Buying an XL2 asap at DVinfo.net

Nicholas Oliver · December 27th, 2008, 11:13 PM

I'm selling my GL2 for $1300 on Monday and then will use that money plus however much I need (probably $700 or so) to buy a used XL2. I check Craigslist quite often and there are always XL2s added and sold very quickly. I'm hesitant to buy a used XL2, especially of Craigslist. I could buy a used XL2 off Amazon for around $2100 or so, but I don't know if that's safer than buying one off Craigslist.

What I'm trying to ask is, if I happen to find one on Craigslist, what can I do to make sure that the camera I'm buying won't somehow crap out on me within a week, a month, whatever. I'd then have no camera and be out $2000. Is there anything I can do? or am I basically just taking a big risk and there isn't anything I can do to make it less risky?

Ryan Valle · December 27th, 2008, 11:37 PM

The world is quickly going HD and by going with the XL2, you are just tying yourself with technology and standards from yesterday. If I were you, I would suggest looking into an HD camera. If you want to stick with canon, I would go for for the XH A1 or XL H1, depending if you want/need shoulder-mount and/or interchangeable lenses. The XL2 is a great camera, but in my opinion, if you need to buy a camera right now, I would go for something HD, unless of course there's a specific reason on staying with the XL2.

As far as your question, what you're doing is pretty much a risk. In fact, I view buying any used equipment as a risk since often they carry no guarantee or warranty. Once it is in your hands, its your responsibility. This would also apply to purchases made on amazon, ebay, or any other online retailer. Being specific to craigslist, it is suggested that you make deals face to face. Craigslist is just a tool to help you find deals, but its highly advised that you meet the person somewhere to examine the product, pick it up, and make the trade/deal/sale/etc. But like I said, there is no guarantee, unless its signed on contract, that what you buy will work. Sure, you can send off the camera for repairs, but that will also cost you more money.

Your best bet is to just save the money and get something new, refurbished, or something from a reputable dealer such as B&H photo and video.

Nicholas Oliver · December 27th, 2008, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan Valle

The world is quickly going HD and by going with the XL2, you are just tying yourself with technology and standards from yesterday. If I were you, I would suggest looking into an HD camera. If you want to stick with canon, I would go for for the XH A1 or XL H1, depending if you want/need shoulder-mount and/or interchangeable lenses. The XL2 is a great camera, but in my opinion, if you need to buy a camera right now, I would go for something HD, unless of course there's a specific reason on staying with the XL2.

if I could find an HD camera with an interchangeable lens, and able to shoot at 24fps, I'd definitely consider buying one.

Jeff Harper · December 28th, 2008, 12:41 AM

If you cannot afford a new HD camera, the Canon is a super camera and I suspect at the low price you will pay for it you may have no regrets.

I have no issue with buying used, I have bought all four of my previous stable of Sony's used, and all were perfect.

How to know if the camera is good and will last? Just talk to the seller and see if you trust him/her. Find out how the camera was used. If you like what you hear and if you trust the guy/gal, then go for it, you'll be fine unless they are dishonest and you didn't pick that up.

Regarding your requirements for an HD cam: one of the Canons mentioned above has interchangeable lens, I believe and both have 24p.

Otherwise, the Sony HVR-Z7U meets your requirements in all respects.

Sony | HVR-Z7U HDV Camcorder | HVR-Z7U | B&H Photo Video

Nicholas Oliver · December 28th, 2008, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

I have no issue with buying used, I have bought all four of my previous stable of Sony's used, and all were perfect.

Regarding your requirements: one of the Canons mentioned above has interchangeable lens, I believe and both have 24p.

Otherwise, the Sony HVR-Z7U meets your requirements in all respects.

Sony | HVR-Z7U HDV Camcorder | HVR-Z7U | B&H Photo Video

$5,000 though... :\
that would be a mass load of saving up for me. I'm only 19 >.<

Marco Leavitt · December 28th, 2008, 10:06 PM

I think the XL2 is ideal to buy used. There are lots of them out there as people are migrating to HDV, and they are built really well. The tape transport for instance is a lot tougher than many other cameras. It is scary though. I'd try and buy one locally. You really want to check the camera in person and run it through some tests before you hand over the bucks. As far as the format, heck, the standard delivery medium is still DVD and that's not going to change for a while. I'd expect an XL2 to remain useful for at least a couple of years and beyond. One thing though -- the 3x lens is an absolute must if you are going to get this camera. The 20x lens is great, but is telephoto only. Having both lenses is the best of both worlds. To tell you the truth, if I could have only one or the other, I'd go with the 3x. It's more useful.

Nicholas Oliver · December 28th, 2008, 11:12 PM

nice man, thanks for the advice. I agree with the 3x lens. I'm going to find one immediately.

Greg Boston · December 29th, 2008, 12:26 AM

Don't forget to peruse our own classifieds. I have bought really good used gear right here on DVINFO. I also sold my 2 XL2 cameras here a couple years ago. Most folks on here take good care of their gear or are honest enough to state the actual condition of stuff they're selling.

-gb-

Nicholas Oliver · December 29th, 2008, 01:32 PM

Yeah I've been checking the classifieds quite often. Seems this is a pretty trustworthy site, so if I do purchase an XL2 from someone here, hopefully I don't have to worry about being sent a faulty camera.

