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Old May 31st, 2007, 12:20 PM   #1
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FX1, A1 and HVX Playing together

FX1, A1 and HVX Playing together.

Not to compare what is better, but to show how they can be used together.

Not the best compression, but you can get the idea.

In the you tube player on the extreme bottom right click the left button to play at normal size.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8On737AFg

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Old May 31st, 2007, 01:10 PM   #2
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Douglas, the compression is so heavy that I might as well be watching video 8 footage....really hard to see what's going on.

Sorry :(
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Old May 31st, 2007, 01:38 PM   #3
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I think Steven is just looking at it from too technical a standpoint. From a general audience perspective the video seems to work very well together, its all in the use of the tools. Maybe its because I am of the 'younger generation' and youtube doesn`t bother me, sometimes video is video. The right tools in the right hands and you`d never be the wiser.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 01:52 PM   #4
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I agree with Steven. Using Youtube for ANY quality comparison is nothing short of useless.

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Old May 31st, 2007, 02:20 PM   #5
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Douglas, the compression is so heavy that I might as well be watching video 8 footage....really hard to see what's going on.

Sorry :(
I agree with you on Youtube, but I can't just pay my web guy every time I have something to show.

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I think Steven is just looking at it from too technical a standpoint. From a general audience perspective the video seems to work very well together, its all in the use of the tools. Maybe its because I am of the 'younger generation' and youtube doesn`t bother me, sometimes video is video. The right tools in the right hands and you`d never be the wiser.
Like I said before it is not a comparison between cameras. It is to show that they work good together and that is easy to see even on youtube.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 02:21 PM   #6
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I agree with Steven. Using Youtube for ANY quality comparison is nothing short of useless.

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Old May 31st, 2007, 02:26 PM   #7
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I mean you no disrespect at all Douglas but my problem is that you could have shot these scenes with a Super8 camera, a PD150 and a Varicam and they would still all look really badly compressed and there would be no real way of seeing how they all work together.

Do you understand what I'm getting at? I'm not looking at it from a technical standpoint so much. I just want to see something a little clearer.

I also understand the restrictions of uploading large files but there are a few free services out there.
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I mean you no disrespect at all Douglas but my problem is that you could have shot these scenes with a Super8 camera, a PD150 and a Varicam and they would still all look really badly compressed and there would be no real way of seeing how they all work together.

Do you understand what I'm getting at? I'm not looking at it from a technical standpoint so much. I just want to see something a little clearer.

I also understand the restrictions of uploading large files but there are a few free services out there.
I don't take anything said here as personal.

Send me a link to a free site that can handle large h264 files and I'll upload it.
I use to do it through my own page but I had it upgraded to Flash or something and now I don't know how to download from it. I have 3 GBs available but no time to figure out how.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 03:36 PM   #9
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Douglas, Mediafire.com works well. 100 meg max per file & you don't have to register, but it's free regardless & registering gives you management of files uploaded or downloaded.

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Old May 31st, 2007, 04:05 PM   #10
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Thanks Bill.

I'll post some footage as soon as I encode some h264 files. They take forever to encode.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 06:15 PM   #11
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Yep you got to it before me. Mediafire is the best route.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 07:53 PM   #12
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Try this link 25.5 MBs http://www.mediafire.com/?fzyyz0exhzy
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Shots look really nice... Looks like a classy place.... What kind of jib was that you were using?

Might try rendering out to a good old SD MPEG-2... Should yield some better results for viewing pleasure and ease compression issues...
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Shots look really nice... Looks like a classy place.... What kind of jib was that you were using?

Might try rendering out to a good old SD MPEG-2... Should yield some better results for viewing pleasure and ease compression issues...
Thanks Doug,

I use a use a ProMax Cobra Crane II with extention,

I thought about doing an MPEG-II but it takes time to convert HD format to SD.
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Old June 1st, 2007, 09:16 AM   #15
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still looks like they work well together. Even with better vs. youtube compression. Again, had you not mentioned the 3 cameras I don`t think people would have known. Good work.
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