How to set up a firmware update wishlist? at DVinfo.net

Michael Mann · December 28th, 2006, 02:56 PM

How could we manage to set up and communicate a professional "wishlist" for a coming A1 firmware update that is likely to influence Canon's decision making?

(I have no idea how poll-threads are started/programmed, but couldn't we have a sort of multi-poll-wishlist, so that every wanted firmware fix/modification is an independent poll in a list?)

Michael Mann · December 29th, 2006, 11:41 AM

Okay ... I'd love to have the following firmware fixes:

- OIS activation/deactivation from custom keys
- TV mode: shutter speed does not remember the last setting
- TV mode 25F: 1/50s default shutter speed instead of 1/25s (1/25s ist not film-like!)
- Audio: switchable audio limiter

What else?

Stu Siegal · January 5th, 2007, 11:18 AM

Hey Michael,

Don't know why this thread didn't get more attention, let's revive it.

I'll second the request to make OIS a feature that can be mapped to a custom key - this is a biggie.

Also, rather than having to cycle through the custom preset buttons to choose a custom preset, I'd like the option to map the shutter, aperture priorty, clear scan, etc. positions to custom presets. These modes strike me as consumer-ish, I'd rather be able to spin through my most used presets quickly.

This is right out of the box for me, sure I'll have more.

Ing Poh Hii · January 5th, 2007, 11:43 AM

I would like to have:

- an option to flip the LCD display (for use with 35mm adapter)
- an option even better as suggested by Alex, record flip stream upside down to tape directly (so no more post production to collect footage shot with 35mm adapter, also useful for quick review).

Chris Hurd · January 5th, 2007, 01:05 PM

I'm happy to set up a "wishlist" poll. How many items should there be on the list and what should they be... within reason? The suggestions so far are good, but I wouldn't foster any hopes about flipping the recorded image in-camera. However, if hundreds of people indicate that they want it, then who knows what could happen...

Holly Rognan · January 5th, 2007, 01:18 PM

I would like more options for fine tuning the gain in the menu for the switch positions. I would like to use 9db gain sometimes, or even have the option to use 2db and 4db gain for finer control.

Rick Hensley · January 5th, 2007, 01:23 PM

I am a fairly new reader of this forum.

So far I have not seen any official representatives from canon post here. Has there been any evidence that anyone from canon that can influence camera development actually reads this site?

just curious...

Holly Rognan · January 5th, 2007, 01:28 PM

I would like an option to disable the color bars ( So i can permantly remove the tape)

I use color bars sometimes but I dont like the position of it, so a disable option would be great.

Also I would like a custom button in the menu for xlr mic enabling.

I would also like to have options to change the lcd color and evf to match each other. My evf is more accurate representation of color. I wish that I could dail in the color and hue to match my monitor (this has been bugging me for sometime)

Another easy feature to implement is having the ability to set different audio levels for left and right channels instead of being limited to one channel.

I have many things more but I can't think of them off the top of my head.

Bogdan Tyburczy · January 5th, 2007, 01:32 PM

When I reported the problem with -40 value in Custom settings, I mentioned DVInfo forum and recommended reviewing advanced users' opinions and ideas. I don't know if it made any difference. What more a humble person like me can do...

Canon make top notch products, but from my experience, their responses and customers relations style were very corporate, something like "Thank you for your interest in Canon products" blah blah blah.... Sure I'm interested! I own them :)

Sure, it would be nice to have one of their product managers regularly participating in the forum.

Chris Hurd · January 5th, 2007, 01:35 PM

Bogdan refers to his thread at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=80723

I'm thinking about merging this thread with his earlier one.

Chris Hurd · January 5th, 2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Hensley

So far I have not seen any official representatives from canon post here.

Their current internal corporate policy prohibits them from doing that.

Quote:

Has there been any evidence that anyone from canon that can influence camera development actually reads this site?

I know for a fact that the right people at CUSA do read this site. If you're looking for evidence, here it is:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=31636

Hope this helps,

Michael Mann · January 5th, 2007, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

I'm happy to set up a "wishlist" poll.

Great, Chris, I guess we all would appreciate that very much! Thanks in advance.

Maybe we start the poll right away with the wishes that we have so far - but still keep on collecting further wishes in this thread to add them to the poll later. What do you think?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

I know for a fact that the right people at CUSA do read this site.

Even Canon Support Germany (which I contacted regarding the focus pulsing problem) stated that they are "aware" of this site.

Stu Siegal · January 5th, 2007, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Mann

Maybe we start the poll right away with the wishes that we have so far - but still keep on collecting further wishes in this thread to add them to the poll later. What do you think?

This sounds good to me. I'd also like to add a request for the ability to completely remove the zoom bar on the upper left of the screen (as opposed to just disabling it), it's clutter.

