Wide Angle Adaptor for XH A1?

Marty Hudzik · November 9th, 2006, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Glicker

I was just hunting around the Internet and didn't see any WD-H72's in-stock (on the english websites). Where did you find it?

Christine at ZGC told me they got some in. Call her and check on it. I am not sure how many or if they are all already sold but it is worth a try.

Steven Glicker · November 9th, 2006, 10:24 AM

Thanks Marty. I just talked to Travis at ZGC and he said they had two left, so I ordered one. He also said that they are out of filter kits because of all the A1 sales. (Am I getting caught up in the hysteria??? :-)

Jay Fisk · November 22nd, 2006, 11:24 PM

Agreed, $400 is a bargain. There was no vignetting evident in the spaghetti video. As the WD-H72 appears to be a quarter-turn twist on lens I'm wondering what the filter options are? It's obviously got larger front glass (unknown size) and in the owner's manual on p154 it shows the WD adaptor with it's own hood. B&H has the clearest photo, they spec it as a .75 but it's engraved with a .8 - In looking at a pic on the watchdog site (thanks Chris!) it looks like internal threads on the base lens PLUS the external bayonet leading me to think the placemant of 72mm filters would be between the XH lens and the WD adaptor vs the front of the wide adaptor. If this is right, it's so wrong. Add that matte box to the shopping list!

Chuck Fadely · November 23rd, 2006, 08:42 AM

We've got the WD H72 wide angle. It screws in to the camera's 72mm threads; it's not bayonet.

The front friction-fit lens cap says it's 109mm (the outside diameter of the w/a lens). The enormous hood included with the wide angle clamps on.

There are no threads or bayonet on the front of the wide angle lens, so you'd have to use a matte box for filters.

It is marked as .8x. It's a nice, sharp, contrasty zoom-through wide angle, but still has some barrel distortion at the widest.

It is better than our 16x9 Inc. wide lens.

chuck

Greg Rothschild · November 23rd, 2006, 11:13 AM

Were money no object- what's the best wide angle adapter available for the XH-A/G1?

Pete Bauer · November 23rd, 2006, 12:23 PM

I doubt anyone anywhere has done an objective, complete side-by-side comparison of different wide adapters that would fit this camera, but since Canon developed their new WD-H72 wide angle adapter specifically in conjunction with the XH cameras and early user reports like Chuck's sound pretty good, that's an odds on bet for the best adapter.

Steven Glicker · November 23rd, 2006, 01:04 PM

ZGC sent my WD H72 promptly (see above) but I've been distracted and have not spent time with it. Below are some quick photos of it (hopefully I'll take some with it soon B^).

The kit includes the WA, two lens caps, a hood and a bag, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0157_WA_KitContents.jpg The bag will hold the lens and hood but the size of the hood makes the fit loose and somewhat unsecure compared to the bag for the GL2's WA (which I used for packing in a backpack).

The kit comes with an sheet of instructions, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0181_WA_Instructions.jpg http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0182_WA_Precautions.jpg http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0180_WA_Specs.jpg http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0184_WA_Diagram.jpg

Here is a closeup of the end that attaches to the camera, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0165_WA_...ideThreads.jpg

Here is a look at the other end, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0161_WA_SideTop.jpg (No filter mount as indicated in the Precautions above).

We've already heard that it obstructs the Quick Focus lens. Here's a look, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0169_WA_...bstruction.jpg

Here is a front view of the WA mounted with the hood, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0188_WA_HoodMounted.jpg and a side shot, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0195_WA_SideMounted.jpg

The lens cap can be placed on the WA directly or on the hood however mine does not mount as securely as I'd like. http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0191_WA_HoodCapMounted.jpg I scratched up the lens cap (and the hood) because I was not careful enough packing it a backpack.

Jay Fisk · November 24th, 2006, 04:57 AM

Thanks for the pics and specs - That's' more info on this lens than I've seen on any other site including the OEM.

This is the only clip I've seen so far that demos the before & after of the adaptor:
http://media.dvinfo.net/canonxh/XHA1WA-1.m2t

Don't get misled by the lens on the table with the bayonet, I thought it was the WD-H72 but obviously not.

Yikes, 1.6 lbs of glass. 26mm of wonderfulness. Soon!

Wade Hanchey · November 24th, 2006, 08:19 AM

Looking at it from the front, what is that in the lower left corner of the lens hood? I'm guessing it's access for lens cap removal??

