Commercial shot with A1 at DVinfo.net

Tim Follin · May 30th, 2007, 04:41 PM

Hi,

Just finished an ad here in the UK shot on my new Canon A1 (no firestore or 35mm adaptor yet, though SGpro ordered!). Had to use freeware HDV split and bought TMPEG to convert into QT files, then edited in SD in Premiere then compiled and composited it all at 720p in After Effects from the SD edit. Not ideal, but it worked!

http://www.501tv.com/Debt_Connect_720p_h264.mov

Have to say I'm impressed with the camera so far; I've used the Z1 a couple of times and this is a major improvement both in raw image quality (esp. resolution) and HDV compression artifacts.

Don Jones · May 30th, 2007, 07:58 PM

Tim, very nice.

Don

Danny Aldaca · May 30th, 2007, 08:21 PM

WOW!! That was great thanks for sharing and I just dowloaded the encoder trial version and it is great and resonable price.

Oleg Kalyan · May 30th, 2007, 08:47 PM

Really enjoyed it! Great camera angles!
I anything, maybe it has too much detail in some shots overall. I guess it's a great thing.

Mike Gorski · May 30th, 2007, 09:25 PM

Awesome! Really making the A1 shine.

Alain Mayo · May 30th, 2007, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Follin

Hi,

Just finished an ad here in the UK shot on my new Canon A1 (no firestore or 35mm adaptor yet, though SGpro ordered!). Had to use freeware HDV split and bought TMPEG to convert into QT files, then edited in SD in Premiere then compiled and composited it all at 720p in After Effects from the SD edit. Not ideal, but it worked!

http://www.501tv.com/Debt_Connect_720p_h264.mov

Have to say I'm impressed with the camera so far; I've used the Z1 a couple of times and this is a major improvement both in raw image quality (esp. resolution) and HDV compression artifacts.

Wow Great commercial!!
What settings or preset did you use in cam?

Chan Ee Jien · May 30th, 2007, 10:53 PM

Link doesn't work :(

Bill Busby · May 31st, 2007, 12:03 AM

The file was probably removed for bandwidth reasons.

Bill

Tim Follin · May 31st, 2007, 02:23 AM

Hi!

Thanks for all your comments, really appreciated!!

Chan, the link's working again - I upgraded my account!

Oleg - I agree, especially the wide shot of the model under the tree, there's way too much detail. This is exactly the sort of situation you need a 35mm adaptor for, although we were pressed for time and struggling with the tiny location we had to shoot in. Also the whole sequence is sharpened too much for my liking, but clients are usually slow to be able to see any difference between HD and SD on a laptop (no HD screens were available at the screening), so you have to make it stand out.

Alain, I didn't have as long as I wanted to test the different settings, but here's what I ended up using (the rest are 0):

GAM N / KNE L / BLK M / PED 0 / SET -9 / SHP 3 / HDF M / NR2 L / CMX 2 / CGN 40 / GRM -15

Personally I can't see any use for the cine gamma setting, it's almost the exact reverse of the gamma curve I normally apply to create a more filmic look - I usually put a slight boost in the middle / lower half of the luma curve, which creates a more dramatic fall-off into the shadows and brightens the image, but keeps the highlights about the same, and I usually underexpose by a stop to cater for the grade. The gamma was the only thing I was disappointed by with the camera.

Michel Tournier · May 31st, 2007, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Follin

the link's working again - I upgraded my account!

Hey Tim, could you check your link / account again, i don't think it's working ...

Thanks, Mike

Steven Dempsey · May 31st, 2007, 07:08 AM

Not working for me either.

Chan Ee Jien · May 31st, 2007, 08:18 AM

Me either :(

Doug Davis · May 31st, 2007, 10:06 AM

Lol... His homepage says:

This account has exceeded it's bandwidth quota and has been temporarily disabled.

Ooooppppssss.... : )

Tim Follin · May 31st, 2007, 10:39 AM

Hi,

The link's working again now - until my host decides to suspend my account again, despite it being a 100mb account with only 70mb uploaded...

