More night footage in NYC

Rafael Lopes · November 16th, 2006, 02:59 AM

My heart is pounding. This is happening whenever I see A1 footage. Could it be love? :D

Rafael Lopes · November 16th, 2006, 03:43 AM

BTW, what did you do on color correction?

The more I see footage from the A1 the more I think "Do I really need a 35mm adapter for this camera?". This camera doesn't have the fake digital DOF look other cameras have. The A1 has an amazing DOF and beautiful bokeh.

Michael Padilla · November 16th, 2006, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rafael Lopes

The A1 has an amazing DOF

My XL2 is way better at DOF; this is way too deep.. I have been working with it alot.. its not shallow at all!

Rafael Lopes · November 16th, 2006, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Padilla

My XL2 is way better at DOF; this is way too deep.. I have been working with it alot.. its not shallow at all!

So far I haven't seen anything AT ALL from the Xl2 that beats the A1 (dof included)

BTW, from everywhere I read you are the only person so far who is not amazed by the A1's dof/bokeh capabilities.

Bill Pryor · November 16th, 2006, 09:22 AM

Depth of field of both cameras is going to be the same under the same conditions because they both have the same size chips. The reason he had such shallow depth of field was because he was zoomed in really far in most of those people shots, and probably shooting pretty wide open.

About shooting people on the streets...I've shot on the streets in Chicago but have always done it hand held. Generally everybody ignored me. But here in KC everybody looks at the camera or waves or makes dumb faces if they think they're being shot. A camera with an LCD screen can help solve that problem if you're on a tripod. Flip the screen over and up against the side of the camera so you can stand beside the camera and look toward its side, ie., at a right angle to the direction of the lens. You can act like you're not really shooting (turn off the record light), and people will for the most part ignore you.

When I shot street scenes in Chicago, I did it all hand held, leaning up against lampposts, etc., for stability. I had heard that if you bring out a tripod, the gendarmes may come and want your nonexistant permit.

I may place my order for the A1 today. And then move to NY or Tokyo just so I can shoot cool nighttime street scenes (I wish).

Peter Chung · November 16th, 2006, 05:46 PM

I love your footage! The images looked very crisp and film-like. Very impressive and thanks for sharing!

Rafael Lopes · November 16th, 2006, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Pryor

About shooting people on the streets...I've shot on the streets in Chicago but have always done it hand held. Generally everybody ignored me. But here in KC everybody looks at the camera or waves or makes dumb faces if they think they're being shot. A camera with an LCD screen can help solve that problem if you're on a tripod. Flip the screen over and up against the side of the camera so you can stand beside the camera and look toward its side, ie., at a right angle to the direction of the lens. You can act like you're not really shooting (turn off the record light), and people will for the most part ignore you.
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I shoot a lot on the streets and I REALLY hate when some clown starts waving into the camera or making "funny" faces...new cameras should come with tasers ;-)

Michael Y Wong · November 17th, 2006, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rafael Lopes

I shoot a lot on the streets and I REALLY hate when some clown starts waving into the camera or making "funny" faces...new cameras should come with tasers ;-)

damn right, last week i was helpgin shoot a short in downtown toronto (busy area, moderately comparable to nyc but by no means as hectic), there were a few bums who noticed the shoot and purposedly walked into the background whistling, makign stupid noises etc etc.!

I am being seriuosly sold on the XH-A1 over the HVR-V1!!! The night quality is absolutely fantastic.

Chuck Spaulding · November 17th, 2006, 01:30 AM

Thanks for posting that footage -- as has been mentioned so many times before it looks fantastic.

Does the A1 do timelapse?

Also what was the music?

I have seen some amazing night footage posted here and else where, how good does it look in bright sunlight?

Noel Evans · November 17th, 2006, 06:54 AM

Cool. Those snap zooms were nice and you use the focus nicely. Can I suggest turning the sharpness down a tad and it will help battle the reds a little. I have found also the black set at mid, gives a good result.

With footage like this around I cant wait to see a feature made on this cam. Im scheduled for March but hoping there is one sooner.

Chuck go shoot 30 minutes an hour or whatever of footage and speed up in post. Beautiful.

Spencer Lum · November 17th, 2006, 08:30 AM

Thanks again for the comments everyone!

Rafeal - For the color correction, I brought the black down just a tad and added a hint of green on some shots. Otherwise, that's about it.

Chuck - Don't know about the timelapse yet, but the music was The First Time from Daneil Lanois. The day footage looks very nice, btw. I'll try to post some shots once I get a moment, but I was quite impressed from my testing so far.

Noel - Thanks for the tip!

I originally bought the A1 for wedding work, intending to use my HVX for creative material, and like many, I was debating over this and the V1, but I like the camera so much, I think I'll try to shoot some shorts with it to see how it holds up. Still curious to see how the V1 will compare, but I'm so happy with A1 overall that even if the V1 does turn out to be comparable, I can't imagine there would be any way I'd be unhappy with my choice.

Chris Suzor · November 17th, 2006, 08:57 AM

Nice video, thanks.