Mike Quinones · January 1st, 2009, 09:52 AM

Hi Nicholas;
I have an XL2 that I like to sell, I'm near O’Hare If you are for real send me an Email, and we can arrange to meet maybe half way, at a place where we both be comfortable.
My Camera has been use three times in the last two years.
mquinones11@ameritech.net

Kyle Ross · January 6th, 2009, 11:05 PM

HD just means that XL2's are getting cheaper and cheaper. If you're just 19, why bother blowing it all and getting an HD? In fact, the GL2 is still a pretty good camcorder.

If you do get it off Craigslist, make sure you meet in person and test the camcorder out. I'm sure they'd be happy to let you see it and check it over. Don't do any of that mailing away stuff.

December 27th, 2008, 11:13 PM	#1
Nicholas Oliver Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 100	Buying an XL2 asap I'm selling my GL2 for $1300 on Monday and then will use that money plus however much I need (probably $700 or so) to buy a used XL2. I check Craigslist quite often and there are always XL2s added and sold very quickly. I'm hesitant to buy a used XL2, especially of Craigslist. I could buy a used XL2 off Amazon for around $2100 or so, but I don't know if that's safer than buying one off Craigslist. What I'm trying to ask is, if I happen to find one on Craigslist, what can I do to make sure that the camera I'm buying won't somehow crap out on me within a week, a month, whatever. I'd then have no camera and be out $2000. Is there anything I can do? or am I basically just taking a big risk and there isn't anything I can do to make it less risky?

December 27th, 2008, 11:37 PM	#2
Ryan Valle Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: North Hills, CA Posts: 40	Why an XL2? The world is quickly going HD and by going with the XL2, you are just tying yourself with technology and standards from yesterday. If I were you, I would suggest looking into an HD camera. If you want to stick with canon, I would go for for the XH A1 or XL H1, depending if you want/need shoulder-mount and/or interchangeable lenses. The XL2 is a great camera, but in my opinion, if you need to buy a camera right now, I would go for something HD, unless of course there's a specific reason on staying with the XL2. As far as your question, what you're doing is pretty much a risk. In fact, I view buying any used equipment as a risk since often they carry no guarantee or warranty. Once it is in your hands, its your responsibility. This would also apply to purchases made on amazon, ebay, or any other online retailer. Being specific to craigslist, it is suggested that you make deals face to face. Craigslist is just a tool to help you find deals, but its highly advised that you meet the person somewhere to examine the product, pick it up, and make the trade/deal/sale/etc. But like I said, there is no guarantee, unless its signed on contract, that what you buy will work. Sure, you can send off the camera for repairs, but that will also cost you more money. Your best bet is to just save the money and get something new, refurbished, or something from a reputable dealer such as B&H photo and video.

December 28th, 2008, 12:41 AM	#4
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	If you cannot afford a new HD camera, the Canon is a super camera and I suspect at the low price you will pay for it you may have no regrets. I have no issue with buying used, I have bought all four of my previous stable of Sony's used, and all were perfect. How to know if the camera is good and will last? Just talk to the seller and see if you trust him/her. Find out how the camera was used. If you like what you hear and if you trust the guy/gal, then go for it, you'll be fine unless they are dishonest and you didn't pick that up. Regarding your requirements for an HD cam: one of the Canons mentioned above has interchangeable lens, I believe and both have 24p. Otherwise, the Sony HVR-Z7U meets your requirements in all respects. Sony \| HVR-Z7U HDV Camcorder \| HVR-Z7U \| B&H Photo Video

December 28th, 2008, 10:06 PM	#6
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	I think the XL2 is ideal to buy used. There are lots of them out there as people are migrating to HDV, and they are built really well. The tape transport for instance is a lot tougher than many other cameras. It is scary though. I'd try and buy one locally. You really want to check the camera in person and run it through some tests before you hand over the bucks. As far as the format, heck, the standard delivery medium is still DVD and that's not going to change for a while. I'd expect an XL2 to remain useful for at least a couple of years and beyond. One thing though -- the 3x lens is an absolute must if you are going to get this camera. The 20x lens is great, but is telephoto only. Having both lenses is the best of both worlds. To tell you the truth, if I could have only one or the other, I'd go with the 3x. It's more useful.

December 28th, 2008, 11:12 PM	#7
Nicholas Oliver Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 100	nice man, thanks for the advice. I agree with the 3x lens. I'm going to find one immediately.

December 29th, 2008, 12:26 AM	#8
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	Don't forget to peruse our own classifieds. I have bought really good used gear right here on DVINFO. I also sold my 2 XL2 cameras here a couple years ago. Most folks on here take good care of their gear or are honest enough to state the actual condition of stuff they're selling. -gb-

December 29th, 2008, 01:32 PM	#9
Nicholas Oliver Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 100	Yeah I've been checking the classifieds quite often. Seems this is a pretty trustworthy site, so if I do purchase an XL2 from someone here, hopefully I don't have to worry about being sent a faulty camera.

January 1st, 2009, 09:52 AM	#10
Mike Quinones Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Melreso Park IL. Posts: 89	Hi Nicholas; I have an XL2 that I like to sell, I'm near O’Hare If you are for real send me an Email, and we can arrange to meet maybe half way, at a place where we both be comfortable. My Camera has been use three times in the last two years. mquinones11@ameritech.net

January 6th, 2009, 11:05 PM	#11
Kyle Ross Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Surrey, British Columbia Posts: 48	HD just means that XL2's are getting cheaper and cheaper. If you're just 19, why bother blowing it all and getting an HD? In fact, the GL2 is still a pretty good camcorder. If you do get it off Craigslist, make sure you meet in person and test the camcorder out. I'm sure they'd be happy to let you see it and check it over. Don't do any of that mailing away stuff.