Wide Angle Adaptor for XH A1?

Armando Serrano · August 15th, 2007, 09:45 PM

FYI...

I purchased my Canon WD lens for $400 at Samys Camera with the "Educator/Teacher" discount (from $499). You do have to ask for the "Government/Industrial Sales" department...

PS: The purchase was a "no-brainer". BTW, did I mentioned how good that lens looks? ; )

Peter Jefferson · September 12th, 2007, 06:36 PM

Just a couple of questions..

Whats the closest focal point I can get with the A1? With tehDVX and HVX, i can literally be 5cm from the subject, so macro is awesome.. in fact its one of the main reasons i use these cameras..

BUT to the point.. just wondering if anyone is using the adapter with the A1... ?
Its the official Wide Converter WD-H72 wide angle adapter... I remember Chris Hurd put up a post/thread with some still frames taken of a white building.. i cant find that post now.. :(
I was wondeirng if it distorted the image at all? Also, with the adapter attached, what would be the 35mm equivalent in focal width? I know without it, i beleive the A1s widest focal length as about 35mm, but im wondering if there is any lux or resolution loss by using this. As i shot events, im usualy either in tight confined spaces (bedrooms with 3 or 4 subjects.. no its not porn..) other times, i have the cam on a mono pod and hoist it up about 15ft... so a wide lens is always handy..

does anyone have wide shots i can take a look at? Maybe a coparison of DVX/HVX width vs A1 width?? That would be nice...

Peter Jefferson · September 12th, 2007, 06:43 PM

oops forgot to ask... does the adapter mess with the lens hood or do i need to get a mattebox.. any one have a pic of their setup?

David W. Jones · September 12th, 2007, 07:50 PM

Normal lens 35mm equivalent = 32.5mm - 650mm.
The WD-H72 wide angle converter will give you a 26mm.

I can't remember how close you can get for macro work, as it's been a while since I used the stock lens in that capacity.
For macro work I currently mount a Zeiss 60mm S-Planar Macro lens which gives me a 1:1 magnification.

Peter Jefferson · September 12th, 2007, 08:55 PM

thx for that info :)

Eric Weiss · September 12th, 2007, 09:51 PM

Peter, I'm really happy with the Canon WA.
In extreme wide situations, there's a bit of distortion but up close it's great.
I'll just upload some stills from my current timelines, macros and wides, and you can judge.

Eric Weiss · September 12th, 2007, 09:55 PM

different focal lengths with the wide angle. hdv to dv.

Eric Weiss · September 12th, 2007, 09:58 PM

You can get up even closer.. if you dare.
I just leave the WA attached all of the time and use only the supplied hood.

Don Palomaki · September 13th, 2007, 06:38 AM

Eric,
Now you have made me thirsty.
Come on 5 o-clock!

Trish Kerr · September 13th, 2007, 08:05 AM

ok possible dumb question - but judging by the shape of the lens, does it sit tucked almost flush with the A1 hood mount's front end?

And beautiful pics btw

trish

Eric Weiss · September 13th, 2007, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trish Kerr

ok possible dumb question - but judging by the shape of the lens, does it sit tucked almost flush with the A1 hood mount's front end?

And beautiful pics btw

trish

Thanks Trish. Here's some pic's that another user posted of the A1 with the WA attached

http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0195_WA_SideMounted.jpg
http://www.io.com/~smg/xha1/0169_WA_...bstruction.jpg

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=78929]

Loren Simons · September 15th, 2007, 01:54 AM

OhhoOOhh i have a dumb question too! Does it disable the auto foucus? looks liek its blocking the sensor? =D

Paul Joy · September 15th, 2007, 11:07 AM

The I-AF sensor is blocked so you have to switch to normal through the lens focusing.

Paul.

Christopher Neville · September 17th, 2007, 11:10 AM

I could use some advice. I'm considering getting the WD-H72 wide angle lens. I like to use a polarizing filter since I film a lot of waterfalls, but I don't see a way to do this without getting a matte box. I had looked at Cinetastics, but couldn't decide on what might work. I was really wondering if a a 4x4" filter would be big enough to not block the lens if mounted with a filter holder? Does anyone have a recommendation of what they would use?

I have been wondering if it is worth the trade-off to gain the wide-angle at the loss of the polarizer if there is no good solution. I would appreciate any opinions.

Steve Wolla · September 17th, 2007, 12:46 PM

The Canon wide angle would need a 109mm opening for the matte box. I cannot do it now, but see if Century makes a filter holder for that size.

If not, you may have to consider another brand (like Century) of wide angle that has a size that is compatible with a Century or other filter holder. They are about $125, I believe.

