XH A1 Head Cleaning at DVinfo.net

Robert Garvey · March 13th, 2007, 10:01 PM

Hi,

I thought I should have a head cleaning tape. The only one at the local store was a TDK MiniDV Head Cleaner (TDK CLDVMEA). It has no mention of being a 'wet' or 'dry' type and TDK web site is no better.

Anyone know if this cleaning tape is OK with XH A1?

Additionally, it is write protected and says to use in play mode.

Does play mode clean both record and playback heads? I had heard on another thread that there are two seperate heads - record and playback.

Chris Hurd · March 13th, 2007, 10:22 PM

It should be okay to use; brand really doesn't matter with a head cleaner. Five or six seconds is all; no more than that. Play in VCR mode. It'll get the job done.

Don Palomaki · March 14th, 2007, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Garvey

Does play mode clean both record and playback heads? I had heard on another thread that there are two seperate heads - record and playback.

Yes, the heads are on the rotating drum and the cleaning tape moves against the drum, just like normal recoding tape, same path for both record and play.

I believe that you will find that Canon MiniDV has two heads on opposite sides of the drum (1/2 turn away from each other). They are dual purpose, for record or play depending on the mode you are using.

Cal Bickford · March 14th, 2007, 06:18 PM

I was wondering the same thing because the A1 manual explicitly says to use "dry" cleaning tapes only. I have a sony DVM12CLD mini dv cleaning tape but it also doesn't say on the package if it is dry or wet, and i cant find any info on sony's site or anywhere else. Does anybody know of a good dry cleaning tape?

Bill Busby · March 14th, 2007, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cal Bickford

I was wondering the same thing because the A1 manual explicitly says to use "dry" cleaning tapes only. I have a sony DVM12CLD mini dv cleaning tape but it also doesn't say on the package if it is dry or wet, and i cant find any info on sony's site or anywhere else. Does anybody know of a good dry cleaning tape?

They mean NOT to use any commercially available cleaning prodcut that uses a "wet" cleaning process, meaning to NOT use any liquid based product that you place a few drops on the cleaners "tape" (which is usually kind of cloth based & not actual tape).

Back in the day, these were common in the VHS/Betamax market. Most if not all would gummy up your heads no matter what they claimed. I've yet to see a similar product crop up regarding miniDV.

Just use a name brand mini cleaning tape & you should be fine.

Bill

David McGiffert · March 14th, 2007, 10:00 PM

Thanks Bill,

That clears up the confusion.

David

Philip Hinkle · March 14th, 2007, 10:17 PM

I just got a few A1s and have a related head cleaning question. How often should you clean them. If you wait till you start getting drop outs you will be screwed since dropout in HDV are much worse than SD land. When is it time. I don't want to clean them too often and shorten their lives.

Robert Garvey · March 14th, 2007, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Hinkle

I just got a few A1s and have a related head cleaning question. How often should you clean them. If you wait till you start getting drop outs you will be screwed since dropout in HDV are much worse than SD land. When is it time. I don't want to clean them too often and shorten their lives.

Well to quote from the manaul on page 144 ... 'Frequently'!.

Philip Hinkle · March 15th, 2007, 06:49 AM

Duh....of course frequently. But how frequently....just wondering if anyone has a feel for it. A friend who used to own GL2s cleaned his heads before every wedding and wore out the cams in just a year or two. I don't want to go down that road....I just don't want to wait for dropouts to clean them cause then it's too late.

Jim Miller · March 15th, 2007, 09:27 AM

The frequency really depends on the environment in which you shoot as well as the number of hrs. For example - I shoot motorcycle videos and am constantly out at the track or on open roads with wind blowing up dirt and debris. I run my cleaner for 6-8 seconds about every 3-4 tapes under these conditions. Indoor shooting I clean about every 10-15 tapes

The heads on my DVX lasted 1400 hrs at the rate

March 13th, 2007, 10:01 PM	#1
Robert Garvey Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 100	XH A1 Head Cleaning Hi, I thought I should have a head cleaning tape. The only one at the local store was a TDK MiniDV Head Cleaner (TDK CLDVMEA). It has no mention of being a 'wet' or 'dry' type and TDK web site is no better. Anyone know if this cleaning tape is OK with XH A1? Additionally, it is write protected and says to use in play mode. Does play mode clean both record and playback heads? I had heard on another thread that there are two seperate heads - record and playback. __________________ Robert Garvey Photographer www.garvey.com.au

March 13th, 2007, 10:22 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	It should be okay to use; brand really doesn't matter with a head cleaner. Five or six seconds is all; no more than that. Play in VCR mode. It'll get the job done. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 14th, 2007, 06:18 PM	#4
Cal Bickford Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 157	dry or wet? I was wondering the same thing because the A1 manual explicitly says to use "dry" cleaning tapes only. I have a sony DVM12CLD mini dv cleaning tape but it also doesn't say on the package if it is dry or wet, and i cant find any info on sony's site or anywhere else. Does anybody know of a good dry cleaning tape?

March 14th, 2007, 10:17 PM	#7
Philip Hinkle Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stoughton, WI Posts: 169	Adding to the original question I just got a few A1s and have a related head cleaning question. How often should you clean them. If you wait till you start getting drop outs you will be screwed since dropout in HDV are much worse than SD land. When is it time. I don't want to clean them too often and shorten their lives.

March 14th, 2007, 10:00 PM	#6
David McGiffert Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Topanga, CA Posts: 139	Thanks Bill, That clears up the confusion. David

March 15th, 2007, 06:49 AM	#9
Philip Hinkle Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Stoughton, WI Posts: 169	Duh....of course frequently. But how frequently....just wondering if anyone has a feel for it. A friend who used to own GL2s cleaned his heads before every wedding and wore out the cams in just a year or two. I don't want to go down that road....I just don't want to wait for dropouts to clean them cause then it's too late.

March 15th, 2007, 09:27 AM	#10
Jim Miller Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa,Florida Posts: 236	The frequency really depends on the environment in which you shoot as well as the number of hrs. For example - I shoot motorcycle videos and am constantly out at the track or on open roads with wind blowing up dirt and debris. I run my cleaner for 6-8 seconds about every 3-4 tapes under these conditions. Indoor shooting I clean about every 10-15 tapes The heads on my DVX lasted 1400 hrs at the rate