Sunrise (with new preset) at DVinfo.net

Steven Dempsey · March 17th, 2007, 04:07 PM

I created a new preset that gives a much more intense response to colors. It's called "VIVIDRGB" and you can find it in the presets thread.

Of course, being morning and all, it's hard to get a sense of daylight colors because there is a unique hue at sunrise.

This is completely untouched raw footage out of the camera. The only thing I did was apply a scope matte to this edited sequence. No levels, no cc.

There is a compression error somewhere in the file. There is some kind of conflict on my computer that never allows me to get glitch free WMVs...I haven't figured it out. If it stops playing for you, just move a couple of frames forward. It played for me.

There is something totally organic about these shots. They have a very film-like texture that I love. There is some noise but I made choices to underexpose to reveal the colors of the sunrise.

Anyway, enjoy:

http://www.pinelakefilms.com/XHA1/sunrise.wmv

Right click and save as

Chris Barcellos · March 17th, 2007, 10:51 PM

Beautiful shooting as usual.

Did have some issues with title changes leaving "blocks" on screen, and one transition looked like water ripple. Not sure if that was intended. Did not have it stop however.

In post are you adding or using an unsharp mask ?

Glenn Thomas · March 18th, 2007, 02:49 AM

Brilliant! I love that end shot of the sun.

Bill Busby · March 18th, 2007, 04:18 AM

Excellent stuff as always Steven.

Bill

Steven Dempsey · March 18th, 2007, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barcellos

Beautiful shooting as usual.

Did have some issues with title changes leaving "blocks" on screen, and one transition looked like water ripple. Not sure if that was intended. Did not have it stop however.

In post are you adding or using an unsharp mask ?

Thanks everyone. Chris, the blocks are compression artifacts from the WMV file. Sometimes they show up sometimes they don't. I can't explain it but it certainly isn't meant to be in the edit.

I have not used a single effect or any color correction on this footage, including sharpening, it's raw right out of the camera

Tony Tremble · March 18th, 2007, 12:31 PM

Are you enjoying the wide angle??? Looks like it to me...

:)

TT

Jeff Nelson · March 18th, 2007, 05:41 PM

Beautiful, as always, Steven. Will try out that new setting, thanks.

Geir Inge · March 18th, 2007, 06:59 PM

Thanks for sharing.
Beautiful sunrise Steven, and I liked the music too.
What kind of filter do you use, filming the sun?
Whats the big difference between the XLH1 and XHA1?

Eric Weiss · March 18th, 2007, 10:36 PM

wow that is really nice.
your server is blazing fast too.

Jack Jenkins · March 19th, 2007, 01:59 AM

nice footage.

...that last shot scares me because I had always heard about shooting directly into the sun for a prolonged time caused burned out ccds and/or created dead pixels? Is this no longer the case?

Eric Weiss · March 19th, 2007, 09:06 AM

i've shot hours directly into sunrises and sunsets. i have heard that as well, but my cams are in perfect condition. however, i wouldn't suggest zooming all the way in at high noon.

Steven Dempsey · March 19th, 2007, 09:37 AM

It's all a question of being able to take the light intensity level to something reasonable. What I do is apply the in-camera 1/32 ND filter and then increase the shutter speed to something ridiculous like 1/15000. The integrity of the colors at that level are fragile and don't necessarily represent what is being seen but the effect is beautiful. Obviously, I also close down the iris as much as I can.

When all that is in place, the chances or damaging the CCD is probably pretty slim. I'm not shooting for more than about 20-30 seconds at a time. I've done this extensively with my DVX100 over the years also with no problems.

By the way, I zoomed in completely to get that last shot. I didn't use a teleconverter, just the regular lens.

Dino Leone · March 19th, 2007, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Dempsey

This is completely untouched raw footage out of the camera. The only thing I did was apply a scope matte to this edited sequence. No levels, no cc.

Apologies for the stupid question (I'm a newbie), but what's a "scope matte"?

Wonderful footage! Amazing!!

Dino

Steven Dempsey · March 19th, 2007, 10:32 AM

Dino,

"Scope" is just short for "Cinemascope" which is an aspect ratio used in some 35mm films (otherwise known as 2.35:1). I just like the look of it. For me, it gives the frame a much more filmic and epic look.

Basically what I do is apply a mask on the top and bottom of the frame of 12.5% each. I am losing 25% of the frame by doing this but I am shooting and framing with this in mind always so it's not really a loss to me.

