicking noises on start up when I first got it. Went shooting this past Sunday and noticed a random out of focus black fuzz moving in the viewfinder. Clean out the view finder and lens filter. 20 minutes later and it was back. So I think there is a bug between my filter and the lens. Upon closer inspection, there was a bug inside of the actual 20x lens!!! How he got in there I don't know, but man he I was pissed to say the least. When I put the lens cap on for a few minutes and then take it off, he would not be visible. My guess is without light coming through the lens, he can see the light coming in from wherever he entered and was trying to exit. Anyhow, I shoot through the evening and the next day, no sign of him. So either he got out or died. But around mid day, when coming out of standby, I hear the 2 clicks and immediately remembered this posting. Coincidence, I don't think so. So maybe he gummed up something which is causing the noise. Operationally everything seems fine, but I will be sending it in to Canon the first chance I get.

Kevin

March 17th, 2005, 08:04 PM	#77
Terence Reis New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Waipahu, Hawaii Posts: 24	XL2, 600mm, 2x For whatever it's worth..... http://www.surfshooterhawaii.com/clipstream/moon1.html Aloha, Terry Reis Surf Shooter Hawaii Waikele, Hawaii http://www.surfshooterhawaii.com __________________ Shredder

March 31st, 2005, 12:44 AM	#79
Guest Posts: n/a	new 20X problem Recently got my new XL2 and when I turn the camera on the lens makes two loud clicking sounds that sound more like pops. Does everybody's 20X lens do this. I thought it was a problem with the image stabilizer, but it seems to work a little bit. Otherwise, great camera, beautiful picture. Glad I founf this messageboard. It has answered a lot of questions. Thanks.

March 31st, 2005, 01:40 AM	#80
Jon Bickford Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV., Los Angeles, CA, Posts: 220	i've had that problem as well, you can see an element sorta jiggle in the lense when it happens, right at start up, after that no problems __________________ Jon Bickford, Trepany Films San Pedro, CA Trephine001@aol.com

April 1st, 2005, 08:09 PM	#87
John Sandel Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: stately Eldora Road Posts: 386	"image shift adjust" What's that? What's shifting and why?

April 2nd, 2005, 07:26 AM	#89
Jon Bickford Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV., Los Angeles, CA, Posts: 220	it's a pretty unnerving click, VERY noticeable almost, i shutter to say, like a plastic gear slipping. i once rented a panasonic 24p where the focus element was completely loose, you could tilt the camera up and down and try to balance it into focus, obviously it was returned, i'd hate to think it would be something like that __________________ Jon Bickford, Trepany Films San Pedro, CA Trephine001@aol.com

March 16th, 2005, 01:35 PM	#76
Greg Jacobson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 141	<<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : I don't see any reason why you could not have both the 1.6x extender plus the Century teleconverter both on at the same time. Greg, have you seen this? http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/images/images17.php -->>> sweet :) I was thinking about picking up a 400mm lens. Never have seen one of those beasts in that article. My beef with still photography is no matter how big a lens you use you still can't really zoom in from far away but with the XL2 and using the same lenses you can see some amazing details. Is there any other video camera that can use Canon lenses?

March 17th, 2005, 09:27 PM	#78
Greg Jacobson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 141	<<<-- Originally posted by Greg Jacobson : <<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd : I don't see any reason why you could not have both the 1.6x extender plus the Century teleconverter both on at the same time. Greg, have you seen this? http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/images/images17.php -->>> sweet :) I was thinking about picking up a 400mm lens. Never have seen one of those beasts in that article. My beef with still photography is no matter how big a lens you use you still can't really zoom in from far away but with the XL2 and using the same lenses you can see some amazing details. Is there any other video camera that can use Canon lenses? -->>> kewl!

March 31st, 2005, 02:18 AM	#81
Geoffrey Engelbrecht Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 56	I never had that sort of sound. I find the VCR gives off a low clicking noise every 10 seconds for the first 15 minutes of operation but after that is dead silent. My lens is relatively quiet during startup.

March 31st, 2005, 02:38 AM	#82
Richard Hunter Trustee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lipa City Batangas, Philippines Posts: 1,110	Nope, so far I haven't noticed such a sound Scott. Richard

April 1st, 2005, 11:10 AM	#83
Ben Bowles New Boot Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 10	Yep, I hear 2 loud clicks right when the camera is turned on. Don't know if it's the image stabilizer or not because it still happens when the image stabilizer is off and the camera is powered up. I just assumed it was normal, hope is not a problem. Ben

April 1st, 2005, 11:16 AM	#84
Christian Asnieres New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 19	No clicks thus far. Christian

April 1st, 2005, 12:40 PM	#85
Travis Andersen Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tuckahoe, NY Posts: 87	Mine did click, then the zoom would stutter violently. Send it back to B&H for a new one. The newer on does click at start up but all is fine.

April 1st, 2005, 12:56 PM	#86
Ed Bicker Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Oakdale, Pa Posts: 51	Hello Folks...I believe this is a normal response for the 20X lens. Upon turning on the lens, there will be an imgae shift adjust which is quite normal. Do not worry about this. I spoke with Canon rep as well and he confirmed this to be the case. My 20X does the same. Nothing to worry about.

April 2nd, 2005, 03:29 AM	#88
Lon Breedlove Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 40	My guess would be that that is the stabalization mechanism inside the camera, and when it starts up it just has to calibrate or something. From everyone I have talked to, the shaking is normal, but I cannot defend the clicking noise. Make sure when you turn that bad boy on, the lens cap should be removed first. Also, make sure that the lens is locked into place. Otherwise, contact your retailer. -Lon

April 12th, 2005, 12:15 PM	#90
Kevin Janisch Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 406	20x Startup Clicks Cause Found??? Maybe my experience this past weekend can shed some light on this "clicking" phenomenon. My XL2 did not have the clicking noises on start up when I first got it. Went shooting this past Sunday and noticed a random out of focus black fuzz moving in the viewfinder. Clean out the view finder and lens filter. 20 minutes later and it was back. So I think there is a bug between my filter and the lens. Upon closer inspection, there was a bug inside of the actual 20x lens!!! How he got in there I don't know, but man he I was pissed to say the least. When I put the lens cap on for a few minutes and then take it off, he would not be visible. My guess is without light coming through the lens, he can see the light coming in from wherever he entered and was trying to exit. Anyhow, I shoot through the evening and the next day, no sign of him. So either he got out or died. But around mid day, when coming out of standby, I hear the 2 clicks and immediately remembered this posting. Coincidence, I don't think so. So maybe he gummed up something which is causing the noise. Operationally everything seems fine, but I will be sending it in to Canon the first chance I get. Kevin