Matte Box for XH-A1 at DVinfo.net

Michael Azzarello · July 22nd, 2007, 10:07 AM

I've been trying to find a Matte Box for use on the XHA1.

Anyone have any ideas?

I saw Cokin is coming out with one, but was wondering if anyone had any other ideas.

Thanks.

Syrovatsky Dmitry · July 22nd, 2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Azzarello

I've been trying to find a Matte Box for use on the XHA1.

Anyone have any ideas?

I saw Cokin is coming out with one, but was wondering if anyone had any other ideas.

Thanks.

Try this
http://www.indiesnap.com/DVXuser/

Michael Azzarello · July 22nd, 2007, 10:29 AM

I was actually looking at that one. I saw that it takes 4X4 filters. If your using a ND Grad, how can you adjust it for the scene?

Do you know if they take 4X5 filters?

I emailed them these questions but haven't received a response.

Thanks.
Mike A.

David W. Jones · July 22nd, 2007, 11:13 AM

There are probably at least half a dozen matte Boxes that will work with the XH-A1.
I am using an inexpensive Cavision 4 x 4 bellows unit with mine.

Bryce Olejniczak · July 22nd, 2007, 01:19 PM

Where is the best place to order matte boxes from?

Michael Azzarello · July 22nd, 2007, 01:25 PM

I've checked Cavision 4 x 4 out and it looks good. Although, I think im leaning towards the one from IndieSnap.

The Redrock microMattebox looks interesting but it seems like they've been developing it forever with no real release date.

Tough decision.

Mike A.

Jack Walker · July 22nd, 2007, 01:32 PM

Here is one for $189 with a french flag and two filter holders. It doesn't look like the filters will rotate:

http://www.imagewest.tv/index.asp?Pa...PROD&ProdID=27

I don't know anything about this, but it looks basic and looks like it will work. To me it looks better than the Indie Snap. I don't know if the Indie Snap will allow a rotating filter.

Of course, if you are going this inexpensive, a round polarizer would would word fine and would be cheaper than a 4x4 (and easier to carry around), so you would need a rotating stage in the matte box probably.

Bill Pryor · July 22nd, 2007, 02:21 PM

It appears the Indiesnap doesn't allow the French flag to tilt up or down.
Has anybody used this Universal? It's obviously not the greatest in the world, but for that price it can't be beat.

Paul Mailath · July 23rd, 2007, 12:20 AM

What about this ? -

http://www.cinetactics.com/Page.bok?template=c_mb125h

Trevor Bray · July 23rd, 2007, 07:57 AM

I mailed Gerhard at Geardear and he now has a lens mount specially for the A1.
This is the box I'll be getting.

http://geardear.com/pictures.html

Trev

Floris van Eck · July 23rd, 2007, 12:10 PM

Trevor, that one looks very nice and decent.

Bill Pryor · July 23rd, 2007, 09:50 PM

Trevor, do you know how much it weighs, with French flag? And, do you know if the 4X4 works with the XH A1's lens full wide or do you need the 4.5X6?

Trevor Bray · July 24th, 2007, 06:24 AM

I have mailed Gerhard and will let you know as soon as he replies.

Trev

Trevor Bray · July 24th, 2007, 11:07 PM

Hi everyone.
I have received mail from Gerhard as follows.
Hi Trevor,

thank you for your interest in our Geardear equipment.

The mattebox weights around 400gr, with french flag 200gr more. I can not recommed the use of any mattebox with a french flag without rods support concerning the weight on the internal lens mount.
One 4x4" filters alone weights 110gr.! And think of somebody bumping into the french flag or heavy movement of the camera - there is much more force than the weight of the mattebox alone.

Here you see the lensmount with the cutout for the sensor. It is a modified "lensmount80" which fits onto a step-up ring of 72-77mm. The step-up ring you need to buy extra, for example from here http://www.camerafilters.com/detail.aspx?id=776

For the Canon A1 with the AIF sensor we have developed a special 4x4" vertical filterstage. The rotating stage "3sixty" runs exactly through the sensor, so it is not recommeded to use with the sensor.

You can have a "starter" pack with a cutout for the sensor.

The starter-package has no filtertray, so nothing runs through your sensor - except of a corner of the filter sometimes. It is very lightweight and I would use it without the french flag, only with the masks

The size 4x4" or 4x5.65" is depending on how many filterstages you want to use. For the first two stages 4x4" is enough to go full wide.

Hope to hear from you
best wishes from Germany

Gerhard

GEARDEAR.COM
mattebox solution
Gerhard Hirsch
www.geardear.com

Bill Pryor · September 28th, 2007, 01:58 PM

Hey, Trevor, did you ever get your mattebox?

