Wide Angle Adaptor for XH A1?

Travis Breitenbach · January 29th, 2008, 11:08 PM

Ha ha, okay. Rental it is then!

Don Palomaki · January 30th, 2008, 08:16 AM

And it is

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Guaranteed to meet or exceed OEM specifications

what ever that happens to mean in this case <G>.

Travis Breitenbach · January 30th, 2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Palomaki

And it is
what ever that happens to mean in this case <G>.

It probably means it has the right threads, ha.

Cal Bickford · January 30th, 2008, 04:52 PM

Am I right in assuming that using Canon's wide angle adaptor will decrease the depth of field at a given stop compared to using the primary lens?

Colin McDonald · January 30th, 2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal Bickford

Am I right in assuming that using Canon's wide angle adaptor will decrease the depth of field at a given stop compared to using the primary lens?

Surely shome mishtake? The reverse is true or am I misunderstanding the question?

Cal Bickford · January 30th, 2008, 05:47 PM

yes, your right I mistyped I meant "increase" I have the flu and 103 degree fever so I'm somewhat out of it right now... But after thinking about it some more would it really have any affect of the DOF as its just gathering more light to pass through the primary lens as it normally would?

Lloyd Claycomb · January 30th, 2008, 09:59 PM

I've been tempted in the past to get stuff like this, but my better judgment says not to. If it too good to be true...... Although I really would like someone to get one and then tell us if it works... I've already been suckered a couple times, so I'm not volunteering this time...

But anyone else willing to make the plunge for the "good of the community"? :) j/k... kind'a.

Colin McDonald · January 31st, 2008, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal Bickford

yes, your right I mistyped I meant "increase"

Glad you don't work in Air Traffic Control :-)

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I have the flu and 103 degree fever so I'm somewhat out of it right now...

Sorry to hear that :-(

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But after thinking about it some more would it really have any affect of the DOF as its just gathering more light to pass through the primary lens as it normally would?

But the whole point is that the adapter changes the focal length and the laws of optics still apply. The primary lens is now part of a new array - if you change the focal length, you change the DOF.

Do you mean using the same aperture and effective focal length but with the 0.8 WA adapter on? (What would be the point?)

Don Palomaki · January 31st, 2008, 11:39 AM

Might be a low cost way to obtain a "cheap consumer camcorder look" effect on your footage for productions that need it without having to buy a cheap camcorder or use additional rendering time in post

Heck, $40 is less than the price of a good 72mm UV filter.

Jonathan Shaw · January 31st, 2008, 05:36 PM

I would be intrigued to see what a $40 WA actually does. Go on buy it and post a few screen grabs.. or just buy yourself a couple of nice bottles of wine and enjoy!

Jon

Lloyd Claycomb · January 31st, 2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Palomaki

Might be a low cost way to obtain a "cheap consumer camcorder look" effect on your footage for productions that need it without having to buy a cheap camcorder or use additional rendering time in post

Heck, $40 is less than the price of a good 72mm UV filter.

Now THAT'S funny!

Don Palomaki · February 1st, 2008, 07:57 AM

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... just buy yourself a couple of nice bottles of wine and enjoy!

A great suggestion. Wine goggles!!! Lots of things look better after plenty of booze. Buy the adapter and some modest priced wine, drink the wine (plenty of it), and than evaluate the lens results.

Jim Newberry · February 3rd, 2008, 03:10 PM

For a dream sequence it could be perfect. I make my living as a (still) photographer and usually shoot with a $3,000 camera body, but I've had pretty swell results with my $20 Holga as well.

I couldn't get the link to work--my only concern would be buying from an unknown dealer, and getting overcharged or something.

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LOTS of chroma aberration. And that can't be passed off as "stylistic" as hard as you may try.

Why not? In my experience, it's possible to get fantastic results with cheap/toy gear (Holga, Diana, Pixelvision, consumer-grade Super 8, etc.). If the CA was extreme, it might look very cool, if used well.

Chris Green · February 4th, 2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Newberry

For a dream sequence it could be perfect. In my experience, it's possible to get fantastic results with cheap/toy gear (Holga, Diana, Pixelvision, consumer-grade Super 8, etc.). If the CA was extreme, it might look very cool, if used well.

I actualy got one of these cheap things for free when I bought my A1 online. They threw it in. It is very cheap. Designed more for consumer cameras. It only ads an extra 2 - 5 degress of view but it's very warped and fisheyed. But it probably could look cool for a freaky dream or something.

Ivo van Aart · February 5th, 2008, 03:36 PM

Hi everyone,

(considering I have the Xh A1)

Quick questions:

If I want to film with a wide angle lens. Would it be better in your opinion to
-mount a wide angle adapter on your lens or
-buy a DOF adaptor and use a still photography les you happen to have.

Also: is is possible to shoot with the A1 and (let's say) the Letus Economy without a expensive external HD monitor? Just by checking it on your A1 flip-out? If not, what would be the best lcd-screen?
And do you need a followfocus or would a dop be able to do simple focussing with the lens-ring?

Thank you in advance,

Ivo van Aart

January 30th, 2008, 04:52 PM	#304
Cal Bickford Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 157	canon wide angle adaptor and DOF Am I right in assuming that using Canon's wide angle adaptor will decrease the depth of field at a given stop compared to using the primary lens?

January 31st, 2008, 11:39 AM	#309
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	Might be a low cost way to obtain a "cheap consumer camcorder look" effect on your footage for productions that need it without having to buy a cheap camcorder or use additional rendering time in post Heck, $40 is less than the price of a good 72mm UV filter. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

January 31st, 2008, 05:36 PM	#310
Jonathan Shaw Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 552	I would be intrigued to see what a $40 WA actually does. Go on buy it and post a few screen grabs.. or just buy yourself a couple of nice bottles of wine and enjoy! Jon __________________ www.ginclearfilm.com www.facebook.com/ginclearfilm

February 5th, 2008, 03:36 PM	#315
Ivo van Aart Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Breda, Netherlands Posts: 67	Wide angle options Hi everyone, (considering I have the Xh A1) Quick questions: If I want to film with a wide angle lens. Would it be better in your opinion to -mount a wide angle adapter on your lens or -buy a DOF adaptor and use a still photography les you happen to have. Also: is is possible to shoot with the A1 and (let's say) the Letus Economy without a expensive external HD monitor? Just by checking it on your A1 flip-out? If not, what would be the best lcd-screen? And do you need a followfocus or would a dop be able to do simple focussing with the lens-ring? Thank you in advance, Ivo van Aart

January 29th, 2008, 11:08 PM	#301
Travis Breitenbach New Boot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 12	Ha ha, okay. Rental it is then!

January 30th, 2008, 05:47 PM	#306
Cal Bickford Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 157	yes, your right I mistyped I meant "increase" I have the flu and 103 degree fever so I'm somewhat out of it right now... But after thinking about it some more would it really have any affect of the DOF as its just gathering more light to pass through the primary lens as it normally would?

January 30th, 2008, 09:59 PM	#307
Lloyd Claycomb Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 208	I've been tempted in the past to get stuff like this, but my better judgment says not to. If it too good to be true...... Although I really would like someone to get one and then tell us if it works... I've already been suckered a couple times, so I'm not volunteering this time... But anyone else willing to make the plunge for the "good of the community"? :) j/k... kind'a.