Steven Glicker · November 24th, 2006, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Fisk

Thanks for the pics and specs - That's' more info on this lens than I've seen on any other site.

I think this site is great.

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Originally Posted by Wade Hanchey

Looking at it from the front, what is that in the lower left corner of the lens hood? I'm guessing it's access for lens cap removal??

You're right. There is a screw behind there for fastening the hood. Here is the shot with the hood screw (engaged/tightened), http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0215_WA_hoodScrew.jpg

Richard Hunter · December 3rd, 2006, 01:19 AM

Having bought an A1 today, I followed Bogdan's example and modified my Century Optics 0.7X lens converter to use with the A1. The whole thing took around 15 - 20 mins, and the converter still fits on the XL2. Given the non-existent second-hand market in Singapore, this is great news for me because I would be lucky to get $50 for it if I sold it with my XL2.

Thanks Bogdan for showing the way!

Richard

Marty Hudzik · December 3rd, 2006, 07:52 AM

Just stumbled onto this post. Wow. I modified my 0.6x wide angle adapter and my .7x wa adapter almost 2 years ago to get them to work on the 16x manual lens. I didn't realize how this was viewed as a big deal. Wish I'd have posted it sooner.

Great news though. It makes for a lot more flexibility and saves money too. I never wanted to have to buy 2 adapters for 2 different lenses. Especially when the only difference is a few millimeters of steel on the lens mount!

Peace!

Bogdan Tyburczy · December 3rd, 2006, 11:53 AM

It's not as sharp as Canon's adapter corner-to-corner (Chris has posted some impressive examples), but soo wide angle. I'm glad it was so easy to adapt for XH A1 and that it works for you. I'm also glad I didn't sell mine too soon. I will definitely keep it in the arsenal. Cheers!

James Swirsky · December 4th, 2006, 12:15 PM

Over on Xlcinema, there are some pics from a canon event held in NY the other day.

One of the items showcased is a Canon WA adapter for the XH series (though I suppose it'll work on the 72mm XL).

Good to see some accessories rolling out.

Barlow Elton reports:

http://xlcinema.com/look/showthread.php?t=1483

Holly Rognan · December 4th, 2006, 12:25 PM

I don't think it will work on the XL-H1, from what I have heard.

November 23rd, 2006, 12:23 PM	#36
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	I doubt anyone anywhere has done an objective, complete side-by-side comparison of different wide adapters that would fit this camera, but since Canon developed their new WD-H72 wide angle adapter specifically in conjunction with the XH cameras and early user reports like Chuck's sound pretty good, that's an odds on bet for the best adapter. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

November 24th, 2006, 04:57 AM	#38
Jay Fisk Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: CSL BCS MX Posts: 67	Thanks for the pics and specs - That's' more info on this lens than I've seen on any other site including the OEM. This is the only clip I've seen so far that demos the before & after of the adaptor: http://media.dvinfo.net/canonxh/XHA1WA-1.m2t Don't get misled by the lens on the table with the bayonet, I thought it was the WD-H72 but obviously not. Yikes, 1.6 lbs of glass. 26mm of wonderfulness. Soon! Last edited by Jay Fisk; November 24th, 2006 at 12:26 PM.

December 3rd, 2006, 11:53 AM	#43
Bogdan Tyburczy Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 161	It's not as sharp as Canon's adapter corner-to-corner (Chris has posted some impressive examples), but soo wide angle. I'm glad it was so easy to adapt for XH A1 and that it works for you. I'm also glad I didn't sell mine too soon. I will definitely keep it in the arsenal. Cheers! Last edited by Bogdan Tyburczy; December 3rd, 2006 at 12:51 PM.