Jeremy Naus · June 1st, 2007, 04:22 AM

wow, I'm impressed with the sfx, nice how the 'ribbon' shines through the tree, could you give any hints on how you did it?

May 30th, 2007, 04:41 PM	#1
Tim Follin New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MANCHESTER, UK Posts: 15	Commercial shot with A1 Hi, Just finished an ad here in the UK shot on my new Canon A1 (no firestore or 35mm adaptor yet, though SGpro ordered!). Had to use freeware HDV split and bought TMPEG to convert into QT files, then edited in SD in Premiere then compiled and composited it all at 720p in After Effects from the SD edit. Not ideal, but it worked! http://www.501tv.com/Debt_Connect_720p_h264.mov Have to say I'm impressed with the camera so far; I've used the Z1 a couple of times and this is a major improvement both in raw image quality (esp. resolution) and HDV compression artifacts.

May 31st, 2007, 02:23 AM	#9
Tim Follin New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MANCHESTER, UK Posts: 15	Hi! Thanks for all your comments, really appreciated!! Chan, the link's working again - I upgraded my account! Oleg - I agree, especially the wide shot of the model under the tree, there's way too much detail. This is exactly the sort of situation you need a 35mm adaptor for, although we were pressed for time and struggling with the tiny location we had to shoot in. Also the whole sequence is sharpened too much for my liking, but clients are usually slow to be able to see any difference between HD and SD on a laptop (no HD screens were available at the screening), so you have to make it stand out. Alain, I didn't have as long as I wanted to test the different settings, but here's what I ended up using (the rest are 0): GAM N / KNE L / BLK M / PED 0 / SET -9 / SHP 3 / HDF M / NR2 L / CMX 2 / CGN 40 / GRM -15 Personally I can't see any use for the cine gamma setting, it's almost the exact reverse of the gamma curve I normally apply to create a more filmic look - I usually put a slight boost in the middle / lower half of the luma curve, which creates a more dramatic fall-off into the shadows and brightens the image, but keeps the highlights about the same, and I usually underexpose by a stop to cater for the grade. The gamma was the only thing I was disappointed by with the camera. Last edited by Tim Follin; May 31st, 2007 at 06:05 AM.

May 31st, 2007, 07:08 AM	#11
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	Not working for me either. __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

May 31st, 2007, 10:39 AM	#14
Tim Follin New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MANCHESTER, UK Posts: 15	Hi, The link's working again now - until my host decides to suspend my account again, despite it being a 100mb account with only 70mb uploaded... Last edited by Tim Follin; June 1st, 2007 at 02:40 AM.

May 30th, 2007, 07:58 PM	#2
Don Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: knoxville tn Posts: 41	Tim, very nice. Don

May 30th, 2007, 08:21 PM	#3
Danny Aldaca New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 9	WOW!! That was great thanks for sharing and I just dowloaded the encoder trial version and it is great and resonable price.

May 30th, 2007, 08:47 PM	#4
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	Really enjoyed it! Great camera angles! I anything, maybe it has too much detail in some shots overall. I guess it's a great thing.

May 30th, 2007, 09:25 PM	#5
Mike Gorski Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hermosa Beach, CA Posts: 163	Awesome! Really making the A1 shine.

May 30th, 2007, 10:53 PM	#7
Chan Ee Jien Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 67	Link doesn't work :(

May 31st, 2007, 12:03 AM	#8
Bill Busby Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 959	The file was probably removed for bandwidth reasons. Bill

May 31st, 2007, 08:18 AM	#12
Chan Ee Jien Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 67	Me either :(

May 31st, 2007, 10:06 AM	#13
Doug Davis Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Birmingham Alabama Posts: 259	Lol... His homepage says: This account has exceeded it's bandwidth quota and has been temporarily disabled. Ooooppppssss.... : )

June 1st, 2007, 04:22 AM	#15
Jeremy Naus Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Antwerpen, Belgium Posts: 60	wow, I'm impressed with the sfx, nice how the 'ribbon' shines through the tree, could you give any hints on how you did it?