July 22nd, 2007, 10:07 AM	#1
Michael Azzarello New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pasadena Posts: 16	Matte Box for XH-A1 I've been trying to find a Matte Box for use on the XHA1. Anyone have any ideas? I saw Cokin is coming out with one, but was wondering if anyone had any other ideas. Thanks.

July 22nd, 2007, 10:29 AM	#3
Michael Azzarello New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pasadena Posts: 16	Matte Box for Canon XH-A1 I was actually looking at that one. I saw that it takes 4X4 filters. If your using a ND Grad, how can you adjust it for the scene? Do you know if they take 4X5 filters? I emailed them these questions but haven't received a response. Thanks. Mike A.

July 23rd, 2007, 12:20 AM	#9
Paul Mailath Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Coast - NSW, Australia Posts: 1,610	What about this ? - http://www.cinetactics.com/Page.bok?template=c_mb125h __________________ Cheers - Paul M. www.perbenyik.com

July 23rd, 2007, 07:57 AM	#10
Trevor Bray New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Guildford UK Posts: 18	Matte box for A1 I mailed Gerhard at Geardear and he now has a lens mount specially for the A1. This is the box I'll be getting. http://geardear.com/pictures.html Trev

July 24th, 2007, 11:07 PM	#14
Trevor Bray New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Guildford UK Posts: 18	Geardear Matte Box Hi everyone. I have received mail from Gerhard as follows. Hi Trevor, thank you for your interest in our Geardear equipment. The mattebox weights around 400gr, with french flag 200gr more. I can not recommed the use of any mattebox with a french flag without rods support concerning the weight on the internal lens mount. One 4x4" filters alone weights 110gr.! And think of somebody bumping into the french flag or heavy movement of the camera - there is much more force than the weight of the mattebox alone. Here you see the lensmount with the cutout for the sensor. It is a modified "lensmount80" which fits onto a step-up ring of 72-77mm. The step-up ring you need to buy extra, for example from here http://www.camerafilters.com/detail.aspx?id=776 For the Canon A1 with the AIF sensor we have developed a special 4x4" vertical filterstage. The rotating stage "3sixty" runs exactly through the sensor, so it is not recommeded to use with the sensor. You can have a "starter" pack with a cutout for the sensor. The starter-package has no filtertray, so nothing runs through your sensor - except of a corner of the filter sometimes. It is very lightweight and I would use it without the french flag, only with the masks The size 4x4" or 4x5.65" is depending on how many filterstages you want to use. For the first two stages 4x4" is enough to go full wide. Hope to hear from you best wishes from Germany Gerhard GEARDEAR.COM mattebox solution Gerhard Hirsch www.geardear.com Attached Thumbnails

July 22nd, 2007, 11:13 AM	#4
David W. Jones Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Little Rock Posts: 1,383	There are probably at least half a dozen matte Boxes that will work with the XH-A1. I am using an inexpensive Cavision 4 x 4 bellows unit with mine.

July 22nd, 2007, 01:19 PM	#5
Bryce Olejniczak Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Marquette, MI Posts: 65	Where is the best place to order matte boxes from?

July 22nd, 2007, 01:25 PM	#6
Michael Azzarello New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pasadena Posts: 16	I've checked Cavision 4 x 4 out and it looks good. Although, I think im leaning towards the one from IndieSnap. The Redrock microMattebox looks interesting but it seems like they've been developing it forever with no real release date. Tough decision. Mike A.

July 22nd, 2007, 01:32 PM	#7
Jack Walker Trustee Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burbank Posts: 1,811	Here is one for $189 with a french flag and two filter holders. It doesn't look like the filters will rotate: http://www.imagewest.tv/index.asp?Pa...PROD&ProdID=27 I don't know anything about this, but it looks basic and looks like it will work. To me it looks better than the Indie Snap. I don't know if the Indie Snap will allow a rotating filter. Of course, if you are going this inexpensive, a round polarizer would would word fine and would be cheaper than a 4x4 (and easier to carry around), so you would need a rotating stage in the matte box probably.

July 22nd, 2007, 02:21 PM	#8
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	It appears the Indiesnap doesn't allow the French flag to tilt up or down. Has anybody used this Universal? It's obviously not the greatest in the world, but for that price it can't be beat.

July 23rd, 2007, 12:10 PM	#11
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	Trevor, that one looks very nice and decent.

July 23rd, 2007, 09:50 PM	#12
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Trevor, do you know how much it weighs, with French flag? And, do you know if the 4X4 works with the XH A1's lens full wide or do you need the 4.5X6?

July 24th, 2007, 06:24 AM	#13
Trevor Bray New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Guildford UK Posts: 18	I have mailed Gerhard and will let you know as soon as he replies. Trev

September 28th, 2007, 01:58 PM	#15
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Hey, Trevor, did you ever get your mattebox?