PAL A1 arrived / Thank you at DVinfo.net

Poppe Johansson · December 2nd, 2006, 10:05 AM

Sorry for the "no information thread", but I just wanted to thank you all for your time in this A1/G1 forum. All these posted clips and user reviews have been very helpful for me. So, thank you!

Chuck Spaulding · December 2nd, 2006, 12:24 PM

There's plenty of information in your post -- hopefully its that your a happy new A1 owner and will share your experiences with the rest of us.

Congratulations...

Poppe Johansson · December 2nd, 2006, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Spaulding

-- hopefully its that your a happy new A1 owner and will share your experiences with the rest of us.
Congratulations...

This far it has been great. I really think I will like this camcorder a lot. The lens is great, even if it has quite much barrel distortion. It's very easy to learn where manual controls are (only the record review button, beside magnification seems to be in wrong place, or should I say in dangerous place). All in all controls seem to be in right places. And like the others have said, camera is very well balanced for its size and doesn't feel heavy at all.
Low light is far better than in my previous cam Sony HVR-A1. Of course when I filmed candles, I did miss CMOS a little (there's some vertical smearing in XH, which HVR doesn't have). For me the noise of XH looks much nicer than one of HVR. Day light footage is.. what can I say - fantastic.
But I really have to dig this thing more, until I can say anything else.

So why didn't I wait for V1 and chose A1?
- Wider lens. Don't always have to use wide converter.
- Even if Sony's gain doesn't probably add as much noise as XH's, I like Canon's noise more.. Well, I don't like it, but it doesn't bother me as much as CMOS's noise. I'm sure someone would think vice versa.
- A1's picture controls are thrilling (customized functions).
- Onboard stereo mic. Even though I don't use it much, sometimes it's very important to have an option to record stereo material easily.

Rafael Lopes · December 3rd, 2006, 12:53 AM

Hey Pope, how is 25F doing it for you? Too bad we don't have 24F in Pal's land. I'm crossing my fingers to receive my A1 this week! All these weeks of waiting looking at all the cool footage being posted are killing me.

Daymon Hoffman · December 3rd, 2006, 03:16 AM

Congrats! it would be nice to see some PAl footage. Would i be correct in thinking that we have a better image (if ever so slightly) due to having less Frames per second at the same resolution and bitrate of HDV? Would be good to have someone test that to see. :)

Poppe Johansson · December 3rd, 2006, 03:50 AM

Rafael: I don't think it really matters much that PAL doesn't do 24F. If you need to do film transfer, it can be done easily from 25F, too. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of video camcorder's progressive 24/25. But 25F doesn't look bad at all. I have only tested F-mode very shortly, so I must test it more before I can say anything else.
It's raining heavily here. I hope it will stop soon, I want to get out and shoot :D

Adrian Paul Spiteri · December 3rd, 2006, 01:45 PM

What is the price of the PAL version ? Where did you buy it from?

Poppe Johansson · December 3rd, 2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrian Paul Spiteri

What is the price of the PAL version ? Where did you buy it from?

I bought it from a local Canon dealer (Rajala Pro Shop). VAT free price is here about 3300 euros.

Ferdi Willemse · December 4th, 2006, 05:05 AM

wow, that's really cheap. In the Netherlands it ranges from 4000 to 4200 euro.
Edit: oh sorry, it's 4000 here inc. VAT, so probably the same price as in Finland.

Steven Fokkinga · December 4th, 2006, 05:29 AM

You can find it for about 3300-3400 inc VAT in Germany. I'm not allowed to post specific stores, but look around and thou will find...

Ferdi Willemse · December 4th, 2006, 07:51 AM

Thanks Steven, but what about the firmware language? Is it also English?

Rafael Lopes · December 4th, 2006, 10:52 AM

I bought mine for 3194€ with all taxes and shipping included. It's supposed to arrive in 1 or 2 days. I'm freaking out with excitement!