Eric Weiss · March 19th, 2007, 10:47 AM

Indeed. Also, depending on the angle that you are shooting can dramatically change the color spectrum of the sunrise. The slightest tilt up or down can produce brilliant colors. For even more intese effect, slap on a color grad..like red, purple, tobacco.

March 17th, 2007, 04:07 PM	#1
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	Sunrise (with new preset) I created a new preset that gives a much more intense response to colors. It's called "VIVIDRGB" and you can find it in the presets thread. Of course, being morning and all, it's hard to get a sense of daylight colors because there is a unique hue at sunrise. This is completely untouched raw footage out of the camera. The only thing I did was apply a scope matte to this edited sequence. No levels, no cc. There is a compression error somewhere in the file. There is some kind of conflict on my computer that never allows me to get glitch free WMVs...I haven't figured it out. If it stops playing for you, just move a couple of frames forward. It played for me. There is something totally organic about these shots. They have a very film-like texture that I love. There is some noise but I made choices to underexpose to reveal the colors of the sunrise. Anyway, enjoy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/XHA1/sunrise.wmv Right click and save as __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

March 17th, 2007, 10:51 PM	#2
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Beautiful shooting as usual. Did have some issues with title changes leaving "blocks" on screen, and one transition looked like water ripple. Not sure if that was intended. Did not have it stop however. In post are you adding or using an unsharp mask ? __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

March 18th, 2007, 04:18 AM	#4
Bill Busby Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 959	Excellent stuff as always Steven. Bill Last edited by Bill Busby; March 18th, 2007 at 04:18 AM. Reason: brain malfunction

March 18th, 2007, 06:59 PM	#8
Geir Inge Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Larsnes, Norway Posts: 1,342	Thanks for sharing. Beautiful sunrise Steven, and I liked the music too. What kind of filter do you use, filming the sun? Whats the big difference between the XLH1 and XHA1? __________________ Geir Inge B. Brekke Visit me at: https://vimeo.com/gibbfilm

March 19th, 2007, 09:37 AM	#12
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	It's all a question of being able to take the light intensity level to something reasonable. What I do is apply the in-camera 1/32 ND filter and then increase the shutter speed to something ridiculous like 1/15000. The integrity of the colors at that level are fragile and don't necessarily represent what is being seen but the effect is beautiful. Obviously, I also close down the iris as much as I can. When all that is in place, the chances or damaging the CCD is probably pretty slim. I'm not shooting for more than about 20-30 seconds at a time. I've done this extensively with my DVX100 over the years also with no problems. By the way, I zoomed in completely to get that last shot. I didn't use a teleconverter, just the regular lens. __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

March 18th, 2007, 02:49 AM	#3
Glenn Thomas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 320	Brilliant! I love that end shot of the sun.

March 18th, 2007, 12:31 PM	#6
Tony Tremble Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 451	Are you enjoying the wide angle??? Looks like it to me... :) TT

March 18th, 2007, 05:41 PM	#7
Jeff Nelson Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 194	Beautiful, as always, Steven. Will try out that new setting, thanks.

March 18th, 2007, 10:36 PM	#9
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	wow that is really nice. your server is blazing fast too.

March 19th, 2007, 01:59 AM	#10
Jack Jenkins Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 122	nice footage. ...that last shot scares me because I had always heard about shooting directly into the sun for a prolonged time caused burned out ccds and/or created dead pixels? Is this no longer the case?

March 19th, 2007, 09:06 AM	#11
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	i've shot hours directly into sunrises and sunsets. i have heard that as well, but my cams are in perfect condition. however, i wouldn't suggest zooming all the way in at high noon.

March 19th, 2007, 10:32 AM	#14
Steven Dempsey Disjecta Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 937	Dino, "Scope" is just short for "Cinemascope" which is an aspect ratio used in some 35mm films (otherwise known as 2.35:1). I just like the look of it. For me, it gives the frame a much more filmic and epic look. Basically what I do is apply a mask on the top and bottom of the frame of 12.5% each. I am losing 25% of the frame by doing this but I am shooting and framing with this in mind always so it's not really a loss to me. __________________ Try my Digital Therapy: http://www.pinelakefilms.com/digital_therapy.html Films on ExposureRoom: http://exposureroom.com/members/disjecta.aspx/videos/

March 19th, 2007, 10:47 AM	#15
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	Indeed. Also, depending on the angle that you are shooting can dramatically change the color spectrum of the sunrise. The slightest tilt up or down can produce brilliant colors. For even more intese effect, slap on a color grad..like red, purple, tobacco.