How does everyone feel about the 24F vs true 24P? I shoot 25P with dvx100be, and the true 25P image (576 lines) upscales to hi-rez very well, much better than a 50i image. This 24F video shows the limitations of canon's approach, there are interlace artefacts on many fast moving objects.

I am disapointed with the lens on the dvx, but the progressive image has me hooked. Does the canon have a true progressive (720p or higher) image, or not? Does the HVX?

Regards
Christophe

Noel Evans · November 17th, 2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Suzor

Nice video, thanks.

How does everyone feel about the 24F vs true 24P? I shoot 25P with dvx100be, and the true 25P image (576 lines) upscales to hi-rez very well, much better than a 50i image. This 24F video shows the limitations of canon's approach, there are interlace artefacts on many fast moving objects.

Sorry but are you kidding?

Nick Weeks · November 17th, 2006, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Suzor

This 24F video shows the limitations of canon's approach, there are interlace artefacts on many fast moving objects.

I don't see this at all on his video or any others I've seen... ?

Philip Williams · November 17th, 2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Suzor

<snip>This 24F video shows the limitations of canon's approach, there are interlace artefacts on many fast moving objects.
<snip>

Are you seeing this in the Quicktime downloads or the original M2T files? I've noticed a lot of QT files display interlacing lines, regardless of the original video type.

November 17th, 2006, 08:57 AM	#27
Chris Suzor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Aix-en-provence, France Posts: 32	24F vs progressive Nice video, thanks. How does everyone feel about the 24F vs true 24P? I shoot 25P with dvx100be, and the true 25P image (576 lines) upscales to hi-rez very well, much better than a 50i image. This 24F video shows the limitations of canon's approach, there are interlace artefacts on many fast moving objects. I am disapointed with the lens on the dvx, but the progressive image has me hooked. Does the canon have a true progressive (720p or higher) image, or not? Does the HVX? Regards Christophe

November 16th, 2006, 02:59 AM	#16
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	My heart is pounding. This is happening whenever I see A1 footage. Could it be love? :D

November 16th, 2006, 03:43 AM	#17
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	BTW, what did you do on color correction? The more I see footage from the A1 the more I think "Do I really need a 35mm adapter for this camera?". This camera doesn't have the fake digital DOF look other cameras have. The A1 has an amazing DOF and beautiful bokeh.

November 16th, 2006, 09:22 AM	#20
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Depth of field of both cameras is going to be the same under the same conditions because they both have the same size chips. The reason he had such shallow depth of field was because he was zoomed in really far in most of those people shots, and probably shooting pretty wide open. About shooting people on the streets...I've shot on the streets in Chicago but have always done it hand held. Generally everybody ignored me. But here in KC everybody looks at the camera or waves or makes dumb faces if they think they're being shot. A camera with an LCD screen can help solve that problem if you're on a tripod. Flip the screen over and up against the side of the camera so you can stand beside the camera and look toward its side, ie., at a right angle to the direction of the lens. You can act like you're not really shooting (turn off the record light), and people will for the most part ignore you. When I shot street scenes in Chicago, I did it all hand held, leaning up against lampposts, etc., for stability. I had heard that if you bring out a tripod, the gendarmes may come and want your nonexistant permit. I may place my order for the A1 today. And then move to NY or Tokyo just so I can shoot cool nighttime street scenes (I wish).

November 16th, 2006, 05:46 PM	#21
Peter Chung Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO USA Posts: 220	I love your footage! The images looked very crisp and film-like. Very impressive and thanks for sharing!

November 17th, 2006, 01:30 AM	#24
Chuck Spaulding Trustee Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Thousand Oaks Posts: 1,104	Thanks for posting that footage -- as has been mentioned so many times before it looks fantastic. Does the A1 do timelapse? Also what was the music? I have seen some amazing night footage posted here and else where, how good does it look in bright sunlight?

November 17th, 2006, 06:54 AM	#25
Noel Evans Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 157	Cool. Those snap zooms were nice and you use the focus nicely. Can I suggest turning the sharpness down a tad and it will help battle the reds a little. I have found also the black set at mid, gives a good result. With footage like this around I cant wait to see a feature made on this cam. Im scheduled for March but hoping there is one sooner. Chuck go shoot 30 minutes an hour or whatever of footage and speed up in post. Beautiful.

November 17th, 2006, 08:30 AM	#26
Spencer Lum New Boot Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 21	Thanks again for the comments everyone! Rafeal - For the color correction, I brought the black down just a tad and added a hint of green on some shots. Otherwise, that's about it. Chuck - Don't know about the timelapse yet, but the music was The First Time from Daneil Lanois. The day footage looks very nice, btw. I'll try to post some shots once I get a moment, but I was quite impressed from my testing so far. Noel - Thanks for the tip! I originally bought the A1 for wedding work, intending to use my HVX for creative material, and like many, I was debating over this and the V1, but I like the camera so much, I think I'll try to shoot some shorts with it to see how it holds up. Still curious to see how the V1 will compare, but I'm so happy with A1 overall that even if the V1 does turn out to be comparable, I can't imagine there would be any way I'd be unhappy with my choice.