Rafael Lopes · December 5th, 2006, 12:38 PM

Just got it today. I think that for people who live in Europe in countries where the A1's price is like 3700€ it's worth it to hop on a plane, buy the camera and leave. You can find flights withing Europe for 30€.

Toenis Liivamaegi · December 5th, 2006, 01:07 PM

Raf, where did you get the cam for that price in EU with that fast delivery?
Please, post some guidelines.
IBAN bank transactions and EU postage could be even faster than real life flight across EU.

Thanks in advance,
T

Steven Fokkinga · December 5th, 2006, 05:58 PM

Yeah, but it's certainly much nicer to fly to a european city over weekends and call it a business trip :)

December 2nd, 2006, 10:05 AM	#1
Poppe Johansson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 77	PAL A1 arrived / Thank you Sorry for the "no information thread", but I just wanted to thank you all for your time in this A1/G1 forum. All these posted clips and user reviews have been very helpful for me. So, thank you!

December 3rd, 2006, 03:16 AM	#5
Daymon Hoffman Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 267	Congrats! it would be nice to see some PAl footage. Would i be correct in thinking that we have a better image (if ever so slightly) due to having less Frames per second at the same resolution and bitrate of HDV? Would be good to have someone test that to see. :) __________________ Welcome... to the real world!

December 2nd, 2006, 12:24 PM	#2
Chuck Spaulding Trustee Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Thousand Oaks Posts: 1,104	There's plenty of information in your post -- hopefully its that your a happy new A1 owner and will share your experiences with the rest of us. Congratulations...

December 3rd, 2006, 12:53 AM	#4
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	Hey Pope, how is 25F doing it for you? Too bad we don't have 24F in Pal's land. I'm crossing my fingers to receive my A1 this week! All these weeks of waiting looking at all the cool footage being posted are killing me.

December 3rd, 2006, 03:50 AM	#6
Poppe Johansson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 77	Rafael: I don't think it really matters much that PAL doesn't do 24F. If you need to do film transfer, it can be done easily from 25F, too. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of video camcorder's progressive 24/25. But 25F doesn't look bad at all. I have only tested F-mode very shortly, so I must test it more before I can say anything else. It's raining heavily here. I hope it will stop soon, I want to get out and shoot :D

December 3rd, 2006, 01:45 PM	#7
Adrian Paul Spiteri Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Malta\| Europe Posts: 55	What is the price of the PAL version ? Where did you buy it from?

December 4th, 2006, 05:05 AM	#9
Ferdi Willemse New Boot Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 24	wow, that's really cheap. In the Netherlands it ranges from 4000 to 4200 euro. Edit: oh sorry, it's 4000 here inc. VAT, so probably the same price as in Finland.

December 4th, 2006, 05:29 AM	#10
Steven Fokkinga Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 204	You can find it for about 3300-3400 inc VAT in Germany. I'm not allowed to post specific stores, but look around and thou will find...

December 4th, 2006, 07:51 AM	#11
Ferdi Willemse New Boot Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 24	Thanks Steven, but what about the firmware language? Is it also English?

December 4th, 2006, 10:52 AM	#12
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	I bought mine for 3194€ with all taxes and shipping included. It's supposed to arrive in 1 or 2 days. I'm freaking out with excitement!

December 5th, 2006, 12:38 PM	#13
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	Just got it today. I think that for people who live in Europe in countries where the A1's price is like 3700€ it's worth it to hop on a plane, buy the camera and leave. You can find flights withing Europe for 30€.

December 5th, 2006, 01:07 PM	#14
Toenis Liivamaegi Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tartu, Estonia Posts: 579	Raf, where did you get the cam for that price in EU with that fast delivery? Please, post some guidelines. IBAN bank transactions and EU postage could be even faster than real life flight across EU. Thanks in advance, T

December 5th, 2006, 05:58 PM	#15
Steven Fokkinga Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 204	Yeah, but it's certainly much nicer to fly to a european city over weekends and call it a business trip :)