December 4th, 2006, 12:15 PM	#44
James Swirsky New Boot Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winnipeg, MB Posts: 16	Canon Wide Angle Adapter Coming Soon ...? Over on Xlcinema, there are some pics from a canon event held in NY the other day. One of the items showcased is a Canon WA adapter for the XH series (though I suppose it'll work on the 72mm XL). Good to see some accessories rolling out. Barlow Elton reports: http://xlcinema.com/look/showthread.php?t=1483

November 9th, 2006, 10:24 AM	#32
Steven Glicker Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 52	Thanks Marty. I just talked to Travis at ZGC and he said they had two left, so I ordered one. He also said that they are out of filter kits because of all the A1 sales. (Am I getting caught up in the hysteria??? :-)

November 22nd, 2006, 11:24 PM	#33
Jay Fisk Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: CSL BCS MX Posts: 67	Agreed, $400 is a bargain. There was no vignetting evident in the spaghetti video. As the WD-H72 appears to be a quarter-turn twist on lens I'm wondering what the filter options are? It's obviously got larger front glass (unknown size) and in the owner's manual on p154 it shows the WD adaptor with it's own hood. B&H has the clearest photo, they spec it as a .75 but it's engraved with a .8 - In looking at a pic on the watchdog site (thanks Chris!) it looks like internal threads on the base lens PLUS the external bayonet leading me to think the placemant of 72mm filters would be between the XH lens and the WD adaptor vs the front of the wide adaptor. If this is right, it's so wrong. Add that matte box to the shopping list!

November 23rd, 2006, 08:42 AM	#34
Chuck Fadely Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: United States Posts: 306	We've got the WD H72 wide angle. It screws in to the camera's 72mm threads; it's not bayonet. The front friction-fit lens cap says it's 109mm (the outside diameter of the w/a lens). The enormous hood included with the wide angle clamps on. There are no threads or bayonet on the front of the wide angle lens, so you'd have to use a matte box for filters. It is marked as .8x. It's a nice, sharp, contrasty zoom-through wide angle, but still has some barrel distortion at the widest. It is better than our 16x9 Inc. wide lens. chuck

November 23rd, 2006, 11:13 AM	#35
Greg Rothschild Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 120	Were money no object- what's the best wide angle adapter available for the XH-A/G1?

November 23rd, 2006, 01:04 PM	#37
Steven Glicker Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 52	ZGC sent my WD H72 promptly (see above) but I've been distracted and have not spent time with it. Below are some quick photos of it (hopefully I'll take some with it soon B^). The kit includes the WA, two lens caps, a hood and a bag, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0157_WA_KitContents.jpg The bag will hold the lens and hood but the size of the hood makes the fit loose and somewhat unsecure compared to the bag for the GL2's WA (which I used for packing in a backpack). The kit comes with an sheet of instructions, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0181_WA_Instructions.jpg http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0182_WA_Precautions.jpg http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0180_WA_Specs.jpg http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0184_WA_Diagram.jpg Here is a closeup of the end that attaches to the camera, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0165_WA_...ideThreads.jpg Here is a look at the other end, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0161_WA_SideTop.jpg (No filter mount as indicated in the Precautions above). We've already heard that it obstructs the Quick Focus lens. Here's a look, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0169_WA_...bstruction.jpg Here is a front view of the WA mounted with the hood, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0188_WA_HoodMounted.jpg and a side shot, http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0195_WA_SideMounted.jpg The lens cap can be placed on the WA directly or on the hood however mine does not mount as securely as I'd like. http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0191_WA_HoodCapMounted.jpg I scratched up the lens cap (and the hood) because I was not careful enough packing it a backpack.

November 24th, 2006, 08:19 AM	#39
Wade Hanchey Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 117	Looking at it from the front, what is that in the lower left corner of the lens hood? I'm guessing it's access for lens cap removal??

December 3rd, 2006, 01:19 AM	#41
Richard Hunter Trustee Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lipa City Batangas, Philippines Posts: 1,110	Having bought an A1 today, I followed Bogdan's example and modified my Century Optics 0.7X lens converter to use with the A1. The whole thing took around 15 - 20 mins, and the converter still fits on the XL2. Given the non-existent second-hand market in Singapore, this is great news for me because I would be lucky to get $50 for it if I sold it with my XL2. Thanks Bogdan for showing the way! Richard

December 3rd, 2006, 07:52 AM	#42
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Just stumbled onto this post. Wow. I modified my 0.6x wide angle adapter and my .7x wa adapter almost 2 years ago to get them to work on the 16x manual lens. I didn't realize how this was viewed as a big deal. Wish I'd have posted it sooner. Great news though. It makes for a lot more flexibility and saves money too. I never wanted to have to buy 2 adapters for 2 different lenses. Especially when the only difference is a few millimeters of steel on the lens mount! Peace!

December 4th, 2006, 12:25 PM	#45
Holly Rognan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Coalville America Posts: 244	I don't think it will work on the XL-H1, from what I have heard.