Holly Rognan · January 5th, 2007, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Siegal

This sounds good to me. I'd also like to add a request for the ability to completely remove the zoom bar on the upper left of the screen (as opposed to just disabling it), it's clutter.

I thought you could do this.

Alex Leith · January 5th, 2007, 02:35 PM

My wishlist

1. OIS on custom key!!!
2. 1/50th default shutter speed in 25F (or at least the capacity to remember the selected shutter speed.
3. Exposure override via iris ring in Tv and Av mode.
4. Soft clipping in manual audio mode
5. Custom presets select via shutter scroll wheel
6. Image flip on LCD (I'm guessing it's a stretch)

December 28th, 2006, 02:56 PM	#1
Michael Mann Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kelkheim, Germany Posts: 375	How to set up a firmware update wishlist? How could we manage to set up and communicate a professional "wishlist" for a coming A1 firmware update that is likely to influence Canon's decision making? (I have no idea how poll-threads are started/programmed, but couldn't we have a sort of multi-poll-wishlist, so that every wanted firmware fix/modification is an independent poll in a list?) __________________ Michael Last edited by Michael Mann; December 29th, 2006 at 11:41 AM.

December 29th, 2006, 11:41 AM	#2
Michael Mann Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kelkheim, Germany Posts: 375	Okay ... I'd love to have the following firmware fixes: - OIS activation/deactivation from custom keys - TV mode: shutter speed does not remember the last setting - TV mode 25F: 1/50s default shutter speed instead of 1/25s (1/25s ist not film-like!) - Audio: switchable audio limiter What else? __________________ Michael

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Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	I'm happy to set up a "wishlist" poll. How many items should there be on the list and what should they be... within reason? The suggestions so far are good, but I wouldn't foster any hopes about flipping the recorded image in-camera. However, if hundreds of people indicate that they want it, then who knows what could happen... __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

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Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Bogdan refers to his thread at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=80723 I'm thinking about merging this thread with his earlier one. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 5th, 2007, 02:35 PM	#15
Alex Leith Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Northampton, England Posts: 500	My wishlist 1. OIS on custom key!!! 2. 1/50th default shutter speed in 25F (or at least the capacity to remember the selected shutter speed. 3. Exposure override via iris ring in Tv and Av mode. 4. Soft clipping in manual audio mode 5. Custom presets select via shutter scroll wheel 6. Image flip on LCD (I'm guessing it's a stretch) __________________ Alex

January 5th, 2007, 11:18 AM	#3
Stu Siegal Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 151	Hey Michael, Don't know why this thread didn't get more attention, let's revive it. I'll second the request to make OIS a feature that can be mapped to a custom key - this is a biggie. Also, rather than having to cycle through the custom preset buttons to choose a custom preset, I'd like the option to map the shutter, aperture priorty, clear scan, etc. positions to custom presets. These modes strike me as consumer-ish, I'd rather be able to spin through my most used presets quickly. This is right out of the box for me, sure I'll have more.

January 5th, 2007, 11:43 AM	#4
Ing Poh Hii Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kuching, Malaysia Posts: 104	I would like to have: - an option to flip the LCD display (for use with 35mm adapter) - an option even better as suggested by Alex, record flip stream upside down to tape directly (so no more post production to collect footage shot with 35mm adapter, also useful for quick review).

January 5th, 2007, 01:18 PM	#6
Holly Rognan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Coalville America Posts: 244	I would like more options for fine tuning the gain in the menu for the switch positions. I would like to use 9db gain sometimes, or even have the option to use 2db and 4db gain for finer control.

January 5th, 2007, 01:23 PM	#7
Rick Hensley Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 52	I am a fairly new reader of this forum. So far I have not seen any official representatives from canon post here. Has there been any evidence that anyone from canon that can influence camera development actually reads this site? just curious...

January 5th, 2007, 01:28 PM	#8
Holly Rognan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Coalville America Posts: 244	I would like an option to disable the color bars ( So i can permantly remove the tape) I use color bars sometimes but I dont like the position of it, so a disable option would be great. Also I would like a custom button in the menu for xlr mic enabling. I would also like to have options to change the lcd color and evf to match each other. My evf is more accurate representation of color. I wish that I could dail in the color and hue to match my monitor (this has been bugging me for sometime) Another easy feature to implement is having the ability to set different audio levels for left and right channels instead of being limited to one channel. I have many things more but I can't think of them off the top of my head.

January 5th, 2007, 01:32 PM	#9
Bogdan Tyburczy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 161	When I reported the problem with -40 value in Custom settings, I mentioned DVInfo forum and recommended reviewing advanced users' opinions and ideas. I don't know if it made any difference. What more a humble person like me can do... Canon make top notch products, but from my experience, their responses and customers relations style were very corporate, something like "Thank you for your interest in Canon products" blah blah blah.... Sure I'm interested! I own them :) Sure, it would be nice to have one of their product managers regularly participating in the forum.