August 15th, 2007, 09:45 PM	#256
Armando Serrano Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 30	Educator/Teacher's Discounts... FYI... I purchased my Canon WD lens for $400 at Samys Camera with the "Educator/Teacher" discount (from $499). You do have to ask for the "Government/Industrial Sales" department... PS: The purchase was a "no-brainer". BTW, did I mentioned how good that lens looks? ; )

September 12th, 2007, 06:36 PM	#257
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	Wide Converter WD-H72 Matte box or lens hood? Just a couple of questions.. Whats the closest focal point I can get with the A1? With tehDVX and HVX, i can literally be 5cm from the subject, so macro is awesome.. in fact its one of the main reasons i use these cameras.. BUT to the point.. just wondering if anyone is using the adapter with the A1... ? Its the official Wide Converter WD-H72 wide angle adapter... I remember Chris Hurd put up a post/thread with some still frames taken of a white building.. i cant find that post now.. :( I was wondeirng if it distorted the image at all? Also, with the adapter attached, what would be the 35mm equivalent in focal width? I know without it, i beleive the A1s widest focal length as about 35mm, but im wondering if there is any lux or resolution loss by using this. As i shot events, im usualy either in tight confined spaces (bedrooms with 3 or 4 subjects.. no its not porn..) other times, i have the cam on a mono pod and hoist it up about 15ft... so a wide lens is always handy.. does anyone have wide shots i can take a look at? Maybe a coparison of DVX/HVX width vs A1 width?? That would be nice...

September 12th, 2007, 09:55 PM	#262
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	With Canon WA different focal lengths with the wide angle. hdv to dv. Attached Thumbnails

September 12th, 2007, 09:58 PM	#263
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	"Macros" with Canon WA attached. You can get up even closer.. if you dare. I just leave the WA attached all of the time and use only the supplied hood. Attached Thumbnails

September 13th, 2007, 06:38 AM	#264
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,488	Eric, Now you have made me thirsty. Come on 5 o-clock! __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

September 12th, 2007, 06:43 PM	#258
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	oops forgot to ask... does the adapter mess with the lens hood or do i need to get a mattebox.. any one have a pic of their setup?

September 12th, 2007, 07:50 PM	#259
David W. Jones Trustee Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Little Rock Posts: 1,383	Normal lens 35mm equivalent = 32.5mm - 650mm. The WD-H72 wide angle converter will give you a 26mm. I can't remember how close you can get for macro work, as it's been a while since I used the stock lens in that capacity. For macro work I currently mount a Zeiss 60mm S-Planar Macro lens which gives me a 1:1 magnification.

September 12th, 2007, 08:55 PM	#260
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	thx for that info :)

September 12th, 2007, 09:51 PM	#261
Eric Weiss Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philly,PA Posts: 360	Peter, I'm really happy with the Canon WA. In extreme wide situations, there's a bit of distortion but up close it's great. I'll just upload some stills from my current timelines, macros and wides, and you can judge.

September 13th, 2007, 08:05 AM	#265
Trish Kerr Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 294	ok possible dumb question - but judging by the shape of the lens, does it sit tucked almost flush with the A1 hood mount's front end? And beautiful pics btw trish

September 15th, 2007, 01:54 AM	#267
Loren Simons Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 288	OhhoOOhh i have a dumb question too! Does it disable the auto foucus? looks liek its blocking the sensor? =D __________________ Loren Simons

September 15th, 2007, 11:07 AM	#268
Paul Joy Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 627	The I-AF sensor is blocked so you have to switch to normal through the lens focusing. Paul. __________________ Blog: www.pauljoy.com Company: www.videotrader.co.uk

September 17th, 2007, 11:10 AM	#269
Christopher Neville Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rock Hill, S.C. Posts: 57	Pondering the WD-H72 Wide Angle I could use some advice. I'm considering getting the WD-H72 wide angle lens. I like to use a polarizing filter since I film a lot of waterfalls, but I don't see a way to do this without getting a matte box. I had looked at Cinetastics, but couldn't decide on what might work. I was really wondering if a a 4x4" filter would be big enough to not block the lens if mounted with a filter holder? Does anyone have a recommendation of what they would use? I have been wondering if it is worth the trade-off to gain the wide-angle at the loss of the polarizer if there is no good solution. I would appreciate any opinions.

September 17th, 2007, 12:46 PM	#270
Steve Wolla Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 477	The Canon wide angle would need a 109mm opening for the matte box. I cannot do it now, but see if Century makes a filter holder for that size. If not, you may have to consider another brand (like Century) of wide angle that has a size that is compatible with a Century or other filter holder. They are about $125, I believe.