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Urban Skargren · July 2nd, 2007, 09:34 AM

Hi guys,
just wondering if you black-record your tapes before shooting.

Don Palomaki · July 2nd, 2007, 09:49 AM

Never - about all it would add is head wear, at least for my shooting..

Eric Weiss · July 2nd, 2007, 10:28 AM

you do not need to black tapes that are positioned for NLE.
only much older analog tape might have required that.

Urban Skargren · July 2nd, 2007, 11:42 AM

Well, DV timecode breaks caused me tape log troubles. So I started blackening all tapes. But with HDV I am somehow more concerned about tape and head handling. :)

Bill Pryor · July 2nd, 2007, 06:07 PM

You shouldn't have timecode breaks if you're careful in shooting. All you have to do is shoot a few seconds of head and tail on every shot, which is standard procedure anyway. If you watch a take or take the tape out, make sure when you recue it's in the rundown area on the last take. Striping tapes is something we did before nonlinear editing because you can't do insert editing without it. But to do it for shooting, as mentioned above, puts unnecessary wear on the heads as well as the tape.

Kevin Amundson · July 2nd, 2007, 06:21 PM

If I'm going to replay footage or take the tape out I just record a couple seconds of BARS and then I just make sure i'm recording over the BARS when I do my next take.

The reason I do BARS instead of extra footage is because I have taped over a perfect take when I taped over my extra footage. :)

July 2nd, 2007, 09:34 AM	#1
Urban Skargren Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Medellin, Colombia Posts: 225	Black-record tapes Hi guys, just wondering if you black-record your tapes before shooting.

July 2nd, 2007, 09:49 AM	#2
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Never - about all it would add is head wear, at least for my shooting.. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

July 2nd, 2007, 11:42 AM	#4
Urban Skargren Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Medellin, Colombia Posts: 225	Well, DV timecode breaks caused me tape log troubles. So I started blackening all tapes. But with HDV I am somehow more concerned about tape and head handling. :) Last edited by Urban Skargren; July 2nd, 2007 at 12:15 PM.

July 2nd, 2007, 06:21 PM	#6
Kevin Amundson Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Prague, MN Posts: 112	If I'm going to replay footage or take the tape out I just record a couple seconds of BARS and then I just make sure i'm recording over the BARS when I do my next take. The reason I do BARS instead of extra footage is because I have taped over a perfect take when I taped over my extra footage. :) __________________ Kevin \| www.kraentertainment.com A picture is worth 1,000 words \| A 2 hour film at 24fps is worth 172,800,000 words

July 2nd, 2007, 10:28 AM	#3
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	you do not need to black tapes that are positioned for NLE. only much older analog tape might have required that.

July 2nd, 2007, 06:07 PM	#5
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	You shouldn't have timecode breaks if you're careful in shooting. All you have to do is shoot a few seconds of head and tail on every shot, which is standard procedure anyway. If you watch a take or take the tape out, make sure when you recue it's in the rundown area on the last take. Striping tapes is something we did before nonlinear editing because you can't do insert editing without it. But to do it for shooting, as mentioned above, puts unnecessary wear on the heads as well as the tape.