Achieving propper white at DVinfo.net

David Odell · June 3rd, 2008, 02:46 AM

Hi,

I have been test filming some time with the XL2 and found that I like the image with a lower saturated look.
But one thing that bothers me, is that after every white balance I still got somewhat to far from the actual white,
even though I moved from the oversaturated look.

Have any of you shot in conditions that white needed to be absolutely white? And what were your settings then?
White room or anything alike, an example here: http://www.macgregor.autoecstasy.com...glish.h264.mov

As for the reds, I use the documentary present +2, but does it reflect the white that much that I need to
set the presents to 0 on most settings? Or is it for the post work to achieve?

Thanks for any input!
David

Edit:The reason for this inquary is that I mostly film just with the standard viewfinder, and often don't get the correct colour info.

Jack Barker · June 4th, 2008, 08:49 AM

If you white balance to an object that you consider your "perfect white," there is no reason I can think of that should cause that to change during the filming of that shot, so long as you don't change the settings, or the lighting after white balancing. Most people use a white balance card, or a sheet of white paper to balance, but you could zoom in on the snow, or a white jacket, if that is what you consider a perfect white for your shot.

Let me emphasize that you cannot white balance, then change the settings, and expect to have the same white balance that you started with.

Steven Dunn · June 5th, 2008, 05:07 PM

That was the best short I have seen in a while.

Shaun Roemich · June 5th, 2008, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Barker

Most people use a white balance card, or a sheet of white paper to balance, but you could zoom in on the snow, or a white jacket, if that is what you consider a perfect white for your shot.

Keep in mind snow isn't actually white, but as you said "the perfect white for your shot".

You can't use snow to get a "clinical" or perfect white.

Elijah Lynn · June 11th, 2008, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Dunn

That was the best short I have seen in a while.

I second that!! Absolutely AMAZING short!! Everyone should watch that. I have ADD with webclips and you caught from the very beginning. I just could not stop watching it.

Job well done if you can do that!! I rarely watch web clips all the way through, almost never.

Beautiful Short!! I am gonna look more into the stuff you guys do!

Oliver Darden · June 20th, 2008, 11:57 AM

Hey David, do you know if that short was shot on an XL2, and do you know the film makers or was that just a random video you found?

Elijah Lynn · June 20th, 2008, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver Darden

Hey David, do you know if that short was shot on an XL2, and do you know the film makers or was that just a random video you found?

I found this video --> http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...nelID=65283315

Appears to be the MacGregor that would produce the above short!

Excellent work mate!

(for the record - there are 59 plays of the myspace vid as of right now)

Edit - That is not the right guy. I did find these pages though.

http://ticklebooth.com/2007/08/similo/
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1r...lackmilk-films
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=86211

Oliver Darden · June 20th, 2008, 08:21 PM

thanks for the links Elijah. Here is what I found:

Posted by "Jack Daniel Stanley" on dvxuser.com:
"it was 100% my HVX mostly with Mac's Guerilla35 (now cinemek- a nice static adaptor) and a couple of shots with my letus. We were going to use my letus but there was dust in it. I took it apart to try and fix it but could not get it back together properly in time to use it.

the briefcae shot, which I got after Mac had returned to spain, and Amy eating and cutting her finger were Letus/HVX the rest were Cinemek35/HVX"

I wonder if it was an hvx200 or hvx500...

June 3rd, 2008, 02:46 AM	#1
David Odell Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 41	Achieving propper white Hi, I have been test filming some time with the XL2 and found that I like the image with a lower saturated look. But one thing that bothers me, is that after every white balance I still got somewhat to far from the actual white, even though I moved from the oversaturated look. Have any of you shot in conditions that white needed to be absolutely white? And what were your settings then? White room or anything alike, an example here: http://www.macgregor.autoecstasy.com...glish.h264.mov As for the reds, I use the documentary present +2, but does it reflect the white that much that I need to set the presents to 0 on most settings? Or is it for the post work to achieve? Thanks for any input! David Edit:The reason for this inquary is that I mostly film just with the standard viewfinder, and often don't get the correct colour info. Last edited by David Odell; June 3rd, 2008 at 02:48 PM.

June 4th, 2008, 08:49 AM	#2
Jack Barker Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 342	If you white balance to an object that you consider your "perfect white," there is no reason I can think of that should cause that to change during the filming of that shot, so long as you don't change the settings, or the lighting *after* white balancing. Most people use a white balance card, or a sheet of white paper to balance, but you could zoom in on the snow, or a white jacket, if that is what you consider a perfect white for your shot. Let me emphasize that you cannot white balance, then change the settings, and expect to have the same white balance that you started with.

June 5th, 2008, 05:07 PM	#3
Steven Dunn New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 9	That was the best short I have seen in a while.

June 20th, 2008, 11:57 AM	#6
Oliver Darden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 522	Hey David, do you know if that short was shot on an XL2, and do you know the film makers or was that just a random video you found?

June 20th, 2008, 08:21 PM	#8
Oliver Darden Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 522	thanks for the links Elijah. Here is what I found: Posted by "Jack Daniel Stanley" on dvxuser.com: "it was 100% my HVX mostly with Mac's Guerilla35 (now cinemek- a nice static adaptor) and a couple of shots with my letus. We were going to use my letus but there was dust in it. I took it apart to try and fix it but could not get it back together properly in time to use it. the briefcae shot, which I got after Mac had returned to spain, and Amy eating and cutting her finger were Letus/HVX the rest were Cinemek35/HVX" I wonder if it was an hvx200 or hvx500...