XH Custom Preset Tuner Tool

Tony Tremble · February 5th, 2007, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki

Can anyone explain the theory behind all the color matrices (R-G Matrix etc), in layman's terms?

The R-G matrix shifts the image colour more red or green leaving blues in the image untouched.

TT

Piotr Wozniacki · February 5th, 2007, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Tremble

The R-G matrix shifts the image colour more red or green leaving blues in the image untouched.

TT

Tony, I get it that with negative values it shifts towards red, and with positive values - toward green. Fine, but we have separate R, G, B gains as well, not to mention the G-R matrix - why the redundancy? Frankly, I couldn't tell a difference when playing with them live, using the Console...

Tony Tremble · February 5th, 2007, 04:50 PM

Piotr

The effect of the matrices will depend on the colour content of the image you are shooting. Think of R,G & B as being axes of a cube and the Matrix functions of the XH-A1 are warping the colour space as represented by the cube along a particular axis.

Do a google search for 3d LUTs for a bit of background reading.

TT

Piotr Wozniacki · February 5th, 2007, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Tremble

Piotr
Do a google search for 3d LUTs for a bit of background reading.
TT

Thanks Tony - I've found a lot of reading, this will take me a big step forward!

Felix Theissen · February 16th, 2007, 06:37 AM

Hi,

i have moved the website (which has now a kind of layout)
with the download links of the XH and XLH1 custom preset editors to:

http://www.felixtheissen.com/apps/We...and%20win.html

The old link still works too, but i had to change the statistics provider, because
it was so slow it prevented the site from loading.

Felix

Even Solberg · February 16th, 2007, 07:19 AM

Felix: I like the tool, but would it be possible to add numeric input fields to go with the value sliders? Something along the lines of:

Color Gain ----------------|---------------- [ # ]
Red Gain ----------------|---------------- [ # ]
Green Gain ----------------|---------------- [ # ]
....

Makes inputting custom presets from web pages and whatnot easier and more accurate. Just a suggestion.

Jay Rodriguez · February 16th, 2007, 09:02 PM

that'll be a great thing to add

DL'ing the tool tonight and will play with it during the week... Thanks for sharing this Felix!

Even Solberg · February 18th, 2007, 05:36 AM

Oh, and some of the sliders seem to have two values for zero: 0 and -0 ... Surely an undocumented feature. :-)

Felix Theissen · February 18th, 2007, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Even Solberg

Oh, and some of the sliders seem to have two values for zero: 0 and -0 ... Surely an undocumented feature. :-)

That is some thing, which is related to the development environment. But that
does not affect anything related to the presets. Anayway, i will look, whether i
can change it, because -0 is something hat bothers me ;-)
I already have included the feature you proposed (type in values directly).
When i have tested it i will put this next release online.

Felix

Even Solberg · February 18th, 2007, 11:59 AM

Cool beans! Thanks. Looking forward.

Felix Theissen · February 26th, 2007, 08:23 AM

Hi,
i recently added the feature to type in the values directly and a possibility to
reset the application to default and a menu with shortcuts for saving and opening, so
this last release should be more effective for fast typers.
(possible to tab through the number fields)
The fields are selected by just entering them with tab key or the mouse (you don´t need
to click in them, thats only necessary if you want to select certain parts of the
numbers or text in the fields).
since i wrote 4 different versions (XH Editor for mac, XH Editor for win, XLH1
Editor for mac, XLH1 Editor for win)
my testing was maybe not enough and as everytime i tell everybody to be
aware and take care of possible bugs, as this is beta software. The use of
the software is on your own responsibility.
(If you find bugs, please let me know)

Felix

Even Solberg · February 26th, 2007, 09:51 AM

I just downloaded it. Looking good. I'll dink around with it and give you feedback.

Meryem Ersoz · February 26th, 2007, 11:59 AM

hi felix...this looks like a very nice tool, but i'm having the same issues that marty seems to be having. i can save the presets to a file, load them to the SD card, but they're not showing up in-camera. i'm using the unstuffed mac version. any news?

Even Solberg · February 26th, 2007, 12:07 PM

Meryem,

Just to check: You're calling your files PRESETxx.CPF (where xx is a number from 00 to 20), right?

Bill Busby · February 26th, 2007, 01:45 PM

It seems there's too many people having trouble with this. The folder on your SD card has to be named PRESET , just like that, all CAPS & not plural, it's singular.

Drop the preset files found here on the forum in the PRESET folder & everyone should be good to go.

Bill

February 16th, 2007, 06:37 AM	#50
Felix Theissen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 47	download links of the preset editors Hi, i have moved the website (which has now a kind of layout) with the download links of the XH and XLH1 custom preset editors to: http://www.felixtheissen.com/apps/We...and%20win.html The old link still works too, but i had to change the statistics provider, because it was so slow it prevented the site from loading. Felix

February 16th, 2007, 07:19 AM	#51
Even Solberg Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 106	Felix: I like the tool, but would it be possible to add numeric input fields to go with the value sliders? Something along the lines of: Color Gain ----------------\|---------------- [ # ] Red Gain ----------------\|---------------- [ # ] Green Gain ----------------\|---------------- [ # ] .... Makes inputting custom presets from web pages and whatnot easier and more accurate. Just a suggestion. __________________ "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." -- Edgar Allan Poe

February 16th, 2007, 09:02 PM	#52
Jay Rodriguez Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 80	that'll be a great thing to add DL'ing the tool tonight and will play with it during the week... Thanks for sharing this Felix! __________________ . www.itchyhousefilms.com

February 18th, 2007, 05:36 AM	#53
Even Solberg Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 106	Oh, and some of the sliders seem to have two values for zero: 0 and -0 ... Surely an undocumented feature. :-) __________________ "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." -- Edgar Allan Poe

February 18th, 2007, 11:59 AM	#55
Even Solberg Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 106	Cool beans! Thanks. Looking forward. __________________ "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." -- Edgar Allan Poe

February 5th, 2007, 04:50 PM	#48
Tony Tremble Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 451	Piotr The effect of the matrices will depend on the colour content of the image you are shooting. Think of R,G & B as being axes of a cube and the Matrix functions of the XH-A1 are warping the colour space as represented by the cube along a particular axis. Do a google search for 3d LUTs for a bit of background reading. TT

February 26th, 2007, 08:23 AM	#56
Felix Theissen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 47	new editor versions online Hi, i recently added the feature to type in the values directly and a possibility to reset the application to default and a menu with shortcuts for saving and opening, so this last release should be more effective for fast typers. (possible to tab through the number fields) The fields are selected by just entering them with tab key or the mouse (you don´t need to click in them, thats only necessary if you want to select certain parts of the numbers or text in the fields). since i wrote 4 different versions (XH Editor for mac, XH Editor for win, XLH1 Editor for mac, XLH1 Editor for win) my testing was maybe not enough and as everytime i tell everybody to be aware and take care of possible bugs, as this is beta software. The use of the software is on your own responsibility. (If you find bugs, please let me know) Felix

February 26th, 2007, 09:51 AM	#57
Even Solberg Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 106	I just downloaded it. Looking good. I'll dink around with it and give you feedback. __________________ "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." -- Edgar Allan Poe

February 26th, 2007, 11:59 AM	#58
Meryem Ersoz Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 3,015	hi felix...this looks like a very nice tool, but i'm having the same issues that marty seems to be having. i can save the presets to a file, load them to the SD card, but they're not showing up in-camera. i'm using the unstuffed mac version. any news?

February 26th, 2007, 12:07 PM	#59
Even Solberg Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 106	Meryem, Just to check: You're calling your files PRESETxx.CPF (where xx is a number from 00 to 20), right? __________________ "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." -- Edgar Allan Poe

February 26th, 2007, 01:45 PM	#60
Bill Busby Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 959	It seems there's too many people having trouble with this. The folder on your SD card has to be named PRESET , just like that, all CAPS & not plural, it's singular. Drop the preset files found here on the forum in the PRESET folder & everyone should be